Would a minimum word limit help to eliminate some 1 or 2 line posts on MyLot?

@poehere (10226)
French Polynesia
November 11, 2015 12:20pm CST
I was wondering how people thought about having a minimum word limit for discussions. I know on forums or even on other writing site they require a minimum word count of say 100 words. I know most sites demand a lot more but this is just an example. If the admin could configure the text box to not post discussion with fewer than 50 to 100 words this might help to control a lot of the post here. This would help a lot of people from having to report 1 line posts that are mindless and against the rules. What do you think? Would you be willing to implement a minimum word count of say 50 to 100 words? I know each of us can write at least 50 words in a post to make it substantial and interesting. Image - personal image
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@PhredWreck (6141)
12 Nov 15
I write a post. I write 50 words. I not say much. I not know what speak. Do other have same problem? Can offer way to write post more than 50 word? How to top discussion? How to hot discussion? myLot pay me? How mylot pay me? When myLot pay me? Just an example of why it really wouldn't work...
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@GardenGerty (79198)
• Marion, Kansas
12 Nov 15
I am actually reminded of when kids were punished for infractions in school. We had five hundred word themes, or we had 1000 words or 1500. It became no problem to repeat the same stuff over and add lots of 'and' and 'the' comments. Which did not punish or discipline or teach good writing habits. It only served to teach how to cheat. In the old myLot it was often suggested, but not written in the rules, that a discussion with about four lines was the optimal length for earning. People would pad that as well.
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12 Nov 15
@GardenGerty It should also be noted, for purposes of myLot, that a proper one or two-line discussion can actually be quite meaningful.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Yes I got it and I can see this. I see a ton of them and you are right on this. What ideas do you have to stop this mess. I guess it won't help much if this is implemented it will only make a person put all of his questions into one post instead of 10
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@owlwings (36096)
• Cambridge, England
12 Nov 15
Having a minimum word limit only indirectly addresses the real problem, which is discussions which have no substance or fall into the other categories already covered by the Guidelines. I don't, therefore, see any value in introducing what would be, in essence, an irrelevant and unnecessary rule. If you read the Guidelines carefully, I think you will see that everything which such a limit would discourage is adequately covered already.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Yah I did read the guideline the first day I was here before I ever posted or knew what this site was about. I signed up and spent a few days looking it over and seeing how it worked before I posted or even commented on anything. I started off commenting on the site before I ever wrote up a discussion. I guess I am strange and do things differently and not like others. But I would rather know what I am doing than post a lot of useless questions that are already covered in the guidelines.
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@GardenGerty (79198)
• Marion, Kansas
12 Nov 15
@poehere Some of the issue is from people who are desperate for any penny and do not think that waiting will help them earn.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
@GardenGerty Yes right understand.
@Rollo1 (16768)
• Boston, Massachusetts
11 Nov 15
No, myLot has survived for a long time without minimums and I don't think they're all that helpful. Discussions can be short but substantive, or they can be long and say nothing. I like the lack of limits and minimums.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
Thanks for you input. I was trying to think of a way to at least have some discussion that weren't a few words that a lot of people could comment on.
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@cacay1 (21224)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
27 Nov 15
AT least , there is a proof from you.Thank you.
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@boiboing (11281)
• Northampton, England
11 Nov 15
People would just post rubbish to meet the limit or fill it up with emoticons.
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• United States
11 Nov 15
Exactly - those who take the easy way now would then also.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
Words count as words and when sites calculate words emotions and number or lists with dots don't count. Do you have a better idea how to stop a few of these posts? I am sure the site admin has more to do than sit there all day long deleting them. I know I don't report them but pass them by. I figured that someone else already reported them. I am sure the guys behind the site get tired of this but they are good about deleting them. People don't read and they don't follow the rules. There could be one post when a person first signs up they have to read and agree to. There is several other ideas to stop one line posts. Do you have any ideas how this could happen on here?
