How do you figure out offerings at Church

@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
March 9, 2008 2:40pm CST
I was wondering how you figure out what offerings to put in the collection plate at Church? I know when I was a little girl and we went to the United Church that we were given envelopes each week =- for the members that is, and there was a certain amount printed on it, so you were expected to give $5, $10, or whatever and I had no idea whether my mother made a promise or whether it was what the Church determined she could give. In other Churches, they had the open collection plate so people could see how much or how little, and the ones with the bags, but in those Churches no one told you whether you have to give $5, or 25 cents a week or somewhere in between. Now I know in tithes, it is figured around ten percent, but in offerings it is usually what small change you have on you and you get that by not going to restaurants, or having coffee at work. So how do you determine what you put in the collection plate, since it is going to help the poor in your congregation in your community? And what if you may be one of the poor. I usually decided on a certain amount and then raise it when I make more money.
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@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
9 Mar 08
My church encourages the 10% tithe but they don't push it - they encourage everyone to give from the heart and what they 'feel' they can give. Sometimes there is a special offering collected such as last year when the church took on the task of working together with Habitate for Humanity and the church fully funded and physically helped with the building of a home for a needy family. It was a wonderful thing because everyone could help - those who didn't have 'extra money' could still volunteer to help with the home. That's one of the first things I noticed about my church before I joined - their not just about the church and the members, they are always doing things for the community like at Halloween they have 'Trunk or Treat' last year they estimated over 3000 people came to the church, less than half were church members. The church members were doing all the work and provided treats, toys, refreshments rides everything - I rode on one of the hay wagons to watch than everyone stayed setting down during the ride so as not to get hurt.
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@loved1 (5328)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Your church sounds quite a bit like mine. I have been to churches where they ask you to estimate what you think you might be able to donate (I think they called it a pledge card). That just helps the church officers figure out how they are going to pay their bills and use the extra to do ministry. I belong to a very generous church. Our members not only tithe but are willing to go above and beyond that amount on a regular basis. Our church is very active in community outreach programs. It might be that people are more willing to give because they can see where their offerings are going. It is too bad that people look at giving as such a burdon. Really, if you give with the right heart, it is a wonderful experience.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
We use the tithe for the minister's salary, and fixing up the church, building funds, and mission fields, and there are some who give more than enough. The offerings are for the poor at home and abroad. We decided that the minister's salary be based on what a person who had a university education, knew Hebrew, Latin, and Greek, and an excellent knowledge of theology, etc, should get. So our minister is living like the others in the area who have a similar training and not like as rich as Crosus.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
9 Mar 08
Who are you trying to fool? The church keeps every penny they get. How do you suppose the Church became the richest business on Earth? It wasn't by helping the poor that's for sure! Perhaps they do wrap up a few gifts for the unfortunate at Christmas, but the church in General is not famous for helping anyone but its own. I can't ever remember the church, (any church) volunteering to help any poor or suffering anywhere on earth. I'm not pretending to be a Christian and I have sponsored kids in Africa for many years. Yes its Through a Christian Organization but its not affiliated with any Church.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
10 Mar 08
The church that I attend does help the poor all over the world. They were there when the tsunami hit int the Indian ocean. They are there when ever there for every catastrophe. They are feeding the poor in Africa, They are proving food to the flood surviver in Zambia They were there when Katrina hit New Orleans and in Florida. We just do not believe in getting in the news like the Red Cross and the other organizations do. All the minsters are paid the same no matter the size of the church. We also give to our local food bank.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
Our church helps the people of its congregation, the poor in the area, a couple of downtown missions and those in the mission fields in Brazil. We would love to help those elsewhere, but unfortunately we are in a middle=working class area and few of the congregation here are business owners. I know by your answer that you are not a Christian because only a non Christian and hater of the church and of God and Jesus Christ would accuse God's church of being selfish.
