God isn't Real

Maybe, science explain everything happen with a theory and that so complicated. Like how earth created, ape become human, bla bla bla. I'm an ordinary one with an ordinary life, I don't need such a complicated explanation. That make me dizzy and want to puke. I prefer to believe that all thing created by something.That something called God, that simple.

Hold on! Weren't there prophets or something that said that 'We (Humans) are gods'? If I am a god, then I decide that I want to have been created by something greater than myself! The only thing greater than a god is a greater god. Find the greatest god you know, and let him tell you about the greatest god---Our Father, Maker of All Things (Seen & Unseen) Or he'll tell you about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Noodley Be His Appendage & Spicy Be His Meat-a-ball ... either way, a greater creator than me.

So you have faith in science, and I have faith in God. The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. Everyone puts their faith and confidence in something. Science, God, themselves, etc. Everyone must decide what to do with that God-given quality, faith. That is where being a free moral agent and having a choice comes in. You have faith? What will you do with it?

After reading all of the discussion here, I'm left wondering not if god is real or if god isn't real, but rather if people actually understand science. I mean, for everything we're to believe about god, one can find that in one book. Right? The rest is just interpretation through priests and through other believers and through religious philosophers and through supposed personal experience. I wonder if people understand the actual depth of science -- just how much there is to comprehend, from how the age of the universe is gauged to how what people might think is "nothing" is still a "something" with mass and activity. I am certainly no brilliant mind. I couldn't lie about that even if I wanted to. It'd be laughable. But I see few people who can follow the science who are also willing to pooh-pooh it and offer up a nonsensical explanation of it. That's not to say that one couldn't be a brilliant mind and understand it and still believe in a creator. That's not to say that the only brilliant minds are in science. It's not true. Many people are quite intelligent without being intelligent in one particular field. And many people believe in the science; they just believe their god created the universe and life that way. It's all good. But I will say that there's just a huge difference in seeing the theoretical conclusion and ultimately following the steps there to reach it.

The very thing that moves without any force does not appear logical. If you havent moved an object, would it move? There is happening everywhere around you, everything is moving. Things will not move without a force. That force do not come from nothing.

This is the eternal quarrel between religion and science. I try to keep a diplomatic position on the matter. I cant understand how the existence of nothingness is possible, and even the big bang theory doesn't begin from the complete nothingness, it just explains how our universe was transformed into what it is today, from its previous state. But how did that previous state come to exist? And how are we going to feel once we die? Feeling nothing is too scary and difficult to understand. Or the scientists have still a lot more to discover, or god exists. I go with the second option. :)

First of all, how do we know if all our theories are correct in the first place? There was a time that people thought the universe, sun, planets revolved around the Earth, but that has been proven wrong. How do you know that the the Big bang was a formation of nothing into something? What caused the big bang in the first place? Look at nature and the Earth and how perfectly everything meshes together. And, do your think it's just co-incidence that a being has evolved to the point where they can contemplate whether or not there is a God? Isn't it interesting that we evolved on a planet far out near the edge of the galaxy away from most other planets that might have beings that can harm us? And, our planet is blocked from the view of many other planets by a large cloud of gas and dust, too. Humans do not know everything and future generations will look back at us and wonder how we could be so stupid.

I agree. The funny thing is that according to Christian teachings, God is always testing us and bad things are in the world so we can learn. Why would an all-powerful, all-knowing being have to test people and why wouldn't he have known and gone with a world where we could learn without suffering? If he is all-loving, then wouldn't he go with the painless way? Also, it seems very arrogant to think that the creator of the universe would care what a young species on a tiny speck of a planet is doing. I can't recall who said it, but I read the comparison that that would be like a person having an ant farm and caring if one of them had a dirty thought. Science is so much more beautiful than religion. I love the natural world and don't think that I have to spruce things up with superstition.

How do you know the scientist are telling you the truth? For me it wouldn't matter what they said, I could neither deny nor confirm it. If I accepted their theories it would be on faith alone. Is there anything in creation that has absolutely no purpose? Why would anything come into being if there isn't a reason for it? Aren't the scientist now saying that sound created the universe? Doesn't the Bible say all creation was spoken into existence? Maybe the Bible and what it claims is worth checking out. God does exist and if you're ever separated from Him you'll discover how much you need Him.

"...the formation of Nothing into Something through the Big Bang, now has possible directions that do not require any kind of omnipotent force, shown through brilliant minds like Stephen Hawking and Lawerence Krauss." Nothing - No thing; not anything; naught. Dictionary.com The brilliant minds of Stephen Hawking and Lawrence Krauss, in their suggestion that something can come from nothing mentioned space, gravity, and energy. Space - Space is the boundless, three-dimensional extent in which objects and events occur and have relative position and direction. Wikipedia Gravity - The force of attraction by which terrestrial bodies tend to fall toward the center of the earth. Heaviness or weight. Dictionary.com Energy - In physics, energy (Greek: ?????e?a energeia "activity, operation" is an indirectly observed quantity. It is often understood as the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems. Since work is defined as a force acting through a distance (a length of space), energy is always equivalent to the ability to exert pulls or pushes against the basic forces of nature, along a path of a certain length. Wikipedia Do Hawking and Krauss have a different definition for nothing from what the rest of us have? Nothing is NO Thing. That means no space, no gravity, and no energy. Leaving out everything that is something, how does something come from nothing?

