Republicans supporting building products in America. REALLY????

United States
November 10, 2010 11:04am CST
For the last ten plus years republicans have not only told the country that we are now a service country, but pushed tax laws to actually pay employers to move jobs over seas. Now the only thing we hear from republicans is that we need to make more products here in the US. Most of the country knew this, and told republicans and the Bush administration this. So, do you feel that the republicans are now only getting this because the voters are outraged at the lack of jobs. Or, do you actually feel that republicans are going to support the average working Joe, instead of his boss?
4 responses
@Taskr36 (13924)
• United States
10 Nov 10
I'll ignore your lack of a source for any of those claims for now and focus on reality. Democrats have controlled BOTH HOUSES since 2006. They've had a supermajority and the presidency since Obama got elected. If only republicans are moving jobs overseas, why haven't the democrats done $hit to bring them back? Why didn't they change those tax laws to bring jobs into our country instead of spending over a trillion dollars to bribe various businesses and unions without creating any significant number of jobs?
• United States
11 Nov 10
Taskr, we have been exporting jobs since the 1980's, but it really took off actually in the 1990's under Clinton and Republicans. By the time Obama got into office we had lost so many jobs that closing that tax lope hole wouldn't do anything. I can't believe that the republicans on here are actually trying to say that their party hasn't exported jobs!!! Your former leader GWB was proud of it, and didn't hide the fact one bit. He felt it was way to important to break the unions that have Americans working. That sure worked good for the country didn't republicans?
@Taskr36 (13924)
• United States
11 Nov 10
You're right, the tax laws that benefit shipping jobs overseas happened in the 80's. So why are you blaming Republicans when the Democrats haven't done jack to change those tax laws in the last 30 years? "I can't believe that the republicans on here are actually trying to say that their party hasn't exported jobs!" I can't believe democrats are still pissing and moaning over it when they've done absolutely NOTHING to fix the problem. Ok, I CAN believe it because I know they WANT things to complain about. It's what they're good at. "Your former leader GWB" How exactly is he MY former leader? He's no more "mine" than he is "yours".
• United States
11 Nov 10
Taskr, what are you going to do to bring these jobs back? Wal-Mart is already forcing manufactures to produce products in factories that Wal-Mart owns in China. What are you going to do to get these jobs back? I NEVER voted for that idiot, and I am NOT republican. How about you?
• United States
10 Nov 10
I feel that the new batch of conservatives that were elected to the House are going to roll back what their predecessors did in order to show the American people that the old way didn't work. They will have to fight the Dems who just want more money for useless programs so it won't be an overnight sensation. I haven't seen made in the U.S.A. for a long time, we need something to be proud of not disgusted with like years before.
• United States
11 Nov 10
I hope you are right, because republicans have been trying to get the "made in the US" labels made in China for decades now. Democrats actually support the working class Americans, so if republicans want to lend a hand as well, I am sure that the working class would be more than happy to have more than just one party caring about them. People in my area of the country have been talking about this for years, and have been ignored by the elitist in Washington, and on Wall Street. Funny how some people who you wouldn't consider "smart", can see something that the brightest minds in the country can't.
• United States
11 Nov 10
Dems only support the working class so they can tax the hell out of them while the GOP supports big business that gives people jobs. The main difference is that if the Dems ever wised up to more workers means more money they would shut the hell up and get out of the way of big business so they could have what they wanted, oh wait, they already did that and the American people didn't like being taxed so much. Yes, there have been elitists in Washington, there are Dem elitists too you know.
• United States
11 Nov 10
Git, if Democrats would have gone with what ever big business wanted we wouldn't have ANY manufacturing in this country, and we would ALL work at Wal-Mart. Big businesses destroy small businesses which is the heart of this country. The fact is that small businesses employ more people than big businesses. If we would have went along with them, they would have destroyed ALL small businesses to create a monopoly. Does that sound good to you?
