Can stupid people really talk to smart people?

Penrith, Australia
February 17, 2013 10:21pm CST
I think it is quite difficult. Especially when they are on different levels. I have a friend, he's much younger than i am but were at different levels. Talking to him drains me and i feel so tired just responding to him. Its either he is too smart or I'm too stupid. I think i should surround myself with smart people so that i become smart too. Is it even possible?
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@vandana7 (48749)
• India
18 Feb 13
I think they can talk...but they might fox the smart folks...cause smart folks dont expect such company. lol Seriously...I have noticed most not stupid smart folks are humble enough and would go out of their way to make the life of stupid one easy. So yes, they will allow the stupid people to talk and even pretend that the stupid one is intelligent enough to be in their company.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
That's right, smart people would rather talk to other smart people as it is not really smart at all to waste your time doing unproductive things. Unless of course it is a charity case and they were trying to be considerate, but i dont their interactions will last very long.
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@vandana7 (48749)
• India
19 Feb 13
Usually, they let the stupid ones talk and when the person leaves, they are not condescending...instead they devote their time on useful things. It is like they have accepted their superiority...and find it a waste of time discussing others stupidity. My observation...
• Penrith, Australia
25 Feb 13
That's right, i observe that too!! And smart people are usually just people who listen a lot. They dont waste their time in making the stupid person feel bad and they're not wasting their energy in blurting out non-useful words. It must be so hard to be smart.
@matersfish (6283)
• United States
18 Feb 13
I find it difficult to speak to individuals who are just brutally foolish. I wouldn't call it dumb or stupid. Well, I mean, maybe I would if I were trying to be impolite. But if I'm just being honest, I find some people to simply be so stuck in their little bubble that knowledge just can't penetrate it. They only know what they know and refuse to entertain anything else. It's difficult to speak with these people, primarily because they don't realize how "stupid" they're coming across to anyone. Stupid people never believe they're stupid; they seem to be only capable of viewing intelligence up to their level. Things that don't make sense aren't challenged in order to make sense, and thus they go about their lives just bringing everything down to their particular level instead of trying to rise up to another. In other words, stupid people tend to believe that everyone else is stupid -- or at least not as smart as they are. I'm not talking about mentally challenged people here; I mean those folks you'll find at a place like this, spouting nonsense as if it's wisdom, none the wiser that what they write reads like a lunatic's manifesto before bombing something. But as to what you're talking about in particular, I wouldn't think you're too stupid in this situation. The stupid person isn't going to admit that anything's above their head. That you see this other guy just talks above you and thus you need to tighten up, then you're not stupid. It seems like this guy just has different knowledge than you do. Don't worry; everyone goes through this. I feel like I'm 10 years old when my editor is tearing into me about subjunctive verbs and subordinate clauses. And I feel like I should still be sucking on a bottle when I talk to a buddy of mine in the physics field who's currently out for his doctorate. Then again, I feel like I'm Professor Fish at times when some around here pervert logic and throw their voodoo at a point to magically dissolve it. So it all evens out. Find a subject you excel at. And work to better yourself if it's something you want to do.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
That is right, a stupid person's mind is closed to what they hear if it does not agree with what or how they wish to live. They should no better but they choose not to. You have a strong point in proving that maybe none of us are stupid but then we only chose to focus our brain and knowledge towards different things. Therefore, both people may be inclined doing different things, both are equally smart, just in different ways. It is difficult though, because when one becomes too focused on a certain field, they start to find other people who aren't in their level to be boring As they prefer to stay in their narrow range or field of higher thinking, if they are in completely different areas, they wouldn't stay interested with each other very long.
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@mythociate (11680)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
3 Mar 13
For instance: I have a friend who claims to be a "devout Christian," but who thus reads THE WHOLE BIBLE as if it were ALL 'written in stone by the lightning-finger of G*d.' That particularly shows in his strongest beliefs: that we're "sealed for salvation to the day of redemption", and that "man must work to earn his bread" (the latter just an observation Paul made on the way life worked in his time, the former just 'happy-talk'---'slapping that "Jeebuss-bandaid" over the human-condition'). He's not 'stupid in the way fools are' (i.e. choosing the wrong way because it pays off first), but he's 'stupid because he thinks he knows better'
• Penrith, Australia
12 Mar 13
If you put it that way then it must mean that to be smart is to be dumb as well. Is that right?
