So Much About Human Rights

Singapore
September 4, 2011 7:12am CST
No offense people. I just couldn't believe what I am reading but even if this is some kind of tabloid I don't think it is going to go down well with parents here. A particular family is about to have their four of their seven children, three daughters, aged 11, seven and one, and five-year-old son, taken away where they will either be ‘fostered without contact’ or adopted. Social workers with a socialist mind? First of all, the children are relatively young and just because they love to eat and grow with relative proportion, does not mean that their parents are inefficient, inadequate, unloving or most of all, unfit. I have seen parents neglecting children or children on the other hand going up against their parents - yet, I do not see these "responsible" social workers or authorities stepping up on their end. This is just too much over something out of the ordinary - making mountains out of mole hills. Wasting tax payers money to raise public bullies that's what I will call and say! What is it with these social workers and the authorities? So much, for human rights! Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033486/Your-children-fat-again.html
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Sep 11
I did read the article and it seemed as though the Social workers had intended to take away the children even if the parents had obeyed and I am sure they the parents did what they thought was right. The trouble is that there should have been a dietician who should have shown the parents how to make delicious and healthy meals considering their income. I have watched many health programs where a dietician tries to get a family to eat healthier and she shows them recipes that they can use and encourages the wife to try them out. But obviously in this case, this did not happen. Sl then parents who had no idea of what was healthy - like a salad with that spaghetti boulenaise, did not have a chance.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 Sep 11
I watched on the telly a program that said that since the end of World WAr II there have been additives added and more processed food and they are now cheaper. And with poor people and low class people they do not make enough to get good food and they work so hard that they cannot start gardens. It wold have been best that a dietician could have helped them. Really they are being discriminated because of their social class and because they live in counsel housing.
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• Singapore
6 Sep 11
suspenseful, Let me add that we add additives into our dishes, too i.e. MSG(mono sodium glutamate) or chicken stock in our cooking.
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• Singapore
5 Sep 11
suspenseful, My exact sentiments here. I felt that these people are being unreasonable and could not help feeling disgusted with their action. In this age of junk food and fizzy drinks, obese children is very common. Also, even when children are eating normally - there has been quite a number of unexplainable indigestion problems. Yet, many of them had managed to loose their weight when they grow up. I hope the authorities will not take away the children and attend to more legitimate cases.
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@manleyjoe (1597)
• United States
6 Sep 11
skysuccess, hi, You have hit a sore part with me on this, the two worst things in this country are social workers and attorneys. Personally I think they should all be docked money from their paycheck every time they pull some such stunt as this. I worked with convicts as a corrections officer for 35 years and I saw the system deteriorate with each new batch of social workers that came out of school. You know how to tell if a social worker or attorney are lying?
@manleyjoe (1597)
• United States
6 Sep 11
Their lips are moving!
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
4 Sep 11
I really don't understand why this so called Human Rights are trying to make others family life miserable. They should concentrate doing social justice and not to interfere in family matters. They have overshot the boundary of their jobs.It is so inhuman of this group to tear apart a happy family just because they see a little discrepancies in the family's parenting. How dare they touch my family if this so called social workers threatened to take away my kids. I will fight tooth and nail to keep my family intact.
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• Singapore
5 Sep 11
zandi458, I feel that the social workers and the relevant authorities are overdoing and excessive here. The children are so young and I am sure they can overcome their overweight problem with time. To accuse their parents like some child abuser is just way overboard and taking them away from their parents is unthinkable.
• Philippines
4 Sep 11
Hello there, The last I've heard of a weird social workers taking away their childrens was because the couple was accidentally found out to be brothers and sisters, that was in germany. I think it would have been better if they enrolled the kids into a gym class or like that biggest looser contest, they can have training therebu but why take the children away as if they can help them loose weight or something. there's gotta a law suit about this for them to fight for their children.
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@toyota4k (1208)
• Philippines
5 Sep 11
There are good to honest people in the in the welfare sector of the government and this agency and there's no doubt not a few have responded for what they are payed for. But there are times for which the quarters or the dorm isn't full, so they "recruit" even those with less serious cases just so to keep the funds keep coming in and maintain employment
• Singapore
6 Sep 11
toyota4k, I cannot help anticipating your point of view on how their public servants would take up such cases to fulfill their department or section case quotas. If this is true, then shame on them. I can see that this is happening today in the public services is due to the lack of independent internal scrutiny and audits on both the staff and work. They should be checked periodically to ensure such ridiculous miscarriage of duty is being prevented. I do hope that the children will not be taken away and that the relevant superiors would throw the case and staff out of the office.
