This is the pits and the final End.

@Hatley (164654)
Garden Grove, California
February 10, 2013 8:38pm CST
Okay I thought that finally I had helped the homeless young woman and she was in where it would be safe and warm and have food to eat.So just before dusk who do I see in the back Alley? Homeless woman and oh my gosh she is not more than 24 or 25 but what is she doing there as the sofas are gone.Did she just drop by as she is feeding the cats. Anyway she left in a few minutes so am wondering did she just come back for a visit with the alley cats,Is she okay I know this I am done finished kaput. I did all I could. If she is still on the streets thats up to her now.the rain we had yesterday washed my window clean and I saw she is just a kid.wow.Not a day past 23 so she should be working if she can find a job.
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@blackrusty (3532)
• Mexico
11 Feb 13
some people only know how to be homeless as they have done it for far too long they cant get jobs to support them self and most wont rent to a person that has been homeless the best thing we can do is pray for them that the life will turn around
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi blackrusty yes I guess thats best now and I can sure do that and hpe she does get help and shelter too as the nights are still cool ouside here in Southern California. I do worry about her as I did not know before how young she really is. the rains cleaned my window and I could see she much younger than I thought she was. I will p;ray for her tonight hp;ing she is okay.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi aain I c o uld not get down to her as i am physically handicapped but I did all I could on the phone and I hope she is just visiting the cats as she only stayed a few minutes then left.
• Mexico
11 Feb 13
well you have done your best and good luck to her
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@cutepenguin (6457)
• Canada
11 Feb 13
It's hard to help people. Sometimes it takes several people helping before a person actually manages to turn their life around. And maybe she was just visiting the cats, which would have been a kind thing for her to do. You did your best, but you can't save everyone, sadly.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi cutepenguin it is indeed and I hope she really did just comeback to fee the alley cats then left for where ever she is now staying. She had someplace to change clothes as she looked a bit different each day.
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• United States
11 Feb 13
I already know you can't talk with her and like everyone here has said, you did your best and that's all you can do. Since she came down to feed the cats and then left, she might be going back to where she came from, and she might be perfectly fine right now. You don't know so I wouldn't worry about it anymore. There's nothing else you can do. In order to get a job, you need an address of where you live. She might even have a part-time job that you don't know of. Since she's changing her clothes daily, I would guess she is staying somewhere, but comes back to feed the cats that kept her company while she was alone. She must be getting money from something.
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi kashmeresmycat I reallyh think she just came back to feed the cats then left for wherever she is staying. I think she had parents close by as she has gone some place when she was here each day and changed into different clothes. hope she will be okay now as I can do no more.
@aqirock (857)
• Malaysia
11 Feb 13
what a good kind of you, now is hard to find people that wanna help others that have no home, congrate to you mam.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi aqirock thanks I just hope that she was ju st visitint to feed the alley cats anmd return to her shelter and get some help to find a job. wish I could have been able to get down there and meet her but I was physically unable to do that.
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@julyteen (13258)
• Davao, Philippines
11 Feb 13
Despite of her situation still she concern about the cats if she feed on it. She's so young, a homeless person is hard for us but we don't know why they suffer about it. Supposed to be she is working at her age. Too young to roam around the streets without family to take care or to take care her. We can say alot of people like her in our streets. Feeding their kids with very dirty faces and seems no food to eat.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi julyteen I have an idea she has family near by as each time I had seen her lately she was wearing some different items of clothing. so maybe she has had a falling out with her parents., But what parent would send a young woman out on the streets with no place to sleep? How can a parent be that brutal?she has to have a lot of good in her to feed the stray alley cats.I hjop;e she is stayhing someplace where she will get help.
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@julyteen (13258)
• Davao, Philippines
11 Feb 13
I can't imagine why her parents allow her to round the your place with anybody with her. She still young and she must enjoy the days of being youth. I have a siblings age 17 but I never allow her to go anywhere without my permission.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi j uly if she had a falling out with her parents I say shame on them as shes still young and sleeping in a back alley is not a great thing to do as other not good people could have hurt her so she was very lucky.No parent should just abandon their children,. Hows life with your sweet baby son: get enough sleep? lol
@allknowing (65211)
• India
11 Feb 13
As they say some like to roll in the mud and that is their life. The only sad thing here is you spent your emotions on the wrong one. Spare it for the needy Hately!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hoi allknowing no I really do not think thats the wayh she is as she has to have someone who is family close her as she has changed some of her clothes every time Ii see her. ol I need to tell everyone I did not go down tot her as I am physically handicapped and cannot walk that far.weird as it is while she was under my window in order to get back there I would have to walk two blocks just to get to her.although she was just few feet from our building as thats the only way in to that parking section.because I could not walk that far is why I used my phone to get her help.Please my name is Hatleyh.
