Republican Party or Tea Party

@speakeasy (4171)
United States
February 10, 2012 4:13pm CST
As a long time Republican, I am very disappointed that the "Tea Party" (which is not even a political party) has taken over the Republican Party. And, not even the original "Tea Party" which originally stood for fiscal conservatism; but, the current "Tea Party" which has been taken over by Catholics and evangelical Christians. The Republican Party needs to stand up to the Tea Party and stop courting them and their fanatical ideas. We need intelligent, unbiased leaders who actually support their constituents OR they may as well change their name to "Tea Party" and stop trying to fool the people who actually make up the Republican Party. If this kowtowing to the Tea Party does not cease pretty soon; I will go ahead and change my party affiliation to independant.
7 responses
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
10 Feb 12
ROFL, most of the TEA partiers I know have left the Republican party altogether. We still vote mostly Republican, but the RNC has pretty much proven they just want us to vote and shut up. The RNC stuffed that coward John McCain down our throats, after a couple of decades of telling us how rotten he is. The same RNC is not trying to do the same with Romney... and did the same with Dole. The truth is, the RNC looks at the TEA parties the way you do. You want us to just vote Republican and shut up too.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
11 Feb 12
Then, the Tea Party should come up with their own candidate instead of backing the Republican candidates. Either be a "party" or get out of politics. No, I do NOT want you to vote "Republican and shut up". I want you to vote for whichever candidate will be best for the US regardless of party lines.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
11 Feb 12
There have been independent candidates throughout the country that have been endorsed by various tea parties. They don't just blindly endorse republicans. Even a small number of democrats have been endorsed by tea parties.
• United States
11 Feb 12
The trouble with running under a third party line is that, unless you have a larger base of support than the two major parties, you actually end up hurting the Republican party by splitting the conservative vote. Of course, you could use that as a threat if you don't get what you want, but you'll need to run as part of a major party (or garner a larger support base than either party) in order to really get your own people elected.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
13 Feb 12
As long as I can remember, there have been two political parties in the US, the Democrats who were liberal and the Republicans who were conservative. Now we have moderates in both parties. Is a true Republican a conservative or a moderate? What are the fanatical ideas of the current "Tea Party"?
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
14 Feb 12
After looking at your profile, I find that we are almost the same age. When I was in my late teens and just eligible to start voting, I researched our political parties. We do actually have more than 2 parties; but, any party other than Democrat or Republican barely get a mention and have little to no influence. The results of my research were that the Democrats are "give a man a fish" in their philosophy and the Republicans are "teach a man to fish" - (Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.) I went Republican. We used to have liberals, moderates, and conservatives in BOTH parties. We still do; but, many of the moderates and liberals in the Republican party are being overshadowed or forced out by the Tea Party politics that are taking over the Republican Party. "What are the fanatical ideas of the current "Tea Party"?" Very simply, their "my way or the highway" attitide. They allow no room for compromise and do not care what the majority of people in the US want to happen, only what THEY want. These are not the principals our country was founded on and they do not describe a democracy. Any time you have a person or group of people that insist that their way is the only correct way, that things have to be the way that they say; and that there is no room for compromise - you have fanaticism.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
15 Feb 12
The Tea Party started out with - reduced government spending, increased government accountability, enforcement of immigration laws, and balanced budget. It then extended to overturning Obamacare, increased taxes for the rich, and following the dictates of Catholicism and evangelicical Christianity. And, they now refuse to permit any comprise on any of their positions even when it results in deadlocks and nothing being accomplished.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
14 Feb 12
You misunderstood my question. I want to know what the tea party's political ideas are. Do these ideas differ from the ideas of the Republican party?
@egdcltd (12060)
10 Feb 12
In the UK we usually manage to keep all the outright nutters sidelined into their own parties. As they occasionally manage to win various electoral posts, they tend to keep to their own parties and not contaminate the main ones.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
11 Feb 12
The problem with the Tea Party is that they grew to a massive size very rapidly. They started in a recession with demands for eliminating corruption in goverment, eliminating earmarks, balancing the budget and stopping government overspending. All good things and things many Americans could get behind. But, then they started attracting the "nutters" who quietly took over and started inserting religious agendas. Most intelligent people who are not conservative religious fanatics have been distancing ourselves from the Tea Party. Unfortunately, as long as the Tea Party can get into the news, the politicians have continued to court them and they are distancing themselves from the majority of American voters (even those who are in the same party).