@cupkitties (6575)
• United States
18 Feb 13
That would be dependent upon the "stupid" and the "smart" individuals. I talk to intelligent people all the time. I'm able to understand them perfectly and they don't treat me like I'm dumb or need to dumb anything down because they speak sense in the first place. Then there are those smart ones who trying to get what they're saying is equal to deciphering some ancient code. They like to complicate the simplest of events.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
Maybe thats because you're an intellectual as well. There can be other reasons but that is my strongest bet. I think that if a person is really smart they shouldn't make anyone feel stupid on purpose at least. Its just that i am competitive and i wanted to be able to give responses at the same level as he does in order to keep a good conversation. But it is just so exhausting. I dont think I'd like to talk to those kinds of people who are so complicated. They will give me headaches.
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• United States
19 Feb 13
I'm definitely not. It's just that it is possible to have a meaningful conversation without all the bells and whistles, but some of those people just can't get through the day without them. For some of them, its also a competitiveness thing.
@sid556 (31030)
• United States
18 Feb 13
I don't as a rule look at people as stupid or smart. Some are more knowledgable in some areas then others. I can 99% of the time find a common ground with someone to carry on a decent conversation with. I suppose that would be because I don't consider myself a genius. I feel like I can learn something from almost anyone. Of course there are those ones that I have nothing at all in common with and I just can't relate to their thinking at all. My best conversations with people have nothing at all to do with intellect. I have a friend that is mentally challenged. I have some amazing conversations with him. I have some great conversations with my 2 yr old grandson. Maybe some people have a problem talking to "stupid" people but maybe that is just because they've labeled them stupid rather than just people.
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@vandana7 (48749)
• India
18 Feb 13
I think everybody is stupid at one time or the other...it depends upon their frame of mind at that point of time..and the extent of preoccupation...and when the so called smart people do something stupid...it looks more stupid.. than when a stupid person does something stupid, right blondie?
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@vandana7 (48749)
• India
18 Feb 13
Yeah...I find what this baby at my place pretty dumb...but I remember, I have been there and done that..lol
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@sid556 (31030)
• United States
18 Feb 13
Brownie...Don't you have somewhere that you need to be???
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@allknowing (39155)
• India
18 Feb 13
A perfect combination is a listener and a talker. If both want to talk and both want to listen can that friendship ever last? Try this out. Both could be smart or both could be stupid but if one listens and the other talks that could make both happy.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
That's right. It seems difficult though as smart people prefer to stay within their own narrow range or field of higher thinking. That's why if a child is smart they tend to accelerate him to the next grade so that he doesn't get bored with school. It will be hard to keep both parties interested in each other and the topics they want to talk about.
@allknowing (39155)
• India
18 Feb 13
I have a friend. We phone each other every day. She has none of the interests that I have. But she is a good listener. She likes to hear about what I did with my camera, with my pc, my pets, my cooking and so on. Made for each other. Right?
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• Penrith, Australia
25 Feb 13
That is so cool, you're right its in the willingness of each other to listen. Not many people can do that, not many people can really listen. I admire those who can. When I'm talking to someone and they're just telling their stories, i just let them talk but then in reality, I'm just waiting for them to pause so that i can tell them my much cooler story haha,
@camomile07 (1424)
• Germany
18 Feb 13
A conversation between a stupid and a smart person might be difficult, as the smart person maybe doesn't know how to handle with the other person. Otherwise, do you really think that the stupid person is aware of his or her condition? So this person definitly will talk and try to maintain the conversation, even if the smart person doesn't know what to answer or how to react.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
Sorry camomile but I'm kind of lost here. Correct me if I'm wrong but the smart person is the one who cannot react to the stupid person? I have a feeling though that everyone who will respond on here is smart, somehow then.
• Germany
18 Feb 13
Maybe I gave a different (or a wrong?) sense to the word "smart". Under smart I understand "clever, intelligent, astute". But, I would like to know what did you want to say with your discussion, so please explain yourself. If I did understand you wrong, I am sorry about answering wrong.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
No no, you didnt take it wrongly. And your answer wasnt wrong as well, sorry if i came accross that way to you. I just wanted to clear up how a smart person wont be able to understand a stupid person. Does it mean that a person can be so stupid that they cannot be understood?
@edvc77 (2144)
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
I think it is more difficult to talk with people who are narrow minded and have dirty minds. For example, you are talking about something and the one whom you are speaking has different interpretation. To make it worst, their thoughts are dirty. I'm kind of fed up with these kind of people rather than stupid people.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I think I'd get really annoyed by them too, but then, being narrow-minded, doesn't that make them stupid?
