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myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics 4 years ago

I don't know who the country singer is that wrote a song about McCain, in favor of him nothing bad, well at least that I could tell from the song. I'm not into country music really. Madonna on the other hand I grew up with her on the radio all the time and it seemed like she was on every channel. It seems that she doesn't really like Mr. McCain either and has taken a swipe at him. The McCain camp has since came out with a comment calling it "Outrageous". I did hear that Toby Keith is also supporting Obama I can't find any information about that rumor so I can't say for sure.

Do you think that a rock/pop/rap/country singer either endorsing or opposing a person running for president helps or hurts that person? Do you think that you would support a candidate just because your favorite singer is supporting that person? I personally think it's silly but there are a lot of people that are such fans they would jump on the "bandwagon" of their favorite star. If I remember correctly some people were really upset and outraged when the Dixie Chicks said something about Bush, I don't remember what it was but it sparked a feud with Toby Keith.

Oh, here's the Madonna article if you care to read it.

http://www.popeater.com/m...

 

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1. myLot reputation of 90/100. lilwonders123 (1248)   4 years ago

Who really cares what celebrity likes who. I mean really. Who makes up their mind about a candidate just because some star likes that person? I would like to think people are smarter than that. Especially with such an important decision.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I personally do not care about a celebrity endorsment by I know that there are tons of people that do. Another example look at what Opra did by endorsing Obama. It was almost like God had spoken.


myLot reputation of 79/100. clrumfelt (1908)   ranked 133 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I thing everyone on MyLot can agree that Madonna is just so TOTALLY politcally
astute when it comes to endorsing a candidate, I can't understand how anyone would NOT vote for Obama after viewing her video. Seriously folks, if I were running for a political office and someone made a video like that one, I'd be glad if the video endorsed the other guy! And, no, it doesn't make any difference to me which candidate my favorite superstar endorses. I can think for myself.


myLot reputation of 79/100. clrumfelt (1908)   ranked 133 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

.... and I don't the Madonna video was even worthy of a response by McCain. But at least it got him a little news time. Thanks for that, Madonna.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I guess Madonna supports Obama because they both want to end world poverty. Some people have no idea that Madonna supports a ton of different charities mostly comprised of children's charities.

And, actually seeing the video didn't change my mind about voting for Obama at all. I will vote for someone that doesn't want to oppress women any day of the week over a man that basically believes that women are second class citizens. He stance on birth control and abortion speaks volumes to me.


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6785)   ranked 284 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Yes, McCain is so interested in oppressing women that he pays the women on his staff more than the men. Fortunately for women, Obama is a hero who pays the women on his staff significantly less than the men.

If abortion were purely a women's rights issue, than we wouldn't have so many women in this country who are opposed to abortion.

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2. myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 127 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

The Dixie Chicks dissed the entire country, I believe they said (well, one of them actually) that they were ashamed to be Americans during a performance overseas, which started the fight between them and Toby Keith and basically ruined them in the U.S.

I like music and I like television and I like movies but I don't believe that, just because someone can sing, dance or act, they automatically have brains and/or good judgement. So, no, endorsements from celebrities or slams by other celebrities don't have any impact on my opinions of the candidates. I am still trying to get a handle of their positions and their plans...that's what I'm voting on, not on who likes or dislikes them.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I know that the intelligent population of the US doesn't bother with whom their favorite singer/actor whatever endorses but I know that there are people that would run and vote due to their favorite actor/singer/talk show host.


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11669)   ranked 329 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

The Dixie Chicks most certainly did NOT diss the entire country! Natalie Maines made the comment during a performance in England that they were embarrassed that George W. Bush was from Texas. That's hardly that they were ashamed to be Americans!
Annie


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I have to say that I have heard other people from Texas say the exact same thing. Some of my family lives there and they can't wait until Obama becomes president, each week I get an email counting down the days that Bush is out. lol


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6785)   ranked 284 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

"The Dixie Chicks most certainly did NOT diss the entire country! Natalie Maines made the comment during a performance in England that they were embarrassed that George W. Bush was from Texas."

