Sarah Palin's Dirty Little Secret: Her Wolf Slaughter Program
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
October 10, 2008 6:03pm CST
Right off the bat let me just say this...for the most part I've been staying away from political discussions as I just plain don't want to get into an argument especially with my friends. I'll say however, upfront, I'm not thrilled with either candidate who is running from President. When McCain however decided to add Sarah Palin to the ticket as his Vice President candidate, I couldn't help see this as a downright ploy to sway women voters who may have been backing up Clinton.
Well folks, that just won't wash or work with me...there's something about Palin that creeps me out..LOL. I just don't LIKE the woman and I'm certainly not going to rush to vote for McCain just because he has a woman VP. Now some folks have rattled out about her "wonderful" qualities,...but many may not know of her wolf slaughter campaign in her home state of Alaska.
For a long time, The Defenders of Wildlife and other animal/environmental organizations did a tireless campaign to stop the aerial wolf slaughter that was initiated by none other than Sarah Palin herself...sadly they lost
On The Defenders Of Wildlife website it states:
[i]In June, after gunning down 14 adult wolves from a helicopter, officials from Governor Palin’s Department of Fish and Game rounded up 14 orphaned wolf pups and methodically shot each one in the head in clear violation of a state law.
State law prohibits the targeting of pups -- a practice known as denning. Maybe that’s why Palin’s officials tried to cover it up, making no mention of the brutal pup executions in the state’s June 30th press release on the killings. To date, none of the officials involved in the incident has been held accountable.
Governor Palin could be just a heartbeat from the presidency. Do we want a vice president who champions savagery towards animals?[/i]
You can read more about it here
http://www.defendersactionfund.org/
{Warning: This is NOT a referral link NOR a petition, but information about Palin's wolf slaughter program}
On the website there are videos about all this as well...and if you wish to voice you opinion you can with other links...I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head about signing any petition...if a person chooses to do so it is up to them...
The MAIN issue here however, is this "kept" secret that many don't know about concerning Palin's program to kill off and slaughter wolves---Do we want a VP that sanctions such brutal slaughter of animals..any animals? What is to prevent her if she is elected as VP to initiate other programs of the slaughter of other animals in our country?
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@philjas (1134)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I will again point to the fact (I posted about this) that The Humane Society has endorsed Barack Obama for President. Now this is a BIG DEAL because the Humane Society has NEVER endorsed a Presidential candidate before EVER. They simply don't do that, because they are bipartisan and only endorse congressional candidates, and they make their choices based on the candidates records on animal right, regardless of whether they are Democrats or Republicans, right or left. But in 2008 the Republican VP nominee's TERRIBLE record on animal welfare moved them to endorse a Presidential candidate for the first time ever. That speaks VOLUMES to me. Obama and Biden both have pretty good records on animal rights issues, and McCain's record is okay too (and for his part, he's an animal lover and has numerous pets), but Palin has, "perhaps done more harm to animals than any other current governor in the United States."
The link to the Humane Society endorsement is here:
https://community.hsus.org/humane/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=27497157
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 Oct 08
It was the defenders of wildlife that I first starting getting the info about the wolf slaughter..they're a great organization
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Yes, philjas..since I receive the Humane Society's email newsletters and alerts I'm very aware that for the first time ever they are endorsing a presidential candidate...I haven't had the chance yet, but I wonder how many other animal and environmental organizations are backing up Obama..since Palin has a lousy attitude about the environment in general I wonder if places like the Sierra Club endorse him as well. Great point philjas!
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
11 Oct 08
Alright, I'm a little confused. Not about the discussion as a whole, add me to the protestors against this piece of idiocy, but about the role wolves play.
Some years ago I read a book written by a zoologist (can't remember his name, or the book title, maybe "Cry Wolf"?) who was commissioned to study wolves for the US (or maybe Canadian) government with the view to finding a good excuse for culling the wolf population. His report was ignored because he came to the conclusion that while wolves do occasionally take an old or ailing moose, the basis of their diet was moles and other small animals, and salmon. The main reaosn he found for falling moose populations was excessive recreational hunting.
The last wolf has posted something quite the opposite, that they are very efficient predators which kill 7 of 10 moose they hunt. Who is right?