@Polly1 (12644)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I belong to a United Church of Christ. Each year we fill out a form, we write down what we think we can give each week, or month. That way it helps the church figure out the budget for the year. my church is open with what money is being taken in and what is going out. We have no secrets. memebers alternate counting the money each week and entering it in the books. We also get envelopes to put our money in. I try to give at least $5 each week, when I can I will give more. The minister and the members do not know how much each person gives, the only people who know what someone gives that week is the person counting the money and recording it, and then they are so busy that they don't pay attention to who gives what.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
That sounds like what the United Church my mother belonged to would do, they would hand out envelopes and each member would pledge to give so much a month or a week. The churches I went to later, trusted people and we put what we would put in the collection plate. When I went to my son's wedding and my granddaughter's baptism, because we were not Roman Catholics, they did not expect us to give any money, but I had no idea how they distributed the money, what went to the church building, the minister, the poor etc. In our church, we have a separate envelope for tithes, church renovations, and church schools. The offerings go for the poor and needy. That way you feel like you are doing something.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I haven't been to church that takes up offerings in a while, but I did the ten percent and if I had extra, I would pray about how much to give..(though I have never seemed to have extra..:( )
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
Usually unless one cannot break a bill, the congregation gives anywhere up to a two dollar coin each.
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
1 Jun 08
I knew from a very young age that it was wrong to put anything in the collection at church...I am (or was born)roman catholic and it is my understanding that the catholic church is the richest outfit in the entire world...what do they need money for then...with all the starving children in the world and all the suffering, the church should not be that rich...after all religion is supposed to be about peace and loving fellow man, than why don't they give that money to the needy instead of hording it and building fancy temples to worship in while millions around the world don't even have a home to sleep in at night.....
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jun 08
That sounds like how my husband thinks. He thinks all preachers have money to burn, and they should give it to the congregation. The trouble is that the offerings put in the collection plate are for the poor. The tithes are for the salary or equivalent of salary of the pastor or priest, and that includes the fancy cathedral, the manse, and if it is a Roman Catholic Priest to pay for the housekeeper plus the furnishings. The congregation is the one that gives to the poor, so if you withhold your offerings, you may be hurting the poor. And also it is not right to just throw money at the poor without preaching them the good news of Jesus Christ. Once they hear of Christ, they get rid of their old superstitions that prevented them from finding new ways to earn a living.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jun 08
What you have to do is to find a church that preaches the true word of God and one that is not into having a big show. Most churches help the poor and you can tell if the minister gets the same salary as those with the equivalent education and if the congregation does not have much, he gets the lower end of the salary. And I was not telling what makes people poor, but at least they can be less poor if they are taught a better way. I know missionaries (I am not Roman Catholic)who go to the Third World and you would not believe the things thedr people are taught that keep them poor and unhealthy. For instance there was a boy in a Mission school who will not live that long because his mother will not give him any fruits or vegetables because he does not want them. And in some places, there are fruits, mangos and that on the trees, and none of the natives will eat them for some reason or another. What you are doing is blaming everything on what makes people poor - I know some cannot help it, but do you really think it would make things better if someone confiscated all the money the rich people made and just handed it to them? Why not write to your congressman or parliamentary representative to put more money into work training programs that are more than just jobs at MacDonalds? And what we do here besides offerings to the Church, is that we get the Salvation Army and Value Village to pick up our old clothes and furniture and no, they do not pay us for those items.
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
28 Jun 08
Your wrong...dont tell me that by withholding offerings at church I am not helping the poor. I dont go to church and that is my choice. I have other ways that I help other people including the poor. There should not be any fancy churches....a fancy church is not necessary to worship, it can be modest.....secondly, preaching Jesus Christ to people is wrong is that is not what they beleive....the information is there for everyone if they want it and if they dont than that is their choice...believing in Christ does not make one find a better job.....people are poor for many reasons....the governemnt keeps poor, rising prices make people poor, being born into poverty keeps people poor and unfortauntely for some minorities, that means being poor.....all the church cares about is making money and recruiting people....just my opinion
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• Philippines
9 Mar 08
Hi.. Just got home from the church. I heard about giving 10 percent of your income. But normally i just give what i can as long as it is whole heartedly given. I do not count of how much i should give. In my opinion it isnt necessary to abide the 10 percent, it might be more or less.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
That sounds like a good idea.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
in my church there was the weekly collection plate, and there was also envelopes where some people tithed,
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
16 May 08
as my minister said, God knows what you can and cannot do and he understands.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
We have the monthly tithes, and then there is the weekly collection plate, and we have Church twice on Sunday, but some people go to the larger Church in the richer business owner part of the neighborhood and then there sometimes is a shortfall, but I can only give so much.