• United States
11 Nov 10
If you look back at the last republican presidential primary debate you will see it. One of questions asked was what would be something Americans could do to REALLY improve our economy.....they ALL said "buy american". Want American jobs? Then create need in the market for it. It is supply and demand. If we demand American made products then supplies will start doing it. But we don't. We the consumer want cheap products. We don't care what country they come from as long as the price is low. So we support others coutries economies instead of our own. Personally I have been hearing "buy american" most of my life.I remember the commericals when I was a kid. Politicans have tried to tell us we needed to do it (on both sides) but we don't listen. Politicans can't make us buy american. So therefore they can't do much about it. Sure they can offer tax incentives to companies to create manufactoring jobs here....but if people don't want American goods then the companies won't create jobs here. Do I think Republicans care about American jobs? Yes. But so do the Democrats. The problem they have is both sides are trying to encourage manufactoring jobs here in this country without the help of the American poeple. That really limits what they can do.
• United States
11 Nov 10
Lil, you also have to look at what our government is willing do to create jobs. Countries like China and India subsidize their manufacturing, and the health care for their employees. GM and GE pay over a BILLION dollars a year in health care, do you think they could lower their cost if they didn't have to do that? China deflated it's currency so they could increase trade. You are 100% correct that the American people need to support American made products in order for us to create jobs. It might cost them more money, but it will make them more in the long run because they would have better jobs. But, Wal-Mart will do everything in it's power to stop this. They have invested BILLIONS in China, and they are making a ton of money there. It will be very hard to go after them when they can decide what many Americans buy. It would be very interesting to see what will happen.
@Taskr36 (13924)
• United States
11 Nov 10
The problem is that people in large numbers will only buy American when Americans make something worth buying. I'd love to be driving an American car, there's just one problem, American cars stink. They are unreliable, have poor resale value, and a bad reputation. Even now I'd rather stick with my 12 year old Mazda Protege than take a Chevy "anything". Last time my wife and I went to Florida we were stuck with a Chevy Cobalt as a rental car. It was so bad it was actually scary. My wife couldn't get the thing to exceed 70 mph on the highway. I was able to get it to 78, but that's only because I have experience with crappy cars having owned a Ford Tempo back in the 90's. A lot of people don't realize that Japan used to be known for putting out horrible products. Made in America used to mean quality and Made in Japan used to mean crap. Somewhere along the way those tags switched. Japan made superior products and people were willing to shell out the cash for them. Sony and Samsung, for example, aren't popular because they are cheaper than American brands. They're actually more expensive. They just have a higher quality that makes people want their products.
• United States
11 Nov 10
Taskr, I hate to tell you this, but your Mazda Protege is actually made with FORD parts!!! Ford has owned 33% of Mazda for years, and Ford supplies them with the vast majority of their parts. I currently am driving a Ford F150 that has over 160,000 miles on it, and has no problems at all. Actually Sony owns a majority share in Samsung, and Samsung produces parts for Sony. Using electronics isn't the best example of what you are trying to say. The Sylvania tube company made the best tubes for TV's in the word, the problem wasn't that they were to expensive, it was because they were TO good. TV's lasted to long, and TV manufactures weren't happy about that, so made them cheaper so they could sell more.
@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
10 Nov 10
Here is just one issue that will start a civil war with in the GOP for the next couple of years. On one side there is the populist of the Tea partiers and on the other side there is free traders of the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Round Table. Yes the rhetoric is bring back those manufacturing jobs yet the money want those jobs to stay over seas. Now all be it the Tea partiers they are naive enough to figure out how to actually get those jobs back so they will keep believing what the CofC and the Roundtable money paid message tells them.
• United States
11 Nov 10
The Tea Party will also need all of the money that the Chamber has to win elections. And, we all know that money runs Washington, no matter what the Tea Party people might think. Do you really think they would have won elections without the billions that the special interest spent on this election? This was the most expensive election EVER, and the Chamber alone spent $200 million (of which, we have no idea where that money came from). The Tea Party is either going to have to find a way to fund itself, or just become a faction of the republican party.