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@allknowing (65211)
• India
11 Feb 13
O.K. Your name is Hatleyh!
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@allknowing (65211)
• India
11 Feb 13
But she insists her name is Hatleyh and so let it be!
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@saundyl (9690)
• Canada
11 Feb 13
You have done all you can and the fact that you tried is wonderful. If she's refused help there's nothing one can do. Hopefully she was just back to visit the kitties!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi saundyl I think so too as i am hoping she just came back to feed'the alley cats and left for wherever she is staying. I have a feeling she had a fight either with her parents or a boy friend as she has gone someplace all the time to change her clothes. I can do no more now.
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@saundyl (9690)
• Canada
12 Feb 13
:( Its too bad one gets left to wonder!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
hi saundyl yes as I would dearly love to knmow just what her circumstances were. perhaps I should have asked her to come up to my room but would she have come as when others stopped to talk to her she left at once. well woulda coulda are past so all I can do is wonder.
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• United States
11 Feb 13
There is something else you can do next time you see her. you could go out there and talk to her and you will be able to feel better about her being on the street. you might be shocked to know something she tells you.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
gifts don't you think if I was physically able to get down there to her I would have done so? I am physically handicapped although I dislike having to admit it; I am using a walker and I can walk maybe a block and my legs give out.In order to get to that stupid alley thats just behind us I wo uld have to go two blocks and cut into the shopping center and walk back and I just cannot do that. It really grieves me and that s why I was using the telephone to get someone to go down there and talk to her.If I called down to her I was pretty well sure she would run off as when others stopped and talked to her she went off at once. I have a hunch since I saw she is really young that shes had a falling out with her parents as every time I have seen her she has changed some item of clothes. Now if I had a daughter like that I would not send her away but work something out so she would be staying with me or getting an apartment with some help but I am talking about when I was young., now I am totally no good to anyone and seeing her has really made me feel down tonight. I will not cry as that does not help but I wish God would help that child as she is so young yet.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi gifts and allison I had wished that the rules here were not so strict as we c annot let anyone stay overnight in our rooms besides ourselves. It hurt to see her sleeping ou int he cold whil I was getting ready for bed in my nice warm bed.Allison Gifts is so good to people they sometimes take advantage of her but its wonderful to be that way and she has made good friends that way too.
@rosekiss (30273)
• Eugene, Oregon
11 Feb 13
What is so sad is some people choose to live that way. I really don't understand why someone would choose to be homeless versus living in a home, but they do. I know I could never ever do that, nor would I want to. There isn't much you can do if she doesn't want the help. You did your part, and you will be rewarded for that someday. It is up to here now, how she chooses to live. There are just way to many people out there that are homeless and shouldn't be, but not a lot anyone can do that is for sure. Take care, Hatley, and have a good day.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi rosekiss I do not think she chose that way and really someone did pick her up so I think at least hope she was just there to feed the cats then going back to a shelter where she can get some help. Maybe get a job the economy is terrible here in Southern Calif as we are second highest jobless people which is sure nothing to be proud of.The government does need to do more for homeless people as we are not a poor country.
@tash01 (2032)
• Jamaica
11 Feb 13
You have done all that you can,and try your very best to help.It's seems has she choose to be on the street,an she have family near by.But I hope and pray that,a family member will see her an come to her rescue. Reading your previous comments,if every time you see her she is in a different clothing. Maybe Family member are someone who she stayed with live near by,hope that she will be ok.
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@JohnRok1 (2051)
11 Feb 13
I'm just wondering ... Is she having to hide from someone?