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@soulist (2985)
• United States
24 Mar 08
I give 10 percent of what I make, but if I can't give that I give whatever I can even if it is a few dollars or cents. what matters is what's in your heart to give. God knows if we went to give as much as we can or as little as we can.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
I give ten percent in tithes, but as for offerings, I give what I can. I just do not know if there is a minimum amount. Now if there was a ruling in all the Reformed Churches that says well "any amount over and above a quarter" or something like that, it would be easier, but I know that several times, I was lucky to be able to give over the penny.
@lucy02 (5015)
• United States
16 May 08
I don't know. I just give what I feel I can comfortable afford at the moment. We don't usually take up any offerings. We do the regular tithes each week. Part of that is for missions but we rarely have an offering unless its for the Gideon's.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
We have our tithes once a month because that is when people get their paychecks and they pay their mortgages and their utilities then. We have offerings every week, twice on Sunday and since most of us do not go to restaurants on Sunday (SAturday imnstead_ some put the money they would have paid for at MacDonalds into the offering bag while others put in a dollar or whatever coin they have on them. Some put in more than others, but I can only put in so much.
@slickcut (8140)
• United States
10 Mar 08
In the Bible it only mentions tithing of 10%, and as far as offering there is no set amount,it is just a given thing of whatever you feel is enough or whatever you can afford...I know some people just give 15% to cover both tithing & offerings....
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
Well that 10% for tithes is enough, but I do not have the extra five percent for the offerings. I am in a catch up on the things I needed but could not afford situation. It gets confusing because the rule that what God puts in your heart to give may contrast with the other rule what the situation at the moment demands. So supposing God told me to reach in my change jar and take out two coins for the week, one is ten cent and the other a quarter, but then it comes up at the service that someone needs help, should I have been upset that I did not grab two toonies( $2 coin for the Americans) instead?
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@slickcut (8140)
• United States
16 May 08
First of all do not let people make you feel guilty..You can only do what you can.God does not expect more from you...I have gone to church all my life and they will ask and i just do what i can,not what i want...There are other ways of giving besides money..I know that you sing and that is giving of yourself to others,that is a part of giving..You are blessing others by your songs....To me offering is not only money,it can be a offering of yourself...Everything you do at church is giving of yourself......
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@idowrite72 (2213)
• United States
18 May 08
I am not a regular church goer but I have never thought that any church should determine how much I should give to the church. I do occasionally go to church with my daughter and I do put money in the offering collection. I decide what to give by what I have. If I have more money, I will put more money in. If I don't have money, I might not put much in or if I feel I really can't afford to, I would pass and not give anything. I think a person should give what they are comfortable with and I know there are those who would argue with me about that. I was told that there is something in the Bible about how much to give, but I do think that the final decision is up to you and what you are able to give. I wouldn't make sense if the church tells you that you should give a certain amount and yet you couldn't make your car note or pay all your utilities or other bills.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Jun 08
Our church says that you give a freewill offering every Sunday and since we do not go to the park on Sundays or get something to eat, that is usually what is given. Many however give the freewill offering once a month when they get paid. The tithes are for the church and the minister's salary and it is a separate thing, and that is recommended, but some so not have enough money to give the ten percent and still be able to pay their bills and that is understood and there are those who give more than that because they have lots left over after paying for their expense and even buying waneeds (wants that could almost be considered as needs.)
