Occupy Wall Street is sitting on $450,000, yet not 1 penny for their victims

@Taskr36 (13925)
United States
November 25, 2011 2:34pm CST
We all know about the destruction, violence and vandalism committed by the OWS mobs. It's no secret that they've broken windows at, and vandalized banks, fast food restaurants, local businesses, and grocery stores. A few food cart vendors in California were attacked and had their carts splattered with blood and urine by protesters when they told them they could no longer give out free food. I've seen supporters here on mylot claim that the people doing that were "plants and provocateurs". One even claimed that it was undercover police doing all this. Obviously there has been no evidence of this, but they don't care. So if OWS is against this violence, if they do NOT support vandalism and destruction of private property, why haven't they done anything about it? Why don't they put their money where their mouth is? Why is it that private charities are the ones raising money to help those hurt by OWS, yet OWS is just milking donations and sitting on $450,000? If they opposed the destruction of people they claim are NOT part of their group, shouldn't they spend that money showing that they oppose those actions?
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• United States
30 Nov 11
I'm very curious to know the source you are citing. What leaders have the money? Also, one of the comments on this thread asks if the OWS protesters realize that big business is responsible for their modern conveniences, and technology. To that I say, I don't think they are against big business in general. They are against corruption in big business. They are against, for instance, using bailouts to pay millionaires millions of dollars in bonuses. Money meant to save the businesses, helped to make the rich richer. Corruption, unethical loopholes, those things need to go. I'm pretty sure nobody wants iphones to be banned.
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
30 Nov 11
Here's a source, but there are plenty more if you don't like this one. http://online.wsj.com/article/AP59c14ea69e2046e6bc89f2a0aa88a430.html From what I've seen they are firmly against business, big and small, and capitalism in general. Why else would they break windows at and vandalize small businesses? Why would they attack a Whole Foods grocery store? Why would they block traffic and attempt to close ports in Oakland, CA? They are hurting ALL businesses. In fact, they are hurting small businesses far more than big businesses and they don't care who's corrupt and who's not in their attacks.
@anniepa (27236)
• United States
2 Dec 11
When dealing with a group of hundreds of thousands of people spread out all over the country it's hard to fairly make such broad statements about what "they" are against anymore than it was "fair" to say all tea partiers considered the President to be like Hitler. Annie
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
2 Dec 11
Annie, can you find ONE member of the protests, much less a majority, who disagreed with blocking streets, entering and vandalizing banks, or blocking the ports. Quite to the contrary, those were the actions they were most proud of. In fact, they tweeted and posted all over the place how their goal in Oakland was to shut the ports down. There was not one word of concern over the truckers who would be unable to do their jobs and lose money because of it. Keep in mind Annie, you're comparing stupid signs to CRIMES. Carrying a stupid sign is not a crime. Vandalizing a bank is.
@anniepa (27236)
• United States
29 Nov 11
You may have noticed I've pretty much stayed out of most of the discussions I've seen here about the OWS. That's been because I realize there's no point in trying to ague with anyone who's already made up their mind about this movement anymore than there was any point for anyone to try to change MY mind about some within the tea party awhile back. I remember very well being told here on myLot, maybe by YOU, that the tea partiers with the Hitler signs were probably planted there by liberal organizations. Whenever anyone at a tea party even did something questionable it was either a plant or it never really happened. I got trashed here many times for even suggesting there may be some within the tea party with bigoted views. I never said nor would I say they were representative of the group but it seemed like some of their supporters were in total denial of there being a single bad element in the entire movement. I think the OWS and the tea party movements may actually have a thing or two in common. I mean the actual rank and file participants, not the lobbyists like D1ck Armey and the Koch brothers who have funded the tea party. I also think whenever you have a large group of people there are going to be some bad eggs among them, that's the law of averages; since there are many more OWS members than tea partiers the law of averages also says there will likely be more total bad eggs in that group as well. As far as any funds the OWS is "sitting" on, I wasn't aware of that and I don't even know who the actual "leaders" of the group are. I do agree that when damage is done to someone's property it should be fixed and/or paid for by the ones who did the damage. However, blaming the entire movement for what a tiny few have done isn't fair. It wasn't fair when it was done to the tea party and it's not fair now. Annie
@anniepa (27236)
• United States
29 Nov 11
OMG, I don't believe I forgot Mr. Armey's first name was a banned word here...lol! Annie
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
30 Nov 11
"I remember very well being told here on myLot, maybe by YOU, that the tea partiers with the Hitler signs were probably planted there by liberal organizations." Yes, but you know full well that liberal organizations DID plant people with racist, sexist, signs and shirts in the tea parties. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/15/oregon-probes-teacher-determined-demolish-tea-party/ The big difference with the Tea Parties is that they obtained permits, followed all laws and regulations, left when their permits expired, cleaned up after themselves, and didn't commit crimes all over the country. With OWS, it's not a few bad eggs causing trouble. The groups that broke into banks and vandalized them while screaming and yelling weren't condemned by anyone. They proudly put their videos on youtube where other OWS supporters encouraged such activity. The most condemnation I've seen from anyone in OWS was in Oakland, CA where someone put a note saying "we're better than this" on a broken bank window. Of course nobody bothered to turn the person in who broke the window and the many other windows broken at businesses didn't have such notes. I'm sure you remember the way the Tea Party was constantly called on to denounce and condemn acts of racism, and they did. Even when organizers did questionable things they were condemned and ousted and that was just for being stupid, not for committing crimes. Apparently the only way to get ousted from OWS is by raping someone, and even then they tell rape victims not to contact police because they would rather the "security council" deal with it. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-occupy-baltimore-rape-20111019,0,3542147.story
@TheCatLady (4695)
• Israel
28 Nov 11
These Occupy folks are nothing but grubby socialists. Who do they think takes the monetary risk to develop their iphone? Who builds and finances the factories that produces their clothing, their shoes? Corporations do. Unless these yahoos make their own clothes, grow their own food, go to a small shoemaker and have their shoes made for them.
• United States
26 Nov 11
I hadn't heard of much violence from the OWS movement, except a bunch of arrest and not so nice action from police. Having talked to a guy who is involved with it in my city he stated that they were against any violence as it's not only bad PR but not what they are trying to accomplish. Either way, it's worth noting that historically all "peaceful protests" have always involved some violence at the national level. From the civil rights movement to the protesting against the Vietnam war. Usually when it's at the point of nation wide or even now basically world wide protest. It should be a clear indicator something rather important needs to be addressed, but even with all of our great technology it's still a slow process of even pointing out the issues much less doing anything about them.
@coffeebreak (17820)
• United States
25 Nov 11
Very well could be that those that are 'sitting' on the money...intend to donate it to Obama's re-election committee! They all are destroying so many things that belong to others, yet complain when the same is done to them. They are costing others their jobs by making the companies close due to their "protesting". They are only "against" all they are protesting about if it happens to them. Them doing it is fine and dandy in their eyes...or they wouldn't be doing it. It'd get them a whole lot more respect and possibly even accomodations if they'd protest more peacefully and for most...know what they are protesting about!
@dragon54u (31617)
• United States
25 Nov 11
They just don't care. In my experience in reading about these types of movements and talking to some people involved, they don't mean to be destructive but the destruction doesn't register with them--everyone outside the movement is dehumanized and the people in the movement are pretty much the only ones that have cognitive thought or awareness. Those that oppose the cause are evil, those that don't care are enablers for the bad guys. In short, they are narcissists and incapable of caring about the damage they cause. It is like the typical person who hears of an earthquake on the other side of the world and briefly feels sympathy for the victims but then promptly forgets about it as they go about their daily lives.