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi john you know as skittish as she was that thought had crossed my mind. I wish to God I had been able to physically go down there to her and talk to he r but I cannot walk very far ev even with my walker and to get into that alley is not easy as you would have to walk several blocks just to getinto the complex then get bak into the back alley. lol well I can only pray sh is okay/
@JohnRok1 (2051)
11 Feb 13
I know it's a long walk to get to her, but, as you say, it's just under your window. Can't you just save yourself that distance: get a rope, hang it from your window, and climb down to her? Or if you can't get a rope, tie your sheets together to make one? Actually, a serious suggestion does occur to me: You could lower a note to her by string from your window. The approach might appeal to her. Or might mock golden hair instead of string be even better (à la Rapunzel or Mélisande)?
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi John oh she left just as I opened my window to c all to her. oddly each time someone has stopped to talk to her she had rushed away. I think maybe she was hiding from someone maybe a wife batterer husband or her parents had a scrap with her and s he stormed out. As when she was down there she would leave all day and come back dressed in different clothes. i hope she did go vback to a shelter wher she can ger some real help .a serious suggestion whynot whinte hair as oits toughter lol
@celticeagle (118276)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Feb 13
Hopefully she was just back to feel the alley cats. You did what you could to help her. You can only do so much. She is young and may not be in a place to really take help yet. SOmetimes people have to reach a very low place before they will take the help given or offered. You should feel good about yourself that you did what you did and hope for the best. Hard to do, I know.
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi celtic I do wish I had been physically able to go down there and talk to her but as I told gifts did she not realize if I had been able to do that I would have gone to her.I hate to admit I have problems getting around but I do.thats whey I used my telephone to get help to her. now all I can do is hope she was just visiting. I really wonder she has to have someone around here close as each time I have seen her she has changed some of her clothes. maybe her parents and her had a fight ansd kicked her out but she looked so young and anyone who will feed the ally cats when she herself is in trouble has to have a lot of good in them.,
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@celticeagle (118276)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Feb 13
Can you maybe write her a note and have someone take it to her? I know what you mean about not getting around well cause I am the same way.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi celtic I do get so tired of not being able to get around as before I could at least go for short walks but now i am too darned dependent on that blasted walker.She was only there long enough to feed the cats then she left.i hoe she has a p lace to stay now.
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@inertia4 (27674)
• United States
11 Feb 13
Honestly that is sad to be that young and homeless. Who know what her story really is. I feel for all the homeless. But I cannot do much to help them. And always keep this in mind, one wrong thing that could happen in our life, we could be where they are. I understand that you are upset after helping. But maybe she is mentally screwed up and thats why she does not have a job or a place to stay.
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
inertia five years ago I was a happy woman sharing a 2 bedroom apartment with my son. He had had to take a pay cut as the company that hired him was having financial problems and he thought seriously about finding a more secure job but hated the job seeking hassle. Well all of a sudden they laid him off and we used my retiremend funds and hiss savings trying to keep the rent paid and utilities but the rent had doubled from where we were before and his waged did not keep up with it. So we were evicted made homeless so I do know what others go through as I am here as a result of that and finally my son has a a full time job but at fifteen an hour not thirty he was getting as a computer programmer. but he told me a job now is a job and he did not want to be jobless another minute.so I t ry to help anyone who looks homeless.
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@inertia4 (27674)
• United States
12 Feb 13
Thats sad, really. But your son is doing the right thing. He's right, a job is just a job. These days there is no more loyalty to employees. But at least he is working and making okay money. It keeps him floating. Thats important. I feel bad for the homeless like I said. But that young girl might have had some major issues is all I am saying.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
hi inertia s ince I could not talk to her she mayh well have and I am sure she had someone closeby as she came back each afternon with different clothes on so also she had some money as she bought cat food for the alley cats. She was so yhong an realy pretty so I worried for her safety at night out there in that alleyh. Most of the Vietnamese I have met are really peaceful kind people but one does not know who might prowl around late at night.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Feb 13
There was probably not enough room in the shelters, so she is back out on the streets. I heard things are quite bad down there. I do not know if she can find a job, but she could be gathering cans. But I do think a lot of people just want well paying jobs. Trouble is that some jobs require a permanent address. And if she is homeless, she does not have one. Or she could be one of those eccentrics who prefer living on the streets.