This sounds a bit more like the way I remembered it. Here's an article with the actual quote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...

The reason it was such an issue is that they said this shortly after the war in Iraq began and Bush's approval ratings were very high at the time. If I remember correctly he was still in the 70s. It was a foolish move for them business-wise since country-western fans tend to be very patriotic and many are conservatives. They really alienated their audience with those remarks.

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. danishcanadian (24623)   ranked 32 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

My political views are mine, and not to be influenced by someone else, not even my mother, or my husband. I am going to vote for the person that I believe in, and that is all there is to it. People can vote for whem ever they want, and I will do the same thing. I think it's terrible what politicans are doing to try and influence the votes of the general public. it's crazy!!


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I agree with you totally. Speaking of your husband, did you two have fun while he was visiting? I haven't seen you on so I figured that you and him were enjoying your time together.

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4. myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

My first thoughts, the old addage, "shut up and sing" comes to mind. But if your not going to at least promote your candidate productively. A quick comparison of the 2 endorsments. The endorsment of McCain by john Rich (of big and rich) and the song he wrote calle "Raisin McCain" is a respectable endorsment of John McCain, the song can be downloaded here if you want to hear it, you can download it here:
http://www.johnrich.com/
The song is just a rallying tune for the most part, nothign derogitory about Obama

the Modana "endorsment" simply shows pictures of Obama on a video screen at one of her shows with other pictures of people like Ghandi and john lennon. then flashes McCain's picture up with pictures of hitler. This is so typical of the hollywood and pop music scene, it's sickening and demonstrates a complete lack of any couth or intellignce and makes absolutely no point or coherant message at all about the candidate she is endorsing.
Now, Who would you rather have endorsing you?


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

and I would be absolutely astounded if Toby kieth were endorsing Obama. It's not at all likely.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

ok, I looked it up and all he has said was that Obama was the best democratic candidate since bill clinton. He is not endorsing him, just praising him.


myLot reputation of 90/100. lilwonders123 (1248)  4 years ago

I was shocked too so I looked up on line. Do you search engine. It shocked when I found out not only is he a democrat but he is endorsing Obama. Gee, just when you thought you knew a man.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Ok, I usually don't start backward with responses but I wasn't paying attention today and opened yours first lol. Then I found this about Toby Keith and wanted to touch on that first, because I really got the impression that he was a Conversative but now I don't know lol So here's the link to that

http://news.aol.com/polit...

I don't know which I would rather have endorse me. I of course am a great deal like Madonna (I could give an F less what people think of me and I tell it like it is, if I think you're an ahole I just tell you). I don't know if a country singer would be a good endorsement because some people still think of country siners as dumb hicks. Which to each their own and it doesn't make it right.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I see I took too long writing my response and you two already beat me too it. I was trying to type while listening to a kid talking about something lol


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

He isn't endorsing, he just praised him. BUT this is also interesting in an interview with Glenn Beck, he said" I think the black people would say he [Obama] don't talk, act or carry himself as a black person."
"What does that even mean?" the audibly shocked Beck replied.
"Well, I don't know what that means," Keith drawled, "but I think that that's what they would say. Even though the black society would pull for him I still think that they think in the back of their mind that the only reason he is in [the general election] is because he talks, and carries himself as a Caucasian."


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I guess I was just refering to the outragous nature of her "endorsment" it was really shildish and showed a complete lack of class and that she is just another hollywood/music business sheeple


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Well he is a Democrat. That really shocked me a lot, I mean after the whole Dixie Chicks feud I would have figured he was a Republican. I don't know what else to say about that I'm to shocked lol.

As for Beck, I don't know I don't really listen to the show ok so I have never listened to the show, but I do know and are very good friends with several black women and they are excited about Obama even though he "acts white" their words not mine.


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6785)   ranked 284 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

"I do know and are very good friends with several black women and they are excited about Obama even though he "acts white" their words not mine."