@asgtswife04 (2475)
• United States
12 Mar 08
I figure out 10% of everything i make each week and that is what I give to the Lord, because that is what He expects us to give as His children. He will not bless you the way He wants to bless you unless you are doing what He says to do. so, if you make 1000 dollars one week, then 100 of it is the Lord's. it's 10% of what you make. God bless
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Jun 08
I put ten percent of what I get from my pensions and my Old Age Security. I have not put myLot money that I get downloaded into my bank account yet. I do have a couple other charities so by the time, I get it even with the amount on our income tax, I will get a refund. But I cannot figure out the interest deal because well the tax man has taxes on that interest and I do not want to think that the income tax more important than God.
@chrislotz (8136)
• Canada
24 Mar 08
When I was a child we gave whatever we could afford to give, which some sundays was nothing. I came from a family of 8 kids so my parents didn't have much to give. But when I grew up and the church started mailing out those envelopes you are talking about and had an amount on them, is when I quit going to church. I felt that they are just another money thing and if they told me how much I needed to give, I didn't want to go anymore. I still believe in God and I am still a christian, I don't need to go to church to be a believer. But my mom and my sisters still go to church every week and they give too much as far as I am concerned. I know my mom gives a check for $50 every week and she can't really afford it since she is on pension, but she still gives it to them and does without something else so she can continue to give them. My oldest sister gives $25 each week and she can't afford it either, but she again, goes without to give to them. I think this is so wrong of the church to tell them how much they have to give, especially when they can't really afford it.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
13 Apr 08
Our church has tithe envelopes but we can put on the amount. It does not say ten percent because our lives are owned by God anyway. I do give ten percent because now I have my Old Age Security and I give one percent for offerings. There is also the showers and wedding gifts and mission meetings, so that often what was considered ten percent can become twenty or thirty once you consider everything else. But the ten percent is tax deductible because it is under charitable donations and that makes it easier. I think for your mother and oldest sister, 10% should be it because God wants us to look after our families.
• United States
14 Apr 08
The Bible teaches us to give ten percent of our earnings. If we dont, then we are stealing from him. :)
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
21 Apr 08
I give ten percent of my tithes, it is the offerings the one that is used to help the poor at home and abroad, that I am concerned about. I do not have that much of my own, just my pension and Old Age Security and the later depends on what my husband makes.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
10 Mar 08
God gave what I get in the first place and only asks for 10% of that back. My church does help the poor. We have a committee that handles that. We do get calls on the Sabbath from people that are not of our church. The committee will then take them food and fill other needs. We do have bills as a church. There is the electricity,water phone, and insurance and the church material such as Sabbath school lessons. For some unexplained reason people think that churches are managed on air. All the Pastors in our churches are paid the sane ( Size of the church doesn't matter) from the tithes. The tithes also goes for spreading Gods word around the world. The offering in our church go for the local church. We do have the tithe envelopes so that people can say where their money is going. The offers go to the local church, radio stations, food banks and so on and so forth.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
Our tithes go for the minister's salary, upkeep of the manse, and the church, we have a separate envelope for the school but then it is the parents of the students who pay the tuition although any non=parent, i.e. single or childless couples, can contribute to it, but we also have a pop can pickup, where if you bring in your pop cans or your soda bottles that goes to the crusher and the money is used for the school. But the offerings are for the poor and needy and since the bags are those tunnel velvet bags, no one can see what one puts in. It most put in coins, it is rather heavy, but if there are some bills, it is not as heavy.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
10 Mar 08
I always put in what I could afford to whether it was 1.00 or 10.00. I know that in the church I attended they used to put denominations on the outside of the envelope. I still just put in only what I could afford and no one ever complained. Even though I no longer attend that church, I will say this about most churches....most are very good about helping the needy even those that are not members. I have donated even when not attending church knowing that it could be my family or someone I care about that needs their help someday. I look at my donation as going to a good cause. If you don't have any to give or much, I am sure that no one looks down upon you for it.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
We put the amount we put in on the tithe envelope but the offerings are not in envelopes and we can put in what we like. So someone could put in a loonie or a toonie and someone could put in $10 and someone a penny and no one notices. Of course, the kids when they get the money to put in the collection plate from their parents show everyone around what they are going to put in and that gets rather concerting when some four year old is holding out a loonie and you are only giving five cents.
