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myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (3207)   ranked 463 out of 7,414 in religion7 months ago

Atheist will say that the concept of God came from primitive humans that use the term God to explain how the world works. If early mankind was so primitive then how did they come up with the concept of God in the first place. If there has never been a God, and we just showed up by dumb luck, then why did early man start calling unexplainable event acts of God. Did one day someone just come up if the word God and then a definition for this new word? Why is it that Atheism is pretty much new to the scene of human existance. If there was never a God then should there be more Atheist in early history.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 54/100. Latrivia (899)   ranked 1,159 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

At some point in time, many different concepts did not exist. Fairies, ghosts, monsters - everything had to be thought up by some person at some time. Humans have existed to see and record the "birth" of new Gods and folklore. It all began with some imaginative people.

When people describe our early ancestors as "primitive", it is because of their lack of technology and understanding of the world. At one point in time, the sun rose because a God made it so. This was their understanding of the world - far different from our own, more enlightened views. Just because they are primitive, doesn't mean they can think up a God.

>>> "If there was never a God then should there be more Atheist in early history."<<<

We are born with no knowledge of religion, or of Gods. We are taught to believe in God when we grow older. So in fact, we are born atheists. Atheism is the default - theism comes later.

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2. myLot reputation of 25/100. redyellowblackdog (3109)   ranked 3,718 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

I suspect in early history man found himself so much at the whim of natural forces he pretty much had to believe there was something more powerful than he. Possibly, too, that "IT" was out to get him!

Crop failures, disease, natural predators, and who knows what else, were all out to get early man. Not understanding anything about these things, it was natural for early man to assume there was some powerful God behind it all.

Today, in their ignorance, some men assume since they now understand a few things, all things can be understood and explained. These arrogant people are often atheists.


myLot reputation of 48/100. HawaiiGopher (527)   ranked 659 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

Arrogant, you say? Why arrogant?


myLot reputation of 25/100. redyellowblackdog (3109)   ranked 3,718 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

I consider the athesists who believe man can eventually understand and explain everything to be arrogant because as humankind anwers questions, even more questions are discovered to be asked. As a result, in the world of today, there is more unknown of which man is aware than in prehistory when man did not even have a clue how much he did not know.

As science progress, we are making a small hill of facts about which we are pretty sure while at the same time constructing a mountain of new unknowns.

The people who look at the hill and notice how much bigger it is than thousands of years ago and see it as proof man will figure everything out in the universe seem arrogant to me as they must be ignoring the exponitially growing mountain.


myLot reputation of 48/100. HawaiiGopher (527)   ranked 659 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

So could one not apply your statements to religion by saying it's arrogant to believe that one religion holds all explanations?


myLot reputation of 25/100. redyellowblackdog (3109)   ranked 3,718 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

Completely correct. All the major organized religions are arrogant, deceitful, and for the most part corrupt.

For these reasons, I'm neither an athesist or a member of any organized religion.


myLot reputation of 48/100. HawaiiGopher (527)   ranked 659 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

So in a way, all human beings are arrogant for having a belief in something. That is to say, you would be arrogant too for following a certain mindset? I'm not sure what your religious beliefs are but would I be wrong if I guessed agnostic?


myLot reputation of 25/100. redyellowblackdog (3109)   ranked 3,718 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

Well, I would not agree belief in something makes anyone arrogant. Only a belief along the lines of "What I believe is absolutely 100% correct and everyone else is wrong!"

I'm not an agnostic either in that I definitely believe in God. I just don't think He was Jesus, Mohammed was his messanger, or that He led Moses out of Egypt.

My belief is that God is beyond man's comprehension. I think of man understanding God's true nature much like an ant doing trigonometry. That ant just does not have the prerequists and neither do we.

Of course, my beliefs also tell me I could be wrong, so as to not get arrogant about it.