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
@AbbyGreenhill Word count means words and not emotions or tons of numbers. Sites count words as words and over look emotions when counting words.
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@Asylum (37552)
• Manchester, England
11 Nov 15
It could eliminate some rather simple questions that occasionally become posted, but would also result in people simply wording the discussion in a more elaborate manner.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
That might be nice. To see a different form of it and add a little spice to the discussion.
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@GardenGerty (79198)
• Marion, Kansas
12 Nov 15
Or adding gibberish. I like "word count" better than "character count", but not sure it would really solve things. Might just result in being called "my dears" more often to get to the word count. Or "youz guys". On the other hand it might eliminate some text speak abbreviations.
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@Asylum (37552)
• Manchester, England
12 Nov 15
@GardenGerty I would always be in favour of anything that reduced that annoying text speak. I will not even use that nonsense if sending a text message. The real issue is those mundane questions such as "What is your favourite colour?" etcetera. This often crops up with new members who are desperate to post a discussion and cannot think of a worthwhile topic. The only practical way to eradicate such nonsense is to simply ignore it and do not comment.
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@valmnz (10479)
• New Zealand
11 Nov 15
Whilst I personally prefer a discussion to have a little substance, I don't think there's any riles about one line posts. If they start a discussion, well, that's what it's all about. We don't have to read the short ones if we don't want to.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
Yah you are right. But when a line one post says What did you have for breakfast? I know it starts a discussion and it is on a board line of being a survey too.
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@valmnz (10479)
• New Zealand
11 Nov 15
@poehere yes, actually I think there is a rule about such posts. But, we'll never change those people. Maybe they'll learn if people don't respond to them
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
@valmnz Yes you are right. Then on top of this it takes up a lot of space and most of them end up in no responses. So what is the difference? The site either deleted them or they sit here for years without a person responding to them. Sort of wasteful to keep them around.
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@zandi458 (27950)
• Malaysia
11 Nov 15
I think mylot is trying to accommodate everyone so the reason for their flexibility. We have to consider those who are not from English speaking background.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
Yes I do. But also consider the rules in this case. A discussion has guideline and so many times they are broken because the person says something like this - good morning my friends on MyLot how are you today? Then they post it. Now that is not a discussion. You need more than 1 or 2 lines for a discussion. So 50 words is not very much at all and I know anyone can write this in no time. Even a small paragraph that has 4 lines can contain around 75 to 100 words. So what would be the problem and why would you be against this one? I think you could write 50 words easily.
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@zandi458 (27950)
• Malaysia
11 Nov 15
@poehere I am not against your suggestion. I am just sharing my views. It is up to admit to delete inappropriate posts .
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
@zandi458 No I understand this one. I just think that a lot of junk would be stopped if we just had a small word count that had to be meet that is all.
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@Porcospino (16489)
• Denmark
11 Nov 15
I think that some people would post a lot of rubbish if there was a minimum word count. If it was made in such a way that hundreds of question marks or smileys didn't count some people would just find another way to meet the limit. They would repeat the same words or sentences over and over instead of adding more details. I have seen many of those posts on sites that have a minimum word count. You can force people to write more words, but you can't force them to write quality posts.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
Maybe you're right but I have seen some rubbish in a short sentence and was thinking maybe it would improve if the person had to add a little more to what his or her thoughts were. That was all.
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@TheHorse (33974)
• Pleasant Hill, California
12 Nov 15
I'm hoping they don't have to resort to that. "Too many rules" would remind me of "that other site" that many of us are refugees from. And one can be mindless and fluffy in 100 words almost as easily as in seven or eight.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Yes you are right. I guess I could be creative in 10 words or less but it does take some thought on this one and a lot of stuff some come up with is no thought process at all.
@TheHorse (33974)
• Pleasant Hill, California
12 Nov 15
@poehere Now, I'm half tempted to come up with a pithy post in 15 words or less.
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• United States
12 Nov 15
You are so right. If I see an obvious spam post, I'll report it. Otherwise live and let live.