• United States
10 Mar 08
The idea of tithing is an Old Testament concept and goes way beyond money. If you wish to tithe, be prepared to give the firstfruits (the first tenth) of everything you have. That includes your time, your land, your possessions, you name it. We live in a New Testament world and are under a new and everlasting covenant in Christ now. We ought to live there and not keep looking back to a time before there was full atonement for our sins. The notion of giving ten percent is not only obsolete but it's just not possible for a lot of families. The way I see it, if you believe that the Bible is inspired of God and that what it says is basically what God would say on any given subject, then why do we cling to a ten percent model of giving when Paul tells us very clearly that, "each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for the Lord loves a cheerful giver," please? That's 2 Cor. 9:7, in case you want to look it up. There's way to much compulsion and guilting of people by their local churches to give beyond their means. That's not an encouragement to exercise faith, it's a shakedown, plain and simple, and it is not sound doctrine. I give a little money to my church every week. I also give my time, my musical talents and my insights for planning events and services, tackling administrative tasks and basically whatever else I'm asked to do and which time allows. Do I give ten percent? Hardly. Do I want to give more? Yes. Will I continue to give cheerfully if I can't meet my bills because my car payment is in the offering plate and my car is with the repo man? Nope. So I make that payment and I give what I can for the church when my responsibilities are met and there's nothing wrong with that.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
I give tithes and I give offerings. I also am in the choir and I did one solo, but the members of the choir are supposed to bring the cakes and cookies on the two concerts each year. Then there are the ladies who take food around and the sets of volunteers that do the cooking for special events, there are about four of five sets = I am in one, but that is not counted as the offerings. I have no idea where the money comes from. There is a categorized church fund, so much for the minister and his salary, the manse, etc, so much for the organist, etc. but the offerings are mainly for the needy and so I guess that other comes out from the tithes. Some give more than ten percent and that is okay because I guess that means they feel they are making more than they want to live on and that also includes traveling to Europe every year, etc.
@bfarrier1 (2082)
• United States
10 Mar 08
I usually put in what I can afford that week some weeks I can give more than others,since it is to help the poor,I don't want to end up being one of them so I give what I can without running short myself.Have a great day!
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
It is usually best to give what you can and not what others decide that you should. Sometimes I cannot give as much but I know others give more. I do give the ten percent every month for tithes though but that is just on my pension and Old Age Security Money. I cannot figure out interest, etc. ten percent of 82 cents or whatever is not that much.
@di1159 (1580)
• United States
10 Mar 08
I usually give what I can and not just in monetary donations. My contributing time, effort and any other form of aid as needed is enough for me to rest at night and know I did something good.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
I do not have enough time to give in time, I can only give the money. It seems that I have to work harder to make more to give and that conflicts with the freewill offering bit. I sometimes felt I should give more, I am not talking about tithes, but then something comes up and it is always something in the back of my mind that I could not afford just then. Then I decide that maybe I should not have given that much in the first place.
@MelanieW (66)
• Indonesia
11 Mar 08
We should give from our heart,does't matter how much we give as long as it come from our heart. God doesn't see on how much (amount)we give, but He sees our heart.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 May 08
That is what it should be and in our church we have the offering bags so that no one can see that the other person puts in the bag, but I went to a church in ecclesiastical fellowship with ours when we were in P.E.I that had the collection plates so you could see what the other people put in. So naturally many put in five dollar, ten dollars, etc. bill. Now at the time, I had not gotten my Old Age Security and I only got a little over $80 a momth, and for me even a five dollar bill would have been a great sacrifice. I put in a quarter or so, but I was so embarrassed.