@toyota4k (1208)
• Philippines
9 Sep 11
You may have seen movies depicting misconduct by social welfare agents, some accounts of which may have actually happened. This might sound irrational but this world has become a breeding place of iniquity and not a few have joined the ranks of the supposed to be trusted "guardians"!!!
@rose1717 (190)
• United States
4 Sep 11
I'm not sure what to think. I didn't read the article yet, but will later. I live in the US and we also have social workers called CPS (Child Protective Services), that do the same when they feel children are in danger. However, I feel that the system isn't a good one. Children that need pulled out of a bad situation sometimes are over looked, and a few cases of children who were pulled out that shouldn't have been. They system is flawed. When my best friend was a child, I think those kids should have been pulled out of the family situation they were in. The sit. was let known but nothing was ever done about it.
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• Singapore
5 Sep 11
rose1717, Basically, I do not have anything against social workers or child protective services when there are problematic families around. However, the authorities are overstepping and doing what they should not do and I am sure they have overlooked other much needed cases. I really hope that the children will not be taken away from their parents here.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
5 Sep 11
Personally I would not consider having bigger children anything to worry about unless the parents are feeding them all the wrong types of foods, and/or fixing them huge meals and then forcing them to eat everything. In reality is there not other things to worry about when it comes to children than this? Yes, there are a lot of overweight kids these days, but doing something like this seems a little out of the unordinary for sure.
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• Singapore
6 Sep 11
KrauseHome, My exact sentiments. I could not help feeling disgusted with these social workers and the relevant authorities who are involved with the case. It is really way overboard and I am very sure there are other overweight children elsewhere. I hope that the children will not be taken away.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
6 Sep 11
I just read the entire article. It is more than just socialist, it is draconian. I couldn't believe this was happening in Britain. What a terrible thing,to take away ones children because they are overweight. If they followed that policy in Australia, over half the population of children would be taken away, never again to be seen by their parents. Even if the children had to be fostered for genuine reasons, they should have been allowed to regularly ssee their parents, as is the case here. It is well acknowedged and understood, that children fair far better with their natural parents, and if that can't happen, they need regular positive contact with their parents. What sort of training have these social workers have? How did they think they were helping the family by watching them eat and taking notes? I just can't believe this is happening in a modern society. Sure, the parents need to take action to reduce their childrens weight, and it may be that they were neglectful in not taking them to a dietician. But you dont remove children from their families for that reason? What happened to the lets support families theory?
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• Singapore
7 Sep 11
jennybianca, When I first read this, I could not believe that it was real until the second time. I feel the social workers were really out of line and excessive. Also, they (social workers) does not have a clear understanding about chubby children and while they wasted their time here, I am sure somewhere else children are suffering in abuses.
@Galena (9110)
5 Sep 11
well first of all, this is the daily mail. it's not known for reasonable and unbiased journalism. from the photo, yes, they are a bit chubby, but certainly not to an extraordinary extent. nothing you woudln't expect to see on an average day. the article mentions what THEIR lawyer calls "low grade parenting problems" which indicates that there is more to this case than just the weight of the children. it goes on to mention that the youngest child wasn't sufficiently supervised, and also that the child tries to put "dangerous objects" in her mouth. the parents say she hasn't succeeded, but combined with not being sufficiently supervised, it might be just a matter of time until she does succeed. I think that there's more to this story than meets the eye. I've seen fatter children left undisturbed in their family units. everything about this article suggests that there are more issues involved than just the childrens weight. the funny thing is, I bet if you search the daily mail site for articles about childhood obesity, it will include calls for the children to be removed from parents that persist in feeding them badly. without a doubt from the readers comments and probably in the articles themselves. but when it looks like it might happen, they write an article like this. I do beleive that it's not just the childrens weight that is a concern to social services.
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• Singapore
6 Sep 11
P.S. The statement should read: "....the part of the world where they regard human rights so highly and yet, would undermine the 5 and 11 year old children's rights to their loving (struggling) parents." Sorry for the typo error, here.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
7 Sep 11
I think that the act of social workers taking children away from their parents is really something that is quite out of line. For example, last night a friend of mine was telling me about one of her friend's daughter who is blind and as a result has a lot of sensory issues with her other senses. She almost had her daughter taken away from her because she was not putting on weight the way that she should have. I think that is bull, but it does happen all the time anyway.
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