@Tampa_girl7 (18868)
• United States
12 Nov 15
I like that I can write as little or as much that I want.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Seems to be the majority of people here. I was just consider a way to get a few more posts with some more details that was all. Some of them are so short and you have no idea what they are talking about.
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@jstory07 (39700)
• Roseburg, Oregon
12 Nov 15
@poehere I agree with you posts should be longer than one sentence.
@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
@jstory07 Thank you so much Judy. I am tired like you to see this and I was trying to think of some ideas how it could be stopped or controlled. Seems like a few people don't think a word count is a good idea but what else can we do?
• United States
11 Nov 15
I guess that's not really up to us is it. I have no problem writing 500 words which I do on the blog I write for. Even with a min. number people will find a way to put out nonsense.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
You might be right on this one but then we don't have to read one line that has less than 10 words in it. This can stop a lot of stuff. It is only an idea and I too don't have a problems to write more. I am just trying to figure a way that would add some substance to the discussion and not scroll down and find a lot of stuff that is only one or two lines. I wonder if the site would be interested in trying this one. It could save them a lot of time deleting posts and us reporting them.
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• United States
11 Nov 15
@poehere Like I said, it's up to them.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
@AbbyGreenhill Yes I know it is up to them. But it is also nice to see what or how others feel about this. If they think it is a good idea or bad idea and if they like to support this or not.
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@dpk262006 (44233)
• Delhi, India
12 Nov 15
Actually, mylot is different from other (blogging) sites, therefore, setting the minimum word limit may not work here. It depends upon the user how s/he wants to share his thoughts. If he is capable of expressing his views in minimum words, that is fine. However, I love to read those responses/comments which have some sum and substance, irrespective of their length. Some of the mylotters are so witty that they express the entire thought in just one sentence and some of the mylotters need few lines to convey their views.
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@zandi458 (27950)
• Malaysia
12 Nov 15
@dpk262006 you said it better than me.
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@dpk262006 (44233)
• Delhi, India
12 Nov 15
@zandi458 Thanks for your kind words. I've learnt to express myself from dear friends like you.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Responses is one thing. I can answer in one line or more depending on the topic. But come on a post that says - I am new here any advice? I don't personally consider this a discussion. It is a headline and repeat in the post. They could of been a little bit more creative couldn't they?
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@jstory07 (39700)
• Roseburg, Oregon
12 Nov 15
A discussion is not a discussion with just one sentence.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
That is what I thought too on this one. I felt with 50 words a person could make it a discussion. Now tih 10 or less words like a lot of them are lately.
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@GardenGerty (79198)
• Marion, Kansas
12 Nov 15
@poehere I am not sure where you are seeing the majority of these discussions that are so short. I do not seem to run into them very much, or maybe I just ignore them when they seem like they might be that way.
@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
@GardenGerty I just saw one yesterday. I am new here any advice? That was the post. I have seen some other ones but I won't get into this. A lot of short and really short discussion have been opened lately and then if you look again about 2 hours later they seem to have been deleted. I just think that is sort of a lot of work on the part of the site but I guess this is there job and they will need to decide on how to control this or not.
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@lokisdad (2933)
• United States
12 Nov 15
I think some people do the post in parts because they think it will help them to generate income as if it was a book where you have to read the 2nd one to know what happened. I usually don't read them when they do that it irks me. IE ten ways to make eggs. I expect to read about 10 ways to make eggs they might only tell you 5 and then make a part 2. When they do that I just don't read the post that have more than one part. I like not having a minimum but some people need it to avoid seeing the post like you mentioned with mindless stuff.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
I like it here because there is no word limit. You can make you discussion as short or long as you wish. But these really short ones don't say anything and I just wish there would be a way to slow them down.