Lash
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
Yes I happen to remember...didn't read the book, but it was made into a movie but no I don't think it was called Cry Wolf...of course the scientific community thought he was completely daft--can't for the life of me remember the name of it--was trying to look it up and came up blank..there is a Cry Wolf movie, but completely different storyline
Oops..just found it..it was called Never Cry Wolf and the movie was from 1983
I was always under the impression that any predator animal only goes after the weaker or sick animals..sort of a cleaning up of the survival of the fittest concept
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
11 Oct 08
This so reminds me of a conversation I just had. The MSgt in charge of all the recruiter here was asking who/if were voting for (I am sure he wanted to hear McCain since most military folks are republicans).
We said that we are both registered, I vote independent and so does my husband (which he didn't seem to like)
I said I wasn't sure but 99% of the time I don't vote mainstream, that my vote would probably go to Nader again (which just about made him fall off of his chair).
My husband commented that he did like McCain but he chose a poor VP choice, so he lost the vote. My husband gave his explanation of why he did like Palin, which included the wolves as well as that she and McCain do not see eye to eye on many issues.
The MSgt proceeded to say that she wasn't well known, she is a woman (ie compete with Hillary), etc. I told him well anyone who is into the environment or has a clue knows her from killing the wolves from helicopters. Then he tried saying that well, people don't pay attention to that and odds are that most of the population doesn't know who she is. I cam back with that same group of people probably can't tell you who is president right now and they don't deserve a vote anyway because they aren't well informed. He shut up LOL
I don't think she is wonderful. I think she lies frequently then tries to cover it all up. She is too wishy washy. Ever wonder why they find so much dirt on her, but none really on Biden? I don't think she is a good politician, I am not even sure she is a good parent. I wouldn't want to be friends with her. I agree with the creepiness.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
11 Oct 08
I have been an environmentalist for years before it was "cool". I had teachers that taught about how we should be recycling and be environmentally aware before it was a mainstream thought. I remember my parents thinking I was "crazy": not eating hot dogs and very little meat, worried about them recycling, not wanting to eat anything that involved styrofoam.
Odds are if someone has done something horrible - I know who they are and they piss me off LOL For me, her being VP is no better than putting in a dog fighter like Michale Vicks.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I haven't heard much "dirt" on Biden either which is a good indicator that Palin who has had a truckload of info surface about her is the lesser person to ever consider voting for. I never even heard of her prior to McCain naming her as VP candidate..if he WAS to choose a woman to sway those who backed Clinton, I'm sure there were better women involved to choose from
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@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
11 Oct 08
I heard her being discussed on the show that Whoopie Goldberg has and Obama as well and I think they are both scary, Obama with his sus contacts of his past and her with her mega religious beliefs, I think she is the typw of person who try and inflict her beliefs on the world, I really do think it is time that in elections the people get to vote on the policies as well as the candidates...I just hope you guys make the right choice because the world is in enough trouble now and I guess we tend to look at England as the mother country and the US as the father country so I hope you vote wisely...
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
11 Oct 08
I hope people wise up and start looking at the other candidates that are on the docket. George Washington was right, bi-partisan politics were the worse thing to happen to the US.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
To be honest I'm not thrilled with either candidate for president....but I can't help thinking the McCain/Palin choice is probably the worse one..Yes, I see Palin as the type to inflict her viewpoints on us as well....viewpoints I'm against.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
11 Oct 08
hmmmmmm I read about this about a month ago so I dont see where there was a secret/
I dont hold with shooting from planes or killing the pups.
If were me I would relocate then to a place they do no harm to any one.
and they sure are digging deep to find something wrong with her arent they!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
It may not be so much as a secret but it's not something I think Palin wants out in the open or completely known about her
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
15 Oct 08
One more reason to dislike Sarah Palin. Actually, she has creeped me out from the beginning also. I just cringe and cringe and cringe at the thought of that woman a heartbeat away.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I think Palin creeps a lot of people out, even die-hard Republicans
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@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I am honest, I am for Mccain.BUT---- I hate the cruelty to animals and to kill them for sport is very wrong. TO SHOOT WOLFS FROM A HELICOPTER IS NOT FAIR HUNTING AND TO KILL THEM WHEN ITS NOT FOR FOOD IS HORRIBLE.NO WONDER THAT ANIMALS GO EXTINCT BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT RESPECT LIFE.I hope she realises that its ungodly to be cruel to God's Creatures.....she should have heard enough out crys to get the message....that is so cowardly!
