Are Diabetics Diabetics Own Worst Enemy?

@KrauseHome (35517)
United States
August 23, 2012 5:55pm CST
The reason I asked that is there are many types of Diabetics out there, and there are those who are strict to a "T" who only follow certain regimines and are always considered under control, while there are others out there who might lax in some things but pretty much still have good A1cs, and then there are those like me who are trying to keep everything in control and try to always eat most of the time right, but always judged and then those who think they know it all while holding a regular soda or lemonade in their hand wondering why their Sugars all of a sudden are high, and then those who just do not care and wish everyone would leave them alone. Personally I wish there would also quit being this trait because of weight, etc. I know people probably even here who weigh over 250 who are not Diabetic, and may never be while I know a lot of people under 200 who are. Often times it is all hereditary and sometimes just a luck of the draw with other medical reasons that might help contribute to it as well. But personally I see a lot of different types right where I work even, and it is interesting. So many of them worry about their A1c etc. but I see eating just about anything, or watching what they eat until they drop too low, and then make excuses without ever testing in the first place, and then see them drinking the lemonaid and then even making comments their A1c is good when it was like 7.8 or so the last time they had one done... (I thought a Healthy A1c for a Diabetic should be 6.5 or lower?) Makes me wonder, and that is why I tend to think we are often our own worst enemy, and so are Doctors anymore because too many of them think unless you are over 250 all the time you are not Diabetic and are ok? Is this a sign of things yet to come if Healthcare becomes even more organized here in the US? If you are Diabetic do you tend to see things this way as well, or is it just me? ~~TINA~~
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@chrystalia (1209)
• Tucson, Arizona
24 Aug 12
I'm not a diabetic myself, but it's funny-- I have one friend who weighs around 110, is a type 1 diabetic and is constantly going into the ER because she won't watch her diet, intake or monitor her sugar. I have another friend who is almost 300 pounds, watches everything all the time (she's also a type 1), and is healthy as a horse-- her doctor is always on her to lose weight, and she tries and tries, and it doesn't work. Then my 3rd friend was 120 until she had her daughter, then she got type 2 diabetes and she has gained 100 pounds in a year and a half since she was diagnosed, and she is obsessive about her diet and monitoring. All of them agree by the way that a healthy A1c is 6.5 or below. I have come to the conclusion that is must be luck of the draw. I have also noticed that most of the people I have known with diabetes that DIDN'T have children weigh less and gain less weight than those who have had kids. I know before I had my boys, I could eat anything-- after I had them, I look at a grape and gain five pounds. Maybe having children affects metabolism. As for me, I have diverticulosis, and when I have flare ups, I drop weight like crazy because of the constant diarrhea-- and for the past few years, every time I have had to go to a hospital for anything, even a migraine, they always ask me if I have ever been diagnosed with diabetes! I always tell them no, why don't you glucose tolerance test me if you're worried about it? It just started happening in the last two years. My blood work always comes back fine, I eat a low glycemic diet anyway because it sets easier on the stomach, and the only time my sugar is outside of normal is when the diverticulosis has been flaring up for more than a week, because it is really tough to stay hydrated. Heck, my sugar was at 58 when I had my last flare up and had to go in the hospital for intestinal bleeding-- but I was also dehydrated at the time. It was weird, because I didn't feel any different than I usually do when I am having a bad episode.My doc was amazed I was still conscious and on my feet, for some reason. Go Figure. I am dreading the healthcare changes-- they are going to end up costing everyone far more money for far less care. I live 4 miles from the Canadian border, and half my doc's patients are Canadians who come here because they can't get care in Canada in a decent time frame for a decent price. In Tucson, my care costs me over 4 times what it costs here, and prescriptions are 3 times higher and it's impossible to get an appointment with a specialist even when you pay cash like I do, because there are so many illegal aliens and indigent people in the system. My regular doc there raised his rates for cash patients 3 times in 2 years because the state and federal government kept cutting what they paid him, and when Obamacare passed he decided after the new year he is lowering his cash rates again and will stop seeing medicare and state paid patients entirely.One of the reasons I moved here permanently was so I could AFFORD to go to a doctor. My doc here has already told all his patients after January 1 HE will only be seeing cash patients, because if he does anything else he would have to raise our cash prices to triple what we pay now. Here in Bellingham, almost half the patients the doctors get come from Canada, and a lot of the doctors and clinics have announced they won't take government patients of any kind anymore. I don't blame them either-- the government doesn't pay them squat, and often doesn't pay them for months and months-- and when your insurance costs 6 or 7 thousand dollars a month, you need to get paid.