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@lokisdad (2933)
• United States
12 Nov 15
@poehere I Know what you mem because of a few sometimes the majority of us end up suffering when they make new rules that affect us negatively.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
@lokisdad You are right. I don't know what to say about all of this but the proof in a lot of this post is found in no responses. You cant' make a person see how they are not getting anywhere when people don't bother to read their work
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@SIMPLYD (63936)
• Philippines
12 Nov 15
Even if you put a limit if what they will do is just beat around the bush about what they want discussed , then it's useless.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Yes everyone has the same idea on this and no mater it will get reported and deleted. so what is another idea on this one. Just continue like this and report them and move forward.
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@akalinus (11038)
• United States
2 Aug
I belonged to another paid chat site with minimum word requirements. A lot of the writing was stilted and awkward and you could just tell they were trying to reach the minimum.
@SIMPLYD (63936)
• Philippines
2 Aug
@akalinus None can compare to myLot as of now .
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@yalul070 (1785)
• Manila, Philippines
12 Nov 15
Do people here do that? One-liner posts? they probably mistook this for twitter. i don't mind a minimum number of words or characters. you're right it will help ensure the quality of the discussions. so, where do we send suggestions like this? i hope this gets to the authorities. (by the way that was a 50-word comment. still looks short. maybe 100 words is more fitting).
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
I see plus and minus in this topic. There are a lot of people who think this won't help and then there are a lot who do. Some think this will make people increase the rubbish they write while others feel it might help. So I guess it is a 50/50 idea so far and not sure if this will ever work or happen. It was just an idea and a way of bringing some of this out.
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@yalul070 (1785)
• Manila, Philippines
12 Nov 15
@poehere it will "ensure" quality insofar as you will need to take effort to start a discussion. but the guy below is also right. you can just hem together a string of 100 words and still end up with a post devoid of meaning. i don't know. has it always been like this here? if this site has been here for years and never really saw the need to impose a minimum word or character requirement, may be it's not really needed.
@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
@yalul070 Right now there is no right or wrong on this one. I guess we can't win and there is actually not a good way to ensure quality control over what a person writes.
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@cahaya1983 (5114)
• Malaysia
12 Nov 15
I think one of the things that make myLot appealing to a lot of people is because there is no word limit, so you can still post a discussion regardless of the length. I personally am more inclined to read longer posts but if someone can make a discussion on point by writing just a few lines, that's fine with me too.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
It was only an idea to try and control some of the stuff that people leave here with no real content or meaning.
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• Malaysia
12 Nov 15
@poehere Yeah I understand. It does get a little annoying sometimes when I see tons of posts from the same person within just 4-5 minutes and all of them are one liners.
@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
@cahaya1983 Yes I couldn't agree more. I am sort of getting tired of them too. I went through no responses the other day and one person stood out. They had so many posts that nobody even cared about, read, or answered. You would think if you posted this many discussion that nobody read they would get a clue by now and either delete some of them or change the way they posted on the site. But it doesn't change and it keeps piling up.
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@salonga (26291)
• Philippines
12 Nov 15
Actually myLot did not give any world limit but it does prohibit Discussions, Responses or Comments that offer little or no value, so if you found a two-liner discussion that you think falls under "little or no value" then you can always report it.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
Yes I understand this rule very well. But it still doesn't help a lot of time. I see so many discussion that are like this and I know many pass them up and some will report them. But still how can this change? What could stop this?
@allknowing (41967)
• India
12 Nov 15
Having limits would make us spend more time here. If someone chooses to post meaningless short lines they are not paid for that. or those posts could be subject to deletion.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
12 Nov 15
That is another way of looking at this. I guess no matter what there is no easy answer to this problem and no real way to stop it from happening.
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@norcal (3358)
• Nevada City, California
11 Nov 15
Is this a problem? I've only been here a few days, and have not run across many short posts. I'm thinking that, if there is not much substance to the "discussion," not many people will respond. In that case, the post would not do the person any good. It seems like that would be self regulating. I'd rather not have any more rules than necessary.
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@poehere (10226)
• French Polynesia
11 Nov 15
No I can see this one but lately there is a wave of 1 or 2 line post and more than likely you aren't seeing them because they have been reported and delted.
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