Is it the landlords, or tenents responsibility?

@911Ricki (13588)
Canada
December 26, 2012 11:13am CST
Alright where I work they rent the building from the landlord. Now our toilet hasnt been working properly for a few weeks. Everytime they say it's the landlords responsibility, he comes fixes it enough to make it work, then after a few flushes it's broke again. I went today, and spent 30 minutes trying to flush this toilet, and finally got it done. Now this is a business so the public uses the bathrooms as well. I think it looks bad on them as a business, whether they made an agreement with the landlord or not.
7 people like this
19 responses
@vernaC (1491)
• Romania
26 Dec 12
I think it's the responsiblity of both. Things won't work better if they are pointing fingers. Both sides should discuss about issues on how to improve the facility for everyone's comfort and safety. One cannot guess of what other wants, so much better for them to discuss about it and they might find more things to improve as well.
2 people like this
@BarBaraPrz (45498)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
26 Dec 12
It all depends on what's in the lease whose responsibility it is, but yes, something should be done soon if the public uses it too. If the whole toilet needs replacing, then I would think it's the landlord's responsibility.
1 person likes this
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
27 Dec 12
I feel that if one can use a plunger or flush it a few times, it is the tenant's responsibility. It is the landlord's after all that can be done as the above does not work. Then he has to call a plumber who will shut off the water, and fix the toilet because obviously it is not a matter of what comes out of a person blocking it or reaching in and taking out a lid from a deodarent stick. Yes the latter happened to me.
• United States
27 Dec 12
It depends on the terms of the lease and what local law says in terms of the tenant-landlord relationship. However, regardless of what the lease and the laws say, the toilet needs to be properly fixed now. That means that the business should take the step of having it properly repaired, and, depending on rights, perhaps deducting the cost from rent.
1 person likes this
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
27 Dec 12
Definitely, it's the landlords responsibility. He is the lessor, so he must see to it that all the facilities are working properly for his tenants. And if in case these facilities incurred problems, it's the duty of the lessor to have them fixed for the convenience of their tenants, unless of course if found that the tenant did it deliberately.
1 person likes this
@dee777 (1417)
• South Africa
27 Dec 12
Check the contract to see what responsibilities each party has.Then you write a letter to the landlord and make sure he signs receipt of it. Keep a copy of the letter you give to him. Show him a copy of his responsibilities in the contract towards the tenants and give him a due date when it should be fixed - properly.
@rusty2rusty (6751)
• Defiance, Ohio
28 Dec 12
I think it really depend on the contract signed between the tentant and the landlord. I personally think unless a plumber needs called in, the tendant of the business should resolve the issue. Buy a plunger, keep close at hand and use accordingly.
• United States
26 Dec 12
That would depend on how it's written in the lease. Sometimes the tenant can spend up to $X, and anything above that is the landlord's responsibility. Perhaps the landlord is making it work for a bit but not realizing how it's not staying repaired. Unless you're in a position to make decisions that involve the landlord or the store, I would stay out of it. All you could really do is speak to the managers of your store or whatever, and let them know how much difficulty you had today to make it work.
1 person likes this
@lilybug (21107)
• United States
27 Dec 12
It may be the responsibility of the landlord, but your employer should care enough about their employees and customers enough to make sure that the bathroom is working properly. It is just irresponsible on the part of your employer to let this continue. Either they need to get the landlord to fix it properly or take it upon themselves.
1 person likes this
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
26 Dec 12
In a matter like this, whether or not it's really the landlord's responsibility, the tenant should do something to get it completely fixed because this is a business not a home. It looks bad on the business like you said. Now the landlord should have to pay for the fixed toilet, but then that's a whole other court case I'd say.
1 person likes this
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
29 Dec 12
I wou ld be tempted tio tell the landlord that if he cannot fix the toilet properly, I would hire a plumber and withhold that amount from next month's rent. However, you might want to consult an attorney.
@SamShima (71)
• Nigeria
12 Feb 13
It depends on the contractual agreement. If the landlord and tenant agreed on who should fix it, then it is that. All the same, somebody's business should be everybody's business.
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
26 Dec 12
I would think that should be clearly defined one ones rental lease. Most of the time here, its the businesses responsibility. As eighter clients of employees use the bathrooms. The manager or owner should know this. Lets hope they get it fixed soon.
1 person likes this
• United States
26 Dec 12
Hmm some things are a little different with business properties, but many things are the same. It is the landlord's responsibility to ensure that the basic parts of the house are in working order. I think that if your company hasn't done so, they should document how often the toilet breaks and how often it is fixed to be able to show the landlord that this is a recurring problem and is reflecting poorly on your business. He should replace the toilet or whatever part is causing the problem. This is probably cheaper than having him come to fix it every few days. If your landlord doesn't take care of the property, there is always the option to take the matter up with the courts, but this is not desirable for anyone if you can come to the solution on your own.
1 person likes this
• Canada
27 Dec 12
I think if the toilet, or a part of the apartment, or office, is in need of repair, it's up to the landlord. the easiest way to decixde this is this. Was it in the apartment or office when I moved in? If so, it's up to the landlord! Did I bring it in myself? (Furnature, television, cable, phone, electricity services under the name of the person or company) then it's my responsibility.
@MandaLee (3756)
• United States
26 Dec 12
Dear Ricki, Merry Christmas! I think it is the responsibility of the business to get a plumber to fix the toilet properly. Not having a restroom work properly has the potential to be bad for business.
@zearah (5381)
• Philippines
26 Dec 12
I can perfectly relate to this one.Currently, I am living in a rented accommodation villa.I feel convenient and comfortable at first because I found peace in here but when I started to use the comfort room it is no longer comfortable due to slow flush.Our manager is trying to give us the most comfortable living but the landlord seems to be very unconsiderate.
@prashu228 (37526)
• India
26 Dec 12
Hi rick i think the landlord should take the responsibility to solve your problem completely if he's not doing so make an agreement him that you will solve it completely by spending your own money and reduce it later from the rent you gonna pay . i think this solution may work. Happy new year in advance
@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
27 Dec 12
Depends on the agreement. Sometimes it is the responsibilities of the landlord if the rental fee is high, most often times to avoid hassle and stoppage from business the tenant should take the responsibilities of the repair and reimburse the expenses through deduction from the pay rental for the next month.