@egdcltd (12060)
11 Feb 12
When I first heard of the Tea Party, they seemed like a good idea, but they rapidly seemed to become barking mad. And not in a good way, like the Monster Raving Loony Party.
• United States
11 Feb 12
Unfortunately, the hindrance we have that you across the pond don't is our ridiculous fear that the government is going to become too powerful and swallow us whole if they're allowed to provide us with a decent health care system.
@fannitia (2167)
• Bulgaria
10 Feb 12
Speaking as an outside observer, I think that this division inside the GOP is not the appropriate thing right now, in this election year. Voters always need to hear the ideas of the candidates and not the quarrels in the party.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
10 Feb 12
Unless something changes very quickly, even though I have been a Republican since the 1970's, I will be voting Democrat this year. Also, a recent survey showed that over 20 percent of the Republican Party is so disgusted with what is happening this year that they also will vote Democrat rather than let any of the current candidates take office. If you have read my previous posts from the last Presidential election and even those after; you will know that I loath Obama; but, he would be better for this country than any of the current Republican candidates and the garbage they are proposing.
• United States
11 Feb 12
Yes, these Super PACs are ridiculous. They are clearly an appendage of the campaigns because each candidate has their own PAC.
@crossbones27 (48480)
• Mojave, California
11 Feb 12
I concur, thank you for being the first Republican that I have seen stand up to the Tea Party in a general sense. I have seen Scott Brown do it but was to the whole party overall and it was just one single issue he was talking about. I also seen John McCain actually call the tea party out, but it again was on one issue and then he went on Hannity, and became a coward and pretty much backtracked everything he had said. I honestly feel sorry for real Republicans that have to endure such nonsense. I am not a Republican but if I were you I would switch to independent. You can always switch back if and when the Republican party ever gets its act together again. If enough people feel the you do I am sure your party will change its tune real quick if all of you do that.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
11 Feb 12
Thank you. This country does need more than 2 major parties and I would wholeheartedly love to see the Tea Party actually live up to their name and become a "legitimate" political party in their own right instead of infiltrating and trying to take over the Republican party. Unfortunately, no matter what we do, it will not be in time to change the 2012 election campaign and it may take the Republicans losing to Obama again to let them see that they are going too conservative and are actually trying to turn back time instead of looking to the future.
• Mojave, California
12 Feb 12
The moderate party is a good theory, but I would also like to throw in just to have one party the American party. This country was built on a idea. Why do we need political parties, where apparently all it does is create divisiveness, because people seem to think only there party can be right. Since the country was founded on an idea, why not keep it that way? This country grinds to a halt on little petty issues from each side? This way we would only elect politicians on their ideas where they formed from listening to the people instead of other politicians and people who threw the most money their way.
• United States
11 Feb 12
I personally believe that the U.S. needs a true "moderate" party. The two major ones are becoming increasingly partisan to their own side, and this alienates people like me who are in the middle. I am currently a democrat, but would join any serious attempt at a moderate party.
• United States
11 Feb 12
I heartily agree with you (I changed my affiliation from Republican to Democrat in 2010 during the whole beginning of the tea party movement). A political party can get infiltrated and controlled by a particular group of people (in this case, tea partiers) and this tends to make other people within the party nervous. The biggest problem I find with this group is their complete inability to even communicate with the other side of the aisle. It's their way or the highway, and I think that will actually hurt their cause more than help it..
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
12 Feb 12
Well, I have too many problems with the Democratic patry to actually become a Democrat; that is why I would go Independant. "The biggest problem I find with this group is their complete inability to even communicate with the other side of the aisle." I have found that type of attitude anytime religion gets involved with anything. That is why we are supposed to have religious freedom in the US and separation of church and state; but, unfortunately, we have a lot of religions (Christians, especially in the US) who act like religious freedom means that others have the right to believe in their religion only and that they can impose their religious beliefs on others. When religion started being injected into the Tea Party, I ran the other way as fast as I could; but, now it is dragging down the Republican Party.
@jeetking (190)
11 Feb 12
Tea party off course where people can relax and share their views.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
12 Feb 12
Unfortunately, not. The Tea Party is a group of people who do anything but relax and share their views. In the US they are a politically active group which calls themselves a "party"; but, has not done the necessary work to make them a legitimate political party.