Yes science does explain MOST things... however science does not explain EVERYthing for those few things that science cannot explain we need to have something in the way of explanation which is where "God" comes into play Why do we need science? Why cant we accept "God" as a universal explanation?

Oh yes,God does exist. God has a much higher IQ than scientists. Scientists haven't caught up yet. Still, science will discover God before religion does. There is still such a long way to go and much for people to discover. Step by step, mankind will get there. Believe it or not. You would really like God. Look around you again. Instead of looking for a reason that God exists, try to figure out what is really going on with this world. It does all add up.

If there's no God, who created you? The trees,mountains,oceans, falls and the whole earth? The animals who swim,walk,crawl, and fly, who would create all of them? Science will never be enough to reach God's knowledge. And people's mind was so narrow to know how great is our God, so we should give him all the honor and praise for everything he has done in our life. Maybe you can't see or even appreciate his works, but every breath you take is a blessing from him who loves you so much even if you don't believe in his existence. If you have faith, you know there is God. Even if we can't see him, you can always feel His presence. You just have to believe. God loves you so much that he gave up his Son for you to gain life :)

You said that they have proved that they have proved that big bag has proved that god is not real.I have Watched and have been fascinated by this and i have been following it.Did you know that the so called scientists say that big bang created all this out of nothing.But did you know how this big bang happened? They said that the big bang was caused when a looot of energy was compressed to a point where it couldn't any more and it exploded.This is what created the universe.And you say that there is no god.But then where do you think the energy needed for thins came from? The scientists also agree that this can be clues to the existence of some greater power.But they just can't prove that it is god.After all we are just human.Maybe in the future they will.But right now this is all we got.

Hi... Logically, your statement is true... The logic, the argument behind it is impressive... No doubt about it. But buddy, we need God... Most of us, do! That is to say, all of us at one stage seek the presence of The Almighty.. the dark times full of uncertainties...so even if there's no proof, we still need God...

Arm with information on formation from nothing into something through the Big Bang, mankind do not require any kind of omnipotent force anymore except brilliant minds like Stephen Hawkings and Lawerence Krauss that can create universe, mulit-verse, stars and sun, galaxies and black holes on paper to explain away all the doubts and questions a simple mind possess. Cool!

http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm That link from perhaps one of the grestest scientist of all time. Here's another on the supposed conflict between science and faith. http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2012/03/01/147755696/is-there-a-conflict-between-science-and-religion

My purpose of getting in this discussion is to check how logically I can think and express my views. I'm not as good as others out there but I can definitely try. Guyz take my arguments as fun and not personally. If you found rudeness and arrogance in my tone then please forgive me, I apologise for it. So lets take the discussion further... I believe its invalid to drag scientific arguments in this discussion cause you can't prove or disprove something unless and until you get a chance to observe how it works. What is there in religious texts can be both valid and invalid based on the standards of the topic being discussed but when it comes to God, most of them provide a circular logic and if you search for an answer for this universe and its existence you get an excuse- "god". As my "friend" Stephen Hawking() says- "So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is really completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would have neither beginning nor end: it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?" Part of what I would like to point out is the origin of the concept of god and religion. But what I'm interested in is taking the idea of God out of the life of an individual (yep.. wiping out the concept completely) and observe what changes he encounters; if he realises his own self-sustainability. An individual's actions are not limited to his life but rather their effects spread in all directions, enveloping everyone we may or may not be physically in contact with. That this world and their life is made of random events happening all around. That what he thanks god for might be some echo or a reaction of a random event triggered by his own actions or the actions of some other person. I know it would be like world going upside down for him, but if he puts aside what he is indoctrinated to do and try to question God's authority, his work and his morality, then only he'll come to understand the point atheists and agnostics are trying to make. Then only he'll reach the platform where he may argue his beliefs logically. In such an argument, rather than excerpting directly from the religious scripts its first necessary to clarify the points to be held as its base. Its important for an argument that the people arguing are ready to step into the opponents' shoes. If not they may continue to advocate what they have been taught to and the debate will go on forever.

God exist in us through a religion. If we believe that God is real and he is real, if we don't believe that he isn't real then he isn't real. I don't have a religion, then in the beginning time i don't know God exists or not. But when i got a problem, i got sadness, my friend often told me that God will blesses me, then with the time i think he may exists somewhere...

God is the eternal law that runs this universe.Nobody knows how this universe was created.The big bang is just a theory.You may call it a hypothesis that is yet to be proved.I wonder why we human beings have become so much dependent on science.There are many things that science has not been able to prove.For me,God cannot be proved.He is beyond any proof.He is a feeling,a faith.He can only be felt,not proved.He is the eternal law of karma.You can attain Him only if you believe in Him.Believe in Him and see for yourself.