@KrauseHome (35517)
• United States
30 Aug 12
Personally the Healthcare changes that Obama is trying to implement scare me. What I am seeing already for Health care is nothing to be excited about, and personally I am wishing for the Good ole days when it took only one or two doctors to get something done instead of now having to see a whole bunch of different doctors for all kinds of different things. I hate to see those of us like me with Major issues what is going to happen as things progress. Let's hope somehow this Health Care idea can be stopped as it will only create a ton more debt than prevent it.
• Tucson, Arizona
30 Aug 12
I agree. My health care cost is going to go through the roof-- and I'll have to pay a fine because I won't participate. Not inly will my care be more expensive, I'll get less care and I'll be paying for other people to get care. It's going to be horrible
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@KrauseHome (35517)
• United States
31 Aug 12
Well, on one hand I agree that they need to cut the costs Doctors and Hospitals charge people, and the cost of Medications, but to do something like this and rob from those who have Insurance just to make sure everyone has some, and then fine them if they don't is unreal. Look at anyone who is Retired and just on Medicare now and see how little they have covered versus what they have to pay, and you have a good example of what Obama care will be.
@oneidmnster (1389)
• United States
24 Aug 12
Some people are their own worst enemy. I know a couple of people I work with that think they can eat and drink whatever they want as long as they give themselves more insulin. Then they can't understand why their blood sugar is so high. I wasn't Diabetic until I had a kidney transplant 7 years ago. Now the kidneys have failed and I'm still a Diabetic. When I found out I was Diabetic I weighed 180. There are probably millions of people who are Diabetic but have never been tested. The thing that scares me the most is the thought of having body parts chopped off if I don't watch my blood sugar. This might just happen to the people that don't have themselves tested.
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@KrauseHome (35517)
• United States
31 Aug 12
Well, I work with people that I swear are Diabetic. I see them drink a lot of Sodas in an 8 hr. shift, always tired, etc. One of them says he was tested but never been told anything. He even has had Mini Strokes, etc. Problem is some of the Doctors out there think you are not Diabetic until you are running over 250 all the time. But I think it is only going to get way worse than better for sure.
@winterose (39918)
• Canada
24 Aug 12
well I am diabetic, type 1 diabetes is hereditary, and you are most likely born with it. But type 2 diabetes is the disease of the obese, yes it is true, most people meaning 9 or of 10 people who have type 2 diabetes got it because of being overweight. It is a known medical fact, one of the few they know. It is rare that skinny people get type 2 diabetes. I have always been over weight doctors were telling me when I was 20 to lose weight or I ran the risk of getting type 2 diabetes. I didn't listen and got the disease in my late 40's. Mine is not under control. They are not sure what they can do other than keep upting my meds. If it doesn't get under control I will die from it. I can get heart disease, kidney problems, eye problems and so on all brought on by diabetes. In fact the doctors as saying every condition I have now is because of diabetes. I am trying to eat properly but it is hard. I only had ice cream once this summer, and donuts once this summer. That is it for the sweets.
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@manleyjoe (1599)
• United States
24 Aug 12
I disagree with the statement of diabetes being a "disease of the obese". I have a nephew who looks like a beanpole, barely 150 lbs, and he contracted type 2 diabetes after surgery for some other problem. Myself was only 200 lbs when I had surgery for bypass and when it was over and done I now have type 2 diabetes and take insulin to control it. Yes now I am overweight but was not at time I became diabetic. It is a never ending battle to keep things in line, my sugars can be running good and I do a little extra work, even housework, and may be awaken at 3 am with low sugars, 53 or there about. So it is up and grab the orange juice and then back to bed to await the sugar to rise so I can sleep without worry.
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@winterose (39918)
• Canada
24 Aug 12
not everyone gets diabetes, I said that, right now there are 9 million Americans with diabetes. You can disagree if you like but it has been medically established that the major cause of type 11 diabetes is obesity. There are always exceptions to every rule, and your friend is one of them. Although to be honest I have never heard of getting diabetes after an operation. I have not seen it listed in any medical book. But diabetes is an autoimmune disease so something might have gone wrong with the production of insulin somehow in his case.
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@KrauseHome (35517)
• United States
5 Sep 12
Well, like others have stated not everyone who is Diabetic is obese, as I have never been. Not every obese person will have Diabetes either as I know a lot of heavier people who do not have it, and never have, as well as thinner people getting it and dying from it, most of the time shocking Doctors that they even have it. The biggest problem is probably at least 60-70% of the people who have Diabetic complications do not find out until their sugar levels are above 400 or more. Personally there needs to be more Diabetic education for people out there, and for Doctors to know what to look for. Too many times you hear of people say I am OK, even if their sugar levels are over 200 while judging someone else just because they are on insulin.
