Feminism

@SViswan (12072)
India
April 6, 2010 9:31pm CST
What does feminism mean to you? Does it mean women are superior to men? Personally, I would prefer individuality. No, equality of the sexes for me, thank you. I am who I am..the way I am. I might have a few of the 'so-called' masculine qualities and a few of the womenly traits. So what? That's what makes me who I am! I've always felt this way...even as I was growing up...and everyone was all for women's liberation and all that. But today, I was reading this article in the following link and it again got me thinking. http://www.newsweek.com/id/235300?obref=obinsite
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• United States
7 Apr 10
Thanks for the link. A great article! Her parents may have had a better time of it with me as their daughter. I hated frilly dresses.I thought trucks were cool. But how I see feminists would break their hearts. I grew up seeing men being the ' stupid husbands ' in commericals and on t.. shows and orthodox feminists dictating to women who was and wasn't a true feminists. I didn't think it was fair and I became a female male chauvinist.In the gender war , I on the men's side. In other words I think in some things men are better and in others women. I never saw the sexes as equal. But they should have the right and they do these days , to do anything they want to do.So if she wants to drive the truck while her husband stays home with the kids , it fine with me. I just don't think the Sexes are the same or meant to be the same. So the word feminist means women Over men,not equal.
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@kalav56 (11503)
• India
7 Apr 10
Very fair response sarahruthbeth.
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@dpk262006 (56115)
• Delhi, India
7 Apr 10
An excellent response.
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@jrocas05 (114)
• Philippines
7 Apr 10
fair enough.
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@dpk262006 (56115)
• Delhi, India
7 Apr 10
Hi SV! It is true that women in some respect are superior to men.They can bear a child, on the other hand a man cannot. They have better emotional quotient than men and they could be more tolerant than men. I think we all will have some feminine and masculine qualities/traits in us, however, their percentage may vary.
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
17 Apr 10
More than either one being superior than the other, Deepak, I feel that they need to be equal to be themselves. There are certain things that men do better than women do. Respect that..give each one their due and move forward. That's how I feel.
@drannhh (15064)
• United States
7 Apr 10
Equal does not mean the same as. But there are feminists and feminazis, and I am not one of the latter. Who I am and how I am is equal. If anyone doesn't like it, that is too bad. But that said, that does not mean that I cannot give in a bit when the guy has a need to feel right as long as he is willing to give in from his end part of the time, too. Nobody is so perfect that they never step on the other person's toes, but stomping is another thing. Everyone has a little of each gender hardwired into their brain. In my view there isn't anything better or smarter or stronger or better able to "rule" about one gender over the other. We are equal. Both should have equal rights under the law and be treated with respect and nonviolence in the home. All the word feminism means in the English language is "the belief that women are entitled to equal protection under the law." So I think EVERYONE should be a feminist.
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@kalav56 (11503)
• India
7 Apr 10
Actually, our law gives greater protection to women drannh![from court decrees I am saying this ].If it is safety of women then this is another question .
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@drannhh (15064)
• United States
7 Apr 10
That depends entirely on what you mean by protection and what you mean by safety, but when we speak of equality we must consider all aspects of human endeavor. The right to have equal education, equal work, equal pay, equal enforcement of the laws that exist but are not uniformly enforced. Here in the US the law is often unfair to men and to women, but our laws give more power to men in the areas that matter most to me. Where the men suffer is in placement of children after a couple breaks up, because the prejudice is that women are the only ones capable of raising children and that is clearly not true. But so many men run off and leave their women with small children and no way to support them. The deliquency rate on child support payment is astronomical. Until recently there was almost no enforcement. I do not call that protection when the courts force the women to stay at home and raise children and the man is free to work, but keeps the money. It takes two to make children and two to raise them.
@kalav56 (11503)
• India
7 Apr 10
I did not think in these lines drannh! was talking about the physical safety of women .If men are allowed to have a jolly life after fathering the child and allowing the woman to bear the responsibility all by herself it is defintiely to be condemned.
@JJ4Ever (4696)
• United States
9 Apr 10
This is a very interesting article. I would agree with you that feminism to me would mean the characteristics that make up a person, females in particular. It's about being whatever person you were meant to be; being who you are comfortable being. The Wikipedia definition for feminism is "a political, cultural, and economic movement aimed at establishing equal rights and legal protection for women." You learn something new everyday! I guess I didn't realize this was an actual movement rather than a term to describe a certain group of people that fits under its characteristics. Thanks for sharing the article!
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
17 Apr 10
I don't blame you for thinking that the term was used to describe a certain group of people...that's the general notion and the main aim of feminism is greatly misunderstood because of some women who are trying to be superior to men rather than trying to fight for equal rights.
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@JJ4Ever (4696)
• United States
19 Apr 10
It's amazing how easily we can stereotype! I've learned so much from this discussion already. I definitely agree that women should have equal rights as men, but at the same time, that doesn't mean women are better than men in any way. (We might be better than them at some things, but I sure don't want to go lifting more than I can handle - we'll leave that to them...among other things, of course. LOL!)
