God's Wrath?

WEll with ony 14% of people that wanted God out of the way the Government decided it was political corrrect to take God out and that makes me so mad for we had servived 200 years here with God on our building in our schools on our money!

I don't think God is responsible for the Gulf oil spill--it is the result of a company that ignored safety considerations and allowed a well to operate even though a vital safety factor had been compromised. While the spill is the result of greed (which is one of the seven deadly sins).

heather, your link wouldnt work for me but I agree, we dont seem to want Him anywhere, but still blame Him. We dont want to "offend" other religions, so in the mean time we bow to them, and forsake our own savior. No, I dont think that makes Him very happy.

My thoughts are that folks shouldn't cherry pick Revelations. The same thing has been suggested when atomic bombs were dropped Hiroshima and Nagasaki but other parts off Revelations had not come to pass then...or now. For instance: "Revelation 16:2 So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth; and it became a loathsome and malignant sore on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image." Has the first angel been asleep at the switch...and where is that pesky mark of the beast?

My thoughts, Whiteheather, are essentially your thoughts. Thank you for articulating them so cogently. But, it's God's thoughts that are vital to life, to liberty, and to blessing. Above all, God IS love and not just some "meany", and when we dare to remove him as "Alpha and Omega", we also remove love and all of its blessings and protections. If I were He, (hypothetically, of course, because it's way above my "pay grade", not to mention ability, nor even desire)I would have regurgitated upon the world years ago. But, because He, Alone, embodies all love, longsuffering, and gentleness, He has endured the filth and and "ungodliness" of all of us in His wondrous magnanimity, grace, and dignity. All that is and all that we have is His Creation. And look how shamelessly we have dealt with and destroyed His Creation. So, it's no surprise that we are looking at the results of our own handiwork. While I am no Bible scholar and am kind of squeamish when it comes to Revelation, I know for sure that when we persist in sin, wrongdoing, and reviling of our Creator and Provider of all things good and wonderful, He eventually removes His Hand of Blessing, and leaves us to reap the consequences of our own terrible choices in misusing the free will and liberty He gave us. Too many of us chose our own "Nebuchadnezzar" and his tyranny, while "thumbing our collective nose" at God and His liberty. So, we have indeed reaped the "whirlwind" and are swimming in the cesspool of OUR OWN creation. Regarding your specific references to Revelation, I'd say your assessment is quite accurate. We have allowed ourselves to become so lost and deceived by worshipping the gods of self, secularism, materialism, and intellectualism, and by pandering to the ambition, greed, and powermongering of the "humans" we make "idols". And, now, these "idols" will turn this particular happening (as well as all things that suit their need and greed) into a "political machination", since Nebuchadnezzar obviously does not care if America is destroyed, but, rather gloats and arrogantly glories in same, and will continue to incite those hapless and foolish among us into a frenzy (as he did in 2008) of blame against his current enemies. I do not know if the advice of II Chronicles( "... will humble themselves and pray,...turn from their wicked ways...,then I will heal their land..") will either be followed, borne out, or serve to heal our land, but I do know that we were warned ages ago in Scripture that "your complacency will kill you", and the recorded history of the beginning and ending of all great civilizations has borne this out. Yet, through it all, our God of awe and wonder and boundless love, affirms the victory of those who seek righteousness and persist to the end, through the unimaginable and glorious sacrifice of His Precious Son, so that we, undeserving in our own right, may have reconciliation with our incredible Creator and Provider. And, through it all, we must "count it all joy" and wait for the words "well done, good and faithful servant." For our Creator is a God of covenant, and the embodiment of love, promise, hope, truth and justice, and is truly a God who keeps His Word.

I think he thinks we should be taking much better care of his planet and paying much less attention to what we think we need.

I always proceed with caution - if at all - when it comes to discussions linking religion and politics. I figure if you think the wrath of God is bad, wait until you feel the wrath of an angered myLotter...lol! Seriously, whenever someone tries to "blame" some horrible thing that's happened, whether it be a natural disaster, an horrible accident like this oil "spill" or a terrorist attack such as 9/11, on God, I kind of cringe. I'm NOT a religious scholar by any means but the God I grew up worshiping and learning about wouldn't punish so many innocent people, not to mention helpless animals or the environment, over what some have done wrong in His eyes. I'm sorry, and I don't intend any offense towards those who disagree, but I personally just don't buy it. You wrote, "There was a time when our political leaders, judges, teachers, business owners, etc, came to God first with the issues and problems of the day instead of last." That invokes claims of, "God told me to run" a la George W. Bush and Sarah Palin! I'd like to add that I disagree with those who claim without religious faith there are no moral values; I don't think one has to be of a particular religion or in fact any religion to be a good person and live a good life. I've known and do know many GOOD non-religious people as well as many BAD religious ones! Annie

I think the decision to believe or not believe in God has been taken out of the government and put into the hearts of the individuals. There are so many who have very differing beliefs that who is to say what is the right belief. I don't think that having "God" on our coins or not is the problem at all. It is what is in an individual's heart that matters the most.

I don't buy that for a second. Look at our history as a country, even in times when this country did put GOD ahead of other things we still had problems. Look at all of the wars, the natural disasters, the Great Depression. Look at the other countries that FORCE you to practice religion, and see if they are blessed by GOD more than we are. My personally opinion on the matter is if YOU do the right things, than you will be OK. It doesn't matter how much you go to church, if you are a saint on Sunday, and a sinner for the rest of the week does that make you better than someone who is a saint all week? You can call this what you will, but it is meant to be a wake up call to the world that what we are doing when it comes to drilling needs to be done better, or find another way. Maybe this was GOD, maybe not, but someone wasn't doing the right things, and maybe they will wake up.

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/natural-disasters-and-harming-israel/ http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7076431.ece http://feww.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/01/national/main6538825.shtml http://en.rian.ru/world/20100601/159241736.html Considering how much God has blessed us, I don't doubt for one minute it saddens Him to have us turn our backs on Him. What I think is more interesting though, is what happens when we don't treat Israel (our only friend in the middle east) well.

I do think God is saddened by our society. He wants more from us than political mumbo jumbo and the world HE created is going to suffer for our own lack of love for HIM. I believe God's wrath will again be shown to us and how far God goes is going to be a shock to all of us. Anytime you pull away from the base of your own being you are going to pay with your life, your family and will be put into either financial or personal catastrophe or both. I am sad myself for our people who are not looking at he basics of life. God. I do think it's never too late to return to God's ways and pray we as Christians as well as citizens of the US for our own personal lives to yearn again for the everlasting love of God. The world as we know it will cease to exist if we continue this ignorance of God.

Why do the name of god always be included to the happenings here on earth. i mean, everything that had happened on earth are cause by man's choices.Life is full of choices and every choices has its own consequences. let us not blame god for these because he has nothing to do with this. it all boils down to choices.

God never deserved a place in any country, and I can only hope that soon the day will come when the separation of church and state is a reality and not a fantasy. Are you aware of the oil spills and leaks, much more traumatic than what is occurring in the Gulf, that have taken place in Nigeria over the last decade or so? Here is a link for more information: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell What has occurred in the Gulf is a depressingly regular incident that happens due to greed and a lack of oversight and regulation. It is not unique. It was caused by humans, and humans will suffer the consequences. It was the heartless, money-grubbing oil companies, oversight officers, and politicians who allowed this to happen.