Okay Another Religious Issue~~ About Buddhism And Reincarnation

Oooooooops, sorry... typo... someday, we will all be*reincarnated.

Oh yes, I can definitely gather that you have a belief in reincarnation:)

You bring an interesting point about the Wheel of the Year, how in general how life on earth is born, then dies only to be reborn again. I've always given the Physics explanation of it which kind of states the same thing but from a science vantage point..."Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it only changes form."
Just by viewing how the universe and everything in it is recyclable is kind of proof of reincarnation..no?
I sometimes wonder if those who don't believe in reincarnation, could they be very new souls???
I myself think of myself as an old soul, don't you, who has been around quite a number of times

Yes, both explanations are quite feasible and also, yes, I believe I'm an old soul too, and I think I may have been here many times. I get feelings in certain places that make me think I'm a part of that area. It's not always in this country, but there's something there.

Brightest Blessings.

You expressed yourself very well here sudiptacallingu:)
As far as no belief in general with the Christian religion about reincarnation, from what I understand many of the references about reincarnation were eliminated in their version of the Bible. There are those various Christian sects, not all, that don't even believe animals have a soul at all, that God only gave mankind souls...how sad I think...how can an animal NOT have a soul? Maybe many people who don't believe in reincarnation in general are new souls?? Is that possible, and they have to learn the lessons of life with each lifetime?

Yes, how can an animal not have soul? Don’t know about wild animals but you just have to look into the eyes of any pet animal (specially dogs and horses) and see how they understand, respond and reciprocate to love, how they ‘feel’ their duty, how they give their lives for their owners. Man with all his ‘soul’ would never do so. I think people who don’t recognize and acknowledge the soul are not ‘new’ as such, but they are unaware of its presence. Irrespective of their religions beliefs, regular meditation will make them ‘feel and connect’ to their inner self, which is their soul. If not for anything else, they can do it as a very rewarding exercise and they will get hooked to it. I am not a very religious person, but one of the foundations of my life is ‘never hurt a person’s soul for soul is part of God.’

Yes, maybe those glimpses of knowledge or experiences that you've had but not in this lifetime are possible links to your past lives:)

Maybe one day people will realize too that basically all religions are really similar...all believe in a "higher" Divine creator, just call the creator by different names so like what's the fuss about thinking one superior over another..right?

I appreciate and share this view with you. I often wonder how crowded "heaven" would be if all the souls of everyone who ever died went there. I mean if you think about the population of earth now, then think about everyone who has ever lived and died....

It would be just my luck that I die and get to the gates and theres a note on them saying "Heaven Full".

Yes, exactly!

We are not really sure when time here on Earth began, at least, I am not.

To think of all the souls, and not just human ones, that if were subjected to just one life would be astronomical!

Well, "Heaven" may not be full if it is a really, really, REALLY big place..lol
So, there is still hope for you.

Thanks for making me smile:)

LOL--that's funny II2aTee...yes what a disappointment it would be if our "soul" went to those pearly gates and there was that sign of Heaven being full
Of course there's the question just exactly where our souls go, but maybe if the concept of Heaven is more the universe at large, well there there sure be a lot of room--you would also have to get into the idea that it's not just our souls...that is the souls of people who have lived here on earth, but any soul from any planetary system that has "intelligence"

I don't know if either of you are "into" the psychic Sylvia Browne who has written many books, including touching on the idea of reincarnation...some think she's a complete fraud...I don't...she does get into the concept that each soul does pick the circumstances of when to be born, to who their parents will be, and so forth...even the idea of what "kind" of life we will live to learn the next lesson
Any thoughts there??

Yes, I watch her on Montel if I have the time on Wednesday's. I did read one of her books a few years ago and visited her website. Very interesting.


http://www.sylvia.org/home/index.cfm


Her way of explaining things make a lot more sense than a lot of other books that I have read.

I don't agree with her 100%, but a lot of what she speaks on does make sense. I do believe that there are other intelligent beings out there, probably more intelligent than us. Thinking that we are the only ones seems kind of vain to me.

The truth is out there...

Bravo. Very well said, friend.

The arrogance of some religions and individuals who claim they know the true truth!

No one knows. Everyone has their hunches. But the truth is, if someone knows the truth, they are already dead and unable to tell the living.

Bingo you hit it! Yes I believe too, that no matter what our religion is, the spirit/soul winds up in the same place.
I can't help thinking that might be the real shocker to those who believe only their spirit or soul will go to Heaven then and the rest of us go to hell...LOL--can you imagine the interesting "conversations" or interactions between the soul who was a Born again Christian, with that of a pagan/wiccan/witch...hehee

I often wonder what religion the "gods" and the spirit follow or would choose to follow. Think about so many religions who believe theirs is the only truth. It has to be that way so the fear factor can be invoked. Most religions are based in fear and punishments. What nonsense.

I forgot to mention that, if reincarnation IS true, I believe this is my last trip around. I won't be coming back. At least, I hope not. I'm too tired.

Gpysy or not, you very may well have met your death by strangulation or some such thing in another life. I have a firm belief in this type of thing - one of my sisters believes she was hanged or strangled in a past life. I know I've been raped in a past life and have lived in a Nazi concentration camp. So many of our "idiosyncratic" fears or phobias and such things come from our past life memories, and also, I believe, ancestral memories. So glad to know I'm not alone in this!

Love your avatar, by the way. I, too, am a cat person and have a great affinity for them. Purrrrrr.

Hehe....I see we both have that gift of scaring people to death since we move so quietly
Yes, I do think some aspects of our past lives do continue into our present...that's a real interesting point about the gypsy thing BarBaraPrz. Have you ever had dreams of such a life?

Oh yes...it could explain different phobias..like a person's fear of water could be attributed to a past life where the person drowned

So in other words those who have lead bad lives are in some kind of "limbo" world???

they'll just not excist imo..
~joey

Well since you believe in Atlantis and they were supposedly an advanced civilization...you probably did fly then??? Just a thought

I knew that someone will figure it out...lol

oh just thought about this one my youngest son from age 2 said he had to go back to NEw York!
We had never been there at that time. but one year when we were in NEw Hampshire he rode the bus up there and had to stop in NEw York and he said he felt like he came home and he wasnt there very long not even to look around!

What????? Why do people think Mormons have horns and a tail, never heard of such nonsense in my life.
You mean your son had a deja vu kind of thing like he had been in New York before??...and of course he hadn't. Maybe had a previous life in NY, right?

yup the MOrmans have had to go thru all kinds of problems as they havent been around as long as the other churches lol yup thats what people thought, it was they thought that we were a religion from the devil lol and we practice the same as any other christian religon does.
and yup I belive my son was from anothre time fo r from the age of 2 he had told me he had to go BACK to new york ad we had never been there but when he was 15 he came thru there on a bus and felt very much at home like he had returned .
cant explain that one.