Anyone still believe we're going to see a tax cut?
By xfahctor
@xfahctor (14113)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
September 8, 2008 4:26pm CST
With the announcement of the bailout of the fannie may and freddie mac, the chances of a tax cut next year is looking pretty dismal no matter WHO wins. the bailout by many estimates os going to initialy cost 100 billion by many recent estimates.though early speculation aluded to a cost of only around 40 billion. One estimate puts it signifigantly higher at 500 billion:
Bennet Sedacca of Atlantic Advisors thinks the tab will end up being an order of magnitude higher: from "John Mauldin's Outside the Box newsletter"
When the Treasury peels back the onion, I believe they will find a hornet's nest. I think we will see an initial bailout of $100 billion or so, with 2/3-3/4 going to Fannie (as it is a larger organization). The scenario I foresee however, just as happened at Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and Morgan Stanley, is that they came to the financing window expecting to have borrowed enough, but then find they have to keep coming back repeatedly until the buyers go away or until "We The People" have thrown at least $500 billion at Fannie/Freddie to get them back on their feet again. This will also likely take an Act of Congress to raise the Treasury's Debt ceiling quite dramatically."
Even with the current estimates, we are talking about 100 billion added on to an already gargantuaine deficit, clinton found when he got in to office in 1992, that after looking at the financial situation he could not give the middle class tax cut he had promised, why?not because he never intended to keep the promise, but because the country simply couldn't afford it. Now it looks as if the next president will probably find himself in the same boat, woe be to them if they don't start looking at this reality now and re thinking tax policies instead fo waiting to be in office before opening their eyes
6 responses
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Sep 08
Well even though this may turn into another beater for me. Here goes. How on Earth can either candidate (Obama or McCain, Notice I said both) cut taxes? It is actually a question. I mean what's the monthly spending on the war? So how will the war pay for itself? Or were the candidates just planning on pulling the troops out the day after they take office? (Yes I already know that Obama says he wants to end the war to end responsibly and I haven't checked today to see what McCain thinks about it) If taxes are cut the US will owe a lot of money to China. These are only my personal opinions and questions.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Sep 08
You're so smart. Could you spread the news? I guess if people really want a tax decrease they could have more children. Sorry that was the fake optimistic me lol
@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
19 Sep 08
I think this administration is making it so that neither candidate has the option to decrease taxes. Bailing out AIG, and all these big corporations, with YOUR tax dollars...Doesn't help the problem.
People are losing their homes, our country is in debt, and yet that just gave all this money to businesses that were going under? What about the executives that mismanaged their companies? What about all the money they make every year off of you?
What does that tell people, Found a business, on poor principles and when you are about to go under, the government will keep you up.....with the peoples money..
Why did the government chose to bail out these businesses, when our own people are losing their shelter?....gas prices, food prices, etc all going up....
They used our money, to "mend" something that will end up broken again. If it happened once, it surely can happen again. Interesting how AIG needed this hand out, but could donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to political campaigns....senators etc..... This is disgusting, and as an American I am appalled....
America is for sale...
@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
19 Sep 08
Not from McCain for sure. He thinks Bush's tax cuts for the rich should be permanent. And has said he voted for them, and that he voted against them.
McCain thinks middle class is $5 million a year. McCain is the one you have to worry about...
If we are going to have Socialism, we might as well have the benefits....
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I would not want to be a president.. life is too huge and complex these days.. and problems are so huge it boggles the senses..

@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
9 Sep 08
Either we pay the tax up front in the open or the currency gets devalued even more. Either way, the bills will be paid. The suckers... er... I mean (taxpayers) will be fleeced.
There is no free lunch.
@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
8 Sep 08
If we learn to vote based on issues and what each candidate has worked for...we will be able to lighten the concern and be able to focus on what is truly affecting America..
Until we have a government who stops carelessly spending American money...we will have issues...
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
8 Sep 08
Oh yeh, the current administration (ack I actualy used that cliche') has broke with the republican mantra of minimal spending and fiscal conservatism. McCain objected initialy to histax cuts because they weren't acompanied by reduced spending.
My over all point was we have 2 candidates promising tax cuts, one promising cuts to 90-95% of americans and yet the reality is, there is no situation now or in the forseeable future, given the candidates plans on increased spending and with this bailout, that will concevably allow for a tax cut of any real sort. SO no matter who wins the election, tax cuts are not going to happen.