@Ramsesxlll (1436)
• Finland
7 Apr 10
There are many types of feminists, but I can surely tell of only 3. The first type of feminists are the women who think that they are superior to men, and that they have been overrun and slaved by men all this time, and that it is their time to revenge. That just so pisses me off when someone is like that. I understand that men have treated women badly, but there have been good men too. Women haven't been always just nice to men and all, they have too been as bad. The second type of feminists are the women who want only equality, but who still secretly think inside their heads, that they are SOOO much better than what men are. The third type of feminists are the men who want equality to both men and women. Women always secretly think that they are superior to men, and they always show it... These are only the kind of feminists that I know of
@SViswan (12072)
• India
8 Apr 10
lol...I'm a woman and I've never (secretly or otherwise) thought I am better than a man...and honestly I don't even care about who is better than who. But I feel I need to be given an equal status in society. If a man can choose his profession, so should a woman....if a man can choose when to have a child, so can a woman....that kind of equality. If I can wash the dishes better than my husband (or I like to do it), I'm not one to avoid doing it in the name of feminism to prove something. But then if I wish to have a drink, I wouldn't like someone telling me that I shouldn't be drinking because I am a woman! And you are right...there are men and women who have been bad to the opposite gender...and yes, I've come across many women who take advantage of their husbands or even treat them badly AND threaten to go to court and fight it out because the law favours the woman!! Now, I really can't stand women like that!!
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@balasri (26554)
• India
13 Apr 10
Both the sexes can never be equal as one tends to be better than the other in many spheres.Feminism to me is getting recognized and appreciated for the best in females. If a person is good he sure is good regardless of the physicality.
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
17 Apr 10
Well, equal does not mean being the same (in this case). It just means 'equal rights'...as in ...the right to be oneself..irrespective of whether they are male or female. Not that men or women can be controlled by the other gender or by society's stereotypes(gender) .
@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
9 Apr 10
Hi Sv....For me feminism means upholding the dignity and self respect of women ,and nothing more.....And about equality between sexes ,I dont know how its possible when there is so much biological differences and expectations from them..... But this does not mean that when the parents have a son and daughter,they should discriminate between their children ,but give them equal opportunities for their over all development and growth. And in marriage,more and more couples are striving to establish their so called "equal rights",be it in the work place or in the domestic front.....with the result that there is so much of domestic discord ,dissatisfaction,and heart breaks,and very often the children have to bear the brunt of the after math.......So I hope people will stop reaching out for the abstract things in life, and search within themselves for what can make them happy.....and I am sure the world will be a much better place to live in.....
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
9 Apr 10
If I'm not mistaken, the term 'equality' stands for equal rights and not to mean that men and women are equal and each can do everything that the other can do. It is similar to the line where you said there should not be a discrimination between a son and a daughter and both need to get equal opportunities. When girls and boys are raised in such a family which gives them equal status, they naturally grow up to be individuals who expect equal status from their souse. I don't think that it is wrong. Expecting civility from a spouse and the freedom to choose and express opinions should not be wrong just because the person doing it happens to be the wife. The domestic and work place discords arise because the status of the women is lowered and they are expected to be the followers and not the leaders or partners.
@shivhae (51)
• Netherlands
7 Apr 10
i find that both sexes are equal, ofc some things a men can do better then a woman like lifting heavy objects but that doesnt mean that there are woman who cannot do that eighter. If it comes down on jobs i think woman and men should be equal sadly enough a lot of companies still think the old fashioned way that woman dont belong in some certain branch of business but i think thats rubbish. Everybody should be capable of learning the same things
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
17 Apr 10
That's exactly how I think and feel.
@kalav56 (11503)
• India
7 Apr 10
I am also like you SV. I believe in individuality and personal space.I believe in peaceful coexistence and not "who is superior?" " If I help the child bathe once you do it the next time" "If I put the frock on her head then you pull it down"- I am not exaggerating-I have heard a similar statement from an Engineer girl.It is so silly.I have a number of masculine qualities and I am also capable of multitasking and lateral thinking as typical of women.I also have a good sensitivity to othe r people's emotions.We have our plus points ; we have our minus points. So do the men. In all this fight for equality and focus on this so called "feminism" sometimes rational thinking is compromised and tolerance only decreases .
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
17 Apr 10
I understand what you are saying...because I've heard women speak like that too...not professionals even...stay at home moms too. I'm not that way. But I do expect both partners to pull their weight in the home and do whatever is possible.
@Sillychick (3279)
• United States
7 Apr 10
I believe that women and men should have equal rights as far as being able to do the same things- vote, join military, hold public office, etc- and earn equal pay for equal work. I also believe that men and women all deserve respect. At the same time, I believe that women and men are not equal in every way. They are different, there is no denying that. For example, most women need to wear bras, while most men don't. I don't see anything wrong with that. One is not better than the other, they are just different. That is why I do not believe in feminism as it was back in the 70's and 80's. At that time it seemed that feminists were saying that it was wrong to be feminine, and that women should try to be more like men. I disagree. I am proud of being a woman and enjoy my feminine side. I don't think it makes me weak because I like to wear heels or make up or because I sometimes need help from a man. Most men need help from women sometimes, too.
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@SViswan (12072)
• India
8 Apr 10
Very well said..I couldn't have put it better myself!
@replyashu (747)
• India
7 Apr 10
yes it does mean that but both sexes are equal anyway
@SViswan (12072)
• India
7 Apr 10
I'm not sure if I'd say they are equal. Even as a generalization, there are some things men do better than women and some things which women are better at. Of course, there are a few men and women who have broken the stereotype but they are more an exception than the rule. And I choose to think that it is because of their individuality and not because of their gender.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
3 May 10
I have my woman side of course but also a male side that I can do most of what they do also thats why I became a welder!