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@sid556 (31030)
• United States
18 Feb 13
narrow minded people are not stupid but they are set in their thinking on certain things maybe due to religion and/or upbringing. I don't consider them stupid but unless I'm in a mood to debate, I do stay away from certain topics with them. Stupid is not a term that I would use for them at all. being "stupid" does not mean "everyone who doesn't think as we do".
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
that is very good Sid. You changed my point of view on this one. Narrow minded people probably just have strong beliefs and will stick to them in terms of politics and religion but they can still listen to people when other topics are involved, certainly, it isn't stupidity. Although i think the person edvc was talking about, well, i think those people aren't the smart ones in a sense that they respond inappropriately to topics opened to them and the variety of their responses are only limited to dirty thoughts.
• India
18 Feb 13
Hi Nursefrai. Well it is kind of difficult. I would suggest you to talk about topics in which both of you are comfortable with. This way it can be more balanced discussion. And yes, if you go around talk with smart people you will also become smart. At least this is what I think. Have a nice day !!! SuperShames
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I guess you can talk to smart people and you can be smart too. But then sometimes its just so difficult to be fomfortable and to enjoy a conversation when you're trying to be smart too. I admit that i actually feel exhausted when i see people who are really smart and know a lot of stuff. I guess in the end, you talk to people that make you happy. Is that statement even right? .
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• India
15 Mar 13
Hi Nursefrai. Well that happens sometimes. Though I consider myself intellect enough but I do not prefer having conversations on complicated issues while hanging out. So even I feel uncomfortable in such company. In leisure time I only like to talk on simple and funny parts of life. Have a nice day !!
• Penrith, Australia
16 Mar 13
I think I'd like that too. Especially when you're with friends, you'd rather have a relaxing leisure time talking about light things, things that dont stress you,
@kenshin2143 (1882)
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
I do not really believe there are stupid people. Maybe some are just slow learners or just having some weird stuffs they do and believe in. But referring to your definition, I think its pretty cool considering that the smart one will be open-minded. In my experience, stupid people have something interesting in the way they talk and also the contents of it.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
That's right but then i think if a smart person tries to lower down to the stupid persons level, there is a probability that they'd get bored and their relationship (whatever it is) will not last very long if the smart person doesn't find any benefit from putting up with a stupid person.
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• Philippines
18 Feb 13
If that's the case then you can't help but ignore that scenario because those two are really two different people.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
The smart and the stupid are two different people? Do you mean to say that they cannot relate because if their differences?
@meumeu25 (917)
• United Arab Emirates
18 Feb 13
Hi, For me as long as a person understands what we are talking about or capable to admit that they have no idea about the issue at hand, I wouldn't find him/her stupid, but if a person pretends to know everything and it's very obvious that they don't, then that will only make me think he/she is stupid.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
Good point. If a person cannot relate to something and he isn't able to give responses related to what you are talking about then he probably isn't as smart as he is. And if a person is stupid, he wouldn't admit that as he would try to prove to everyone that he is not stupid but it doesn't work.
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@elmiko (6642)
• United States
18 Feb 13
lol, maybe your the smart one and hes the dumb one. i'm just guessing though. of course they can talk to one another.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I do not think so as i was trying to be competitive in delivering witty statements and he blurts them out easy. I am able to respond to them okay but it is just so exhausting. Of course i would try my best to prove that I'm not stupid but its just so hard.
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• India
18 Feb 13
Hi friend, all the smart person is not smart always as well as all the stupid persons is always don't be in the same sort. Situation and presence of mind will make a stupid in to a smart person, so there is nothing wrong in having a conversation with a stupid person, some times we may get some unknown information from stupid persons too.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
Well yeah, we can't have averything, and we can't be good at everything either, some people can as cell in one thing while other people can excel in other things. I'm kind if lost on how presence of mind makes a stupid person into a smart person, do you mean like when they are willing to listen they become smart persons?
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• Poland
18 Feb 13
It doesn't matter if your smart or not. You can talk to people much more intelligent than you about a lot of things. If you are having difficulties with talking to your friend then maybe you just don't have a lot in common and that would be a real problem in your communication. Just try to talk about subjects you are confident with.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I think it is easier for a stupid person to talk to a smart person but not vice versa as the smart person has a greater view of things. The difficult thing is getting the smart person to be interested in the stupid person and not get bored with each other,
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@sender621 (14970)
• United States
18 Feb 13
I believe that people are people no matter what their education has made of them. Sometimes people who are totally different have much more to talk about to each other than people of the same backgrounds. Feeling stupid or feeling smart, everyone can talk to each other. It is what makes the world go around.
• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I do my best thinking that I've rarely met anyone who was so stupid that there was not something they knew that I didn't know. But I had to listen with a mind open to the possibility of learning. If I didn't learn I usually went away thinking I had failed. This time i think i failed big time. As not only had i not been able to relate, i just feel a tipsy bit stupider than usual. And the guy seemed to walk away on his own, lost interest.
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• India
18 Feb 13
I believe that we are all same as all have brain and no way to call anybody as stupid one. we are just diffrent from each other as how we use our brain. you can be smarter of talking with samrt one then why your frined should not? then you also can make him smarter what now he is. maybe you and your fried do not understand each other but for that to not call stupid or smart as we are all same for having brain.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
You have a point as i dont think there really is a fixed definition for intelligence. Maybe it is just labels used to divide people but one cannot help in feeling bad when another person makes them look like they are mentally inferior.
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@Cutie18f (9566)
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
There are really stupid people. It's a fact and I don't bother talking to them for a long time because it is impossible. There are people who really are slow in understanding certain things.
• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I know how it feels. Most smart people do not have the patience to get in the level of stupid people. Maybe we need interpreters for that, but then again, who would want that kind of job?
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• Philippines
18 Feb 13
Maybe it's not stupidity but your knowledge is way superior than him. You said that he is younger than you and probably that is the reason why you can't really relate to each other. I guess you have to be more patient and understanding. You level yourself to his position so you could make a good conversation. In a conversation you need to know what your partner is capable of discussing with. Like you can't talk about part of a computer or analytic geometry to a grade school student. On your question, somehow if you surround yourself you become smarter. Why? Because you hear a lot of information, you get to know how they think, speak, and it makes you work harder to be able to get to their level. So probably that is the reason. But merely just going with them and not doing anything will make no significant result.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I agree with you on most parts of this. Like a truly intelligent person has the ability to know how to relate to someone who may not have as much mental ability. If an intelligent-enough person cannot find something in common with someone he sees as stupid then that person isn't as smart as he thinks he is. But do you mean that the smart person is the one who cannot understand the stupid person? It is possible too because as I've observed, smart people rarely talk because they spend most of their time listening and absorbing more information.
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@toyota4k (1213)
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
Nothing is impossible. When you talk to stupid people, make and show how smart you are otherwise you yourself is stupid. When you talk to smart people, be as smart too.
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
I think it tends to make things quite difficult, honestly. I mean, you start throwing all of that knowledge and and concepts with words at them and you can feel that theyre getting confused at everything you say and its not getting productive at all. I'd even feel bad about making them feel a bit stupid if i carry on like so.. That said, it's easier to come down to their level, I think. Perhaps. But also that is just so hard.
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
there are no stupid person, slow learner maybe... and you cannot be smart just by surrounding your self with smart people, you may not understand each other , you simple have to change your approach into something the person can understand. and have patience...
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• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
Thats right, Stupid people will form a group and will try to isolate if there is any intelligent person around. Same goes with group of intelligent people, they don't care for stupid person around them. Smart people have little long term patience with stupid people unless something is to be gained from the relationship. Smart people are more than willing to play to stupidity, encourage continued stupidity and have dinner with stupidiyt .if it furthers their goals. If there is nothing further to be gained, they have no time for them. I think it is easier for a stupid person to talk to a smart person and not vice versa.
@hereandthere (13705)
• Philippines
18 Feb 13
i think a lot of us can't completely express ourselves, and it takes an active listener with a curious and open mind to help our ideas come out, in bits and pieces, until together you complete the story or picture. on the other hand, i think a truly smart person is someone who can break down and explain whatever the situation or topic is into simple concepts or simple words so that it's understood. they will also share experiences if needed to correct any misconceptions. lastly, there are also people with a lot native intelligence even with minimal schooling, and they also have life experiences so different than mine, so i always end up learning new things from them also. i guess what i'm saying is, we all have something to learn from each other and we all have something that can help each other.
• Penrith, Australia
18 Feb 13
You have a point as if a rocket scientist talks to a cosmologist. We know that both of these people are smart because of what they do. But then i think they would still have a narrow view for each other and they wouldn't stay interested for long. They are both smart but they chose to focus their smartness i different ways. I know a person too who havent gone to school but is now a publicist. The problem now is keeping their interest in talking,