I think it's sad that any black man who uses proper grammar is accused of talking like he's white. I remember Chris Rock talking about people who would say about Colin Powell "He speaks so well". "That's not a compliment. That's something you say about a retard who can talk." Of course there are also people who say Colin Powell couldn't be the first black president, just the first brown president. I just don't know why many think rappers and gangsters are more representative of the black community than well spoken people with respectable military and political careers. Ok, I'm done goign completely off topic now.

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5. myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11669)   ranked 329 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

What I think is really hilarious is how various artists have sued the McCain campaign for using their music without permission. I think Jackson Browne is the most recent to do so and I think John Mellencamp had done it earlier.

I really don't think many people would make up their minds as to who to vote for baed on what their favorite singer says but I disagree with those who think entertainers somehow have less of a "right" to speak their minds than the rest of us do. They have a bigger audience because their fans have given it to them, it's the free market at work, isn't it? The one thing I will say is when an entertainer speaks out about political issues or other world problems, whether I agree with their viewpoint or not, I tend to gain respect for them because it's nice to see that people we tend to think of as shallow and self-centered have more substance than we thought.
Annie


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Very well said, I guess with the whole Madonna thing it seems strange because normally people don't hear her talk about politics. I personally find it interesting when stars talk about issues because well I'm usually shocked by there political preferrence. I would have never believe Toby Keith being a Democrat since he "lost" his mind of the Bush comment.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

" disagree with those who think entertainers somehow have less of a "right" to speak their minds than the rest of us do"
I don't think they do either. BUT.....and it's a BIG but......what they do have, at least at a general human moral level, is the great reponsability in how they speak it. If modana had stopped on stage and simply in her dialoug with the crowd. I'm "supporting Obama because I think we need a diferent direction in this country and I think he is the one....yadda yadda" Or simply presented Obama's image. Or just generaly be a public posative activist for him in her public life.
McCain - hitler
Cmon. seriously. cmon


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Well X maybe to Madonna he appears that way, I know that I don't have to tell you that she is a huge supporter of women's rights and well McCain really isn't.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

If Tim McGraw had done a concert and put up Obama - hitler images on the screen, He'd be barbaqued alive on every network in a live simulcast, run out of a job, forced to publicly apologize to every one and their great aunt aggie, be shamed in to seeking council from Rev Al sharpton, and then be forced to crawl to satlite radio. This was pure mindless, venomous and tastlessly slanderous and hateful garbage.
McCain - Hitler?
cmon.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Ok what did Hitler do to the Jews and anyone else that he didn't consider "True Germans"? He first took away their basic rights as a human being, they after a while he took away the items they owned, then eventually took their life. So it maybe a strech but it is an attention getter. As perviously stated McCain does not appear to care from women's rights. One would have to think about it abstractly to get the message. I know I will not make you understand the message you are too hung up on the fact that you think McCain was insulted so there really isn't a point to go on about it.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

"Ok what did Hitler do to the Jews and anyone else that he didn't consider "True Germans"?
He gassed shot or burned alive a few million of them


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Open up google and search it X, there was a lot more to it than just killing them and there were also a lot more than a few million.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I was generalizing and simplifying. Besides, the killing was bad enough in itself.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I'm sorry when I generalized that didn't fly with you.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7623)   ranked 42 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

tuche'


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

lol


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6785)   ranked 284 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

"Ok what did Hitler do to the Jews and anyone else that he didn't consider "True Germans"? He first took away their basic rights as a human being, they after a while he took away the items they owned, then eventually took their life."

So exactly what rights has McCain taken away from women? They can still have abortions every day if they like. He didn't vote to force insurance companies to cover birth control. Which rights exactly did that take away? He didn't vote for an increase in minimum wage. Which rights did that take away.

And perhaps I missed this, but at what point did McCain start torturing innocent citizens in his own country and send them to gas chambers? Comparing him to Hitler is just as assinine as comparing Obama to Osama bin Laden. I can't believe people are really willing to defend such ignorance.