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi suspenseful it could be she also was ju st out to feed the catrs anthen went back to a shelter. some shelters here dco not let homeless sta y during the d ay so you leave at 8am and return at 4pml Most jobs here in Calilfornia do require an address.But most agencies for homeless singles help them find work then shelter them for a certan period to time. I am jhoping she was just there to feed the c ats then went back to the shelter and helpl the jobless rate here in Calif. is second highest in the nation.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
12 Feb 13
She probably is a cat lover. I do hope she finds a job. It must be terrible out there in California. I remember years ago when California was booming. So high is the unemployment rate down there?
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
his suspenseful yhes its really bad as we are number two in the nation for jobless people. My son is now working full time but not as computer programmer at 30 an hour bu t as an electronics repairman at 15 an hour so he took it as it was a job he knew how to do and he had been out of work for months. He should get a raise too soon so that will help. The homeless girl has not returned so am really hoping she has got some help.
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• United States
11 Feb 13
Without you talking to her, it is all mere speculation as to what the situation actually is... as well as her age. There are various things that keep people on the streets--including mental illness. Perhaps, she is back out on the street. Then again, she may have simply been visiting her feline friends.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
wilson I did not mention the reason I did not just walk down there as its two blocks to ge into that drive arou nd whild it s right under my window. I am physically handicapped and cannot walk that far and i use a walker since my fall. my balance is shot.,So thats why I used my telephone to try to get help to herOff course its speculation but how else could I do it. nobody else here wanted to get involved. I was afraikd if I just c alled dwsnto her she would rujn off. As I had deen her run off whebn someone tried to talk to her.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
I was afraid if I just called down to her she would run off.As I had seen her run off when someone tried to talk to her. I feel badly about this whole thing.
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• United States
11 Feb 13
I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying that it is difficult to know the specifics without a conversation. I sort of figured that you had some limitations that kept you from going over to speak with her. I really am hoping that she simply came back to care for the cats. It is possible that she feels a kinship with them and was drawn back there for their sakes.
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• India
12 Feb 13
Mommy You have done a nice great and good job, god will reward you for this.I too help many without keeping and thing in return. Regards.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
hi professor thanks for the kind words. We were once homeless and we were helped so when I saw her I knew i had to try to do something to help her too.I never help anyone expecting any thing in return as just knowing I helped someone to get better some way is true payment also I belong to the pay it forward people although I do not pay any dues any more I still do pay it forward so if someone thanks me and offers a reward I will not accept but will say pass it forward and help someone else yourself.
@carmelanirel (20979)
• United States
11 Feb 13
Oh that is sad, I wonder if she is one of many who just couldn't get a job? Then again, it seems some jobs are starting to open up here, but at this point,I would have to quit classes to get a full time job, I might be able to for a part time, but then I'd have to take my whole paycheck to pay someone to cook and clean, so I wonder if that is even worth it? Anyways, back to the girl, I hope she find a job, but if she is homeless, she will need help as in getting cleaned up for an interview.
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi carm here you have to have a real address before you can apply for any job.I think she may have run away from home after a fight as she d es go someplace and get new clothes. I am thinking perhaps a parent put her out after an argu ment and maybe too she was working but not making enough yhet to get into an apartment. But someone did pick her up in a v ery official looking car so hoping she is still in some shelter. I really could not go down to her as I cannot walk that far as yo u have to go into the shopping center then double back to get into the blasted alley behind our own building here.I just cou ld not do it physically.
@urbandekay (18312)
11 Feb 13
In the land of the fast food Jane lies starving all the best, urban
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi urbandekay yes indeed and sadly there are others just like her b ut I do think she did get into a shelter so am not sure why she showed up except to feed the alley cats. I really was too badly physically handicapped to try to get to her so I did by phone what I could do.wish it had been different.
@toyota4k (1212)
• Philippines
11 Feb 13
You did your best and it's none of your fault if she didn't like your place.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi toyota Yes I think now I must give up and hoper shje came bakc jut to feed the cats then left to go bnack to some shelter as I just cannot do anymopre for her. I wish I had been physically able to talk to her but I was not. sad. heres praying she is in a g ood place with some help.
• China
11 Feb 13
You were really soft-hearted and did a good deed.Now that She has gone to place for her,why did she come back and linger in the back alley?
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 13
hi chang I just do not know why she came back unless it really w as just t o feed the cats. She did bet some help so hop;e they still are helping her. I co uld not physically go down there because I cannot walk very far without my legs giving out on me. thus I uded my phone to try and get her help.