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3. myLot reputation of 86/100. Galena (2964)   ranked 24 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

by that concept then, surely every God exists? or does this theory apply only to the Christian God, not those beleived in before that idea showed up.


myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (3207)   ranked 463 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

I do not believe that I specified, totally open ended. If you wish to discuss your Wiccan Goddess, go right.


myLot reputation of 86/100. Galena (2964)   ranked 24 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

I'm not Wiccan.

Wiccan is a modern Pagan tradition. started in the 1950s by Gerald Brosseau Gardner.

I'm Pagan and I'm a Witch, but no Wiccan.

easy mistake to make though, as so many Pagans inccorrectly identify themselves as Wiccan without knowing the first thing about that tradition.


myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (3207)   ranked 463 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

Well do you want to discuss your Pagan and Witch Gods, and Goddess. If you can explain how primitive humans came up with the idea of God, if there has never been a God before, I could carless where you come from. It seem that I have gotten no were with this discussion.

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4. myLot reputation of 83/100. headhunter525 (1134)   ranked 169 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

I think it will be a mistake to argue for God's existence or otherwise based on the origin of the idea. People like Feuerbach will say one thing, but psychologist like Paul Vitz will say another. I think it serves to explain only a strand of human nature/reality. There is more to it.

 
5. myLot reputation of 69/100. megaplaza (631)   ranked 1,575 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

it started from the fact that man can't give an account of how they come into existence so they have to attribute it to something divine and invincible.

 
6. myLot reputation of 74/100. libertarianfreedom21 (990)   ranked 706 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

before there was ever a religion, people only had nature to live by, they watched the trees, and wind, and water. they thought all of them had a soul to them, which is true all of them have energy in them. Later on people didnt understand much of the concept of life, so they put a divine being to the unknown. Or the aliens is where God began, one of those two. LOL. Now most believe in God b/c its been inbred for 2000 years, and before that there was other beliefs of gods or whatnot so many many years we been taught to think that way. I think its time that we as humans need to look outside the box and maybe try new ways of thinking. Thinking for ourselves.

 
7. myLot reputation of 92/100. klaudyou (363)   ranked 6,753 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

From our need of beliefs in a superior being.

Quite simply, we just need something to complete our undestanding and aour powers. Usually humans bow to a superior force just like that. It's in our instincts...I say instincts just to emphasize that it's not really a controlled need or something we think at much.

Imagine a savage who has no access to education or something like that, living on a desert island. During a storm he sees a thunder that comes down and shakes or burns down a tree... from the very next moment on he will most surely fear the God Thunder...and asks him to keep him safe.

It's just our need of a superior being, something to fear of, or something to protect us..

~ ...in my opinion... feel free to express yours~


myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (3207)   ranked 463 out of 7,414 in religion  7 months ago

Maybe I did not write this discussion very well. I was not asking why need a to call something God, but my question is were did the term God come from. Why did early mankind start calling thing God if there has never been.

 
8. myLot reputation of 48/100. HawaiiGopher (527)   ranked 659 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

I'm a bit confused about what you're asking. Are you asking where the term 'God' derives from? If so, here's an interesting page which will answer your question:

http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm

 
9. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (12558)   ranked 786 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

you just gave the explanation for the concept of god so what are you asking, primitive man so the lightening a natural phenomenon, and it was god, etc,

anything greater than humankind was god and god took on many names. Primitive man also feed virgins to volcanos too to appease the gods,

they also scrificed babies to the gods, and the earliest form of religions were first objects as god, like a volcano, then many gods and the youngest form is one god.

atheism is not new the first recorded athheist was

Diagoras of Melos (5th century BC) is known as the "first atheist". .... A History of Atheism in Britain: from Hobbes to Russell. London: Routledge.

 
10. goriomoriones (33)   ranked 1,522 out of 7,414 in religion   7 months ago

If there is no God, the concept of having a God came from God, He wants to show to all of us that He is the creator of all. That we should render worship to Him alone.

Once, I had no God. but He introduced Himself to me, through the nature, through the things around me, through the things that happen in the world.

 
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