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6. myLot reputation of 83/100. irisheyes (3349)   ranked 213 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

No, who the celebrities vote for is their own business and for the most part I wish they would keep it to themselves. Only an occasional very well done endorsement gets through to me. I thought the one Jack Nicholson did as the Joker endorsing Hillary Clinton was clever.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

LOL I didn't know that about Jack Nicholson. That's not only clever but extremely funny. I was just having a conversation with xfactor (not spelled right) today about the "Land of Confusion" video where they had a puppet Reagan dressed up as Superman. I guess we are the general public have to sit back and laugh.

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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. donna22 (972)   ranked 357 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

There may be some influence but Id hope most people would be able to think for themselves. Obviously Madonna is a more trendy endorsement and goes well with Barack Obama's image to fit in with and appeal to the young people despite her being 50 now. I think it can both help and hurt depending on how excatly that celebriy endorses them. If all they do is say they support that candidate then it will help but if they start bad-mouthing the other candidate then this can cause problems.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

I would hope that most will decide for themselve but we all know a certain someone here on mylot that would not be able to do that. I'm not naming names but if you think hard you'll figure it out lol

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8. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   4 years ago

I am afraid that any celebrity endorsement is just a turn off for me. Cause we all know how intelligent THEY are on...oh so many levels. I mean, hey....multiple marriages, multiple adulteries, multiple bad choices, gaining it all/losing it all, multiple jail sentances(which their multiple dollars get them off of)...oh they are so to be admired and emulated! Sarcastic much...you bet.lol That would make me run from a candidate, and so I still have no one worth my vote! Sigh...oh well..I already knew it.wink


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

LOL Well you could always vote for Ron Paul, I don't know anything about him, but my neighbor has a bumper sticker and was talking about him one day. Or you could just write in like Daffy Duck or Bugs lol


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  4 years ago

Seriously I was thinking about writing in Colin Powell.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Wow, even though he is a Republican I have thought about voting for him before this election.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  4 years ago

Oh, I didn't even think "party". I just really really admire the man he is. Maybe we should start a grassroots write in vote. Let's see....we have what....2 1/2 months? lol Sure we can do it. I wonder if he would accept if we got him voted in? wink


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Hasn't he publically stated that he has no interest in being president? I wonder what would happen if someone won that didn't want to do it? lol I think that he could work at uniting the parties that be. He speaks and everyone listens. Guess now I'm off to find out more about where he stands on the issues.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  4 years ago

I really don't know, let me know what you find out! If nothing else we can start:
Colin Powell, President 2012!! wink


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6785)   ranked 284 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Unfortunately Colin Powell has made it clear several times that he does not want to run for the presidency. He came close in 1996, but decided that he did not want to put his family through the stress and scrutiny that comes with an election. This year would have been a great chance for him since many people see how he resigned from the Bush administration. It showed character since he clearly had disagreements with the way things were done.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  4 years ago

Our loss, just shows that's he's smarter and wiser than those that DO run! LOL!

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9. myLot reputation of 13/100. ClarusVisum (1018)   ranked 2,465 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

As far as music stars, I really don't care. In general, I don't care about "endorsements" like these anyway (although I did find it humorous to see the Hilton family, which are big Republican supporters, BASH McCain big time for his Britney-Paris ad, and for Paris herself to make a mock ad in turn that astonishingly spent more time talking about issues than McCain's real ad did).

I will say that an 'unfortunate' person that came out to defend McCain over him not knowing how many houses he has was Robin Leach, the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous guy. That can't look good for McCain when he's trying to defend accusations of him being out of touch with ordinary people.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

LOL Well if I had donated that much money to someone and they made fun of my child I would be PI$$ED off too.

I didn't hear about Leach though that's really funny. I have been hiding from television so I don't have to hear the mess ads. On a brighter note after the news went off tonight, I heard a McCain ad and it didn't bash Obama once! Can you believe that? LOL

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10. myLot reputation of 85/100. rogue13xmen13 (10475)   ranked 803 out of 3,987 in politics   4 years ago

Obama has a lot of celebrities supporting him, and I do not if this is a good thing or a bad thing? So far, having a lot of celebrities supporting Obama seems like a good thing.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 102 out of 3,987 in politics  4 years ago

Interesting. I think it's funny that celebrities are supporting him.

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