@ElicBxn (60895)
• United States
24 Aug 12
my mother became borderline diabetic at 140 - but she watched her diet and never got any worse. I was up to 254 a few years ago and I actually had low blood sugars, go figure. There are a lot of different kind of diabetics. There are those who can stick to their diets and still have problems, there are those who can do about anything and take their meds and not have problems. There are "fragile" diabetics who only have to look at candy and need insulin. Of course, there are type 1 and type 2 diabetics, one born that way and one becomes that way. I don't try to judge people, but I expect them to do their best, testing and/or taking their meds or whatever.
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@Hatley (164484)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Aug 12
hi elicbxn hate to tell you this but I started out with low blood sugar and was told if I was not careful as I hit forty or fifty I would likely become type 2 diabeti cwhat they did not tell me was most type 2 diabetics get diabetes from' being obese.fat cells stop insulin from herding the sugar into the cells of your muscles where it is needed and just dump it 'into our blood where it is not needed. I have got control of mine and I am careful what I eat and how much I eat thus getting' down to an A1C of 6.4 which is very good.
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@ElicBxn (60895)
• United States
24 Aug 12
I'm nearly 60 now, I do know the dangers actually, I've known a lot of folks who became diabetic - the roomie used to be, but the gastric bypass has gotten it under control... I actually eat pretty good for a fat gal - I am beginning to believe that corn is a contributing factor, since I can't eat it at all...
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@KrauseHome (35517)
• United States
2 Sep 12
Personally you never really can tell what will cause some people to be a diabetic while others are not. It would be nice of there were actually more things to base it on but no 2 people are exactly the same. I am not that much over weight. Most of mine is stemming back to health when I was growing up as well as hereditary. Everyone on my moms side is usually always diabetic at one time in their life and then it is up to us to decide what to do from there.
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@roberten (3131)
• United States
27 Aug 12
As far as I know, I am not diabetic. I have been tested and the results have not shown me to be diabetic. However, I am a realist and I know that can change, especially with age and diet or heredity. I have contemplated this topic and have reached the same conclusions as you, but I also think this true of many ailments we suffer. It is difficult for some to accept not being in perfect health, they see it as some kind of weakness or flaw. In reality, everyone has something, so it is rather normal. We just have to get over ourselves and get down to the business of taking care of ourselves. We are our first line of defense against that which is harmful to us and we should be the first person to respond when we have issues that need addressing. We can be our own worst enemy or we can be our own best friend, the choice is up to us. No matter what we choose, others should not stand in judgment of us, especially not knowing our situation. Words once spoken are difficult, if not impossible, to eat.
@dorannmwin (36698)
• United States
26 Aug 12
You know, I do have to say that I agree with you that a diabetic individual's worst enemy is themselves. However, I don't always think that it is because of the fact that they don't always watch their diets and such, from the experiences that I've seen in my life, it is more because of the fact that a person's body doesn't always react the way that it is supposed to. For example, one of my close friend's son is diabetic (he is 12 years old and was diagnosed when he was 6 years old), he eats like he is supposed to, but his body has a really hard time adjusting to the weather like with the extreme heat we experienced this year, he has not been able to keep his levels under control.
• India
25 Aug 12
Hello my friend KrauseHome Ji, Well, I am DM2 since all most more than 15 yrs now, but having regular treament only since six Years, but I never follow diet prescribed by Dr. Some times back I had send you my diebetic findings, I will try and repeat here once more :- CHART-II Blood Sugar [b]Date PP Fastg Normal
@laydee (12814)
• Philippines
24 Aug 12
I am a Diabetic but I am one of those who just let people be. If they should need my advise on how I maintain a normal range of A1c, then that's the time when I speak out and give them my regimen. However, if they're diabetics who are obviously trying to kill themselves, perhaps I would nudge them a little bit but if they don't listen, well, that's their life. I don't always follow strict rules and regimens though, I think they're making people miserable. I am lenient, my doctors are too, as long as I know my boundaries. I could eat ice cream, I could eat any sweet stuff, I could do just about anything a person who isn't a diabetic does. Most people wouldn't even believe that I am a diabetic. Perhaps it's because I don't look at my condition as something to be super worried about. I do have checks often. I go through a lot of doctors for everything. But I could still manage to live a normal life because I don't push myself too much. Thus, I guess, I am happier. As our trainer in Yoga/Pilates always says "Listen to your body". Regimens are made "in general", you will always know your body better than anyone else. My doctors are there to guide me as my friends. They don't need to scold me because I follow them and adjust whenever I feel the regimen is too much. There will always be alternatives. Have a great MylOt experience ahead!