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
She's was probably the worse candidate going to be on the McCain ticket...she even thinks that the war in Iraq was sanctioned by God...sheesh...this is a dangerous woman
@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I must say the things that I do not like about Palin are stacking up. This is just another one of those things that is unexuseable in my book and I can't believe people love her so much! What is there about her to like? Do you like that she speaks big words? Do you like that she fires anyone at the drop of the hate simply because they wronged her family? Do you like that she is only in it for herself, pushing all of her agendas to get what she wants so her family can benefit? And do you like that she's in for killing innocent animals for sport? NOT FOOD BUT SPORT!
I really can't stand her. If she gets elected I am sure we're all headed for a downward spiral.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
13 Oct 08
You have to admit it was good strategy on McCain's part to have Palin as the VP choice to sway perhaps women who were behind Clinton, but from the word go, I just didn't like her, and like you the more I find out about her, like the wolf issue, and her anti-environmental stance the less I care for her.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
12 Oct 08
Does she have the slightest chance to be up there at all? I heard mostly people talk about Obama or Mccain. If one of these two becomes president, wouldn't the other one becomes VP? See I don't know if this is how it goes but that's what I thought.
I never heard anyone mentioned her achievement in the past either. I mean there are a lot of senators and governors so for a vp or president hopeful I think people would want to look for past achievements they have done for the country or else who will bother voting for them?
So now I know why animal slaughter doesn't stop happening. There are those in the government that allow it or at least choose not to care. Well I hope animal activists also know this before it's too late. I don't even think she has a chance but you guys still have about a month to election that's a lot of time for her to catch up.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
13 Oct 08
Guess you are confused about our politics.LOL....its one one hand you have McCain, a Republican and his VP choice is Sarah Palin, while Obama is Democrat and his choice for his VP is Joe Biden. I think McCain only choose Sarah Palin, a woman to sway women voters who were backing Hilary Clinton who lost out the Democratic bid for President
@Bd200789 (2994)
• United States
16 Oct 08
That is horrible. It's one thing if you have to kill an animal for food, but just for sport? I can't imagine killing anything, for any reason. I certainly don't want a vice president who could do something so cruel. Plus, if she doesn't have any regard for her state law, can you really expect her to follow any federal law she doesn't like?
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Oct 08
Good point...yes if she has so little regard for state laws, what will she do with federal laws she doesn't like?
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
16 Oct 08
This literally makes me sick in my stomach, Pye. I've signed various petitions about this issue and it breaks my heart that something like this could go on and that someone who is a position to be a heartbeat from the White House advocates and even participates in it.
This may sound strange to those who don't know me well but I've often had a sixth sense about people and I've always felt that anyone who doesn't care about animals couldn't care much about people either. It's almost like a part of me knew from the first day I saw Sarah Palin that there was a very good reason I didn't like her AT ALL and I now know for sure I wasn't wrong.
Annie
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I have that sense too, especially with animals...I just don't trust anyone that has so little regard for animals
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
11 Oct 08
Hey there! Altho I'm not happy about wolf shooting, period. For this particular issue it might be helpful to read about it on Factcheck.org. While it is true that she authorized the shootings -- not the shooting of pups, which she actually may not be aware of since it was a decision apparently made in the field, from what you wrote -- Alaska is very different from the lower 48 states, and I think we can all rest assured that Gov Palin would not have any interest in initiating slaughter of animals in the lower 48. Alaskans live differently, and a majority of them, according to factcheck.org, actually hunt for their food as a general rule, not just for sport. Again, I'm not at all happy about wolf shooting, and my thought was why not ship their excess wolves down here where they are trying so hard to reintroduce them? But it is not true either that she is just trigger happy, slaughtering wolves left and right. Again, I don't agree with the killing, but at the same time, we have to consider the differences in most of our lives and an Alaskan life, and we also have to realize the shooting was authorized only for reduction in the numbers, not for pure sport. My point is I don't think it makes her as much of a monster as Defenders is trying to paint -- it is their job to paint that picture. She's an Alaskan. And some Alaskans are against the shooting too, but it's kind of like criticizing the American Indian for hunting, in that it is their way of life and their way of putting food on the table. (No they don't eat wolves, but the wolves are growing in numbers to the point of threatening the caribou, moose, etc.)
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
LOL..first dogshrink...I am part Native American..heehee... and yes I can understand the viewpoint of killing animals for food rather than mere sport...but read my comment I made under poster #4.....wolves have been the target for a long time, even before Palin came into power...all due to the fact that when vacationers go to Alaska they can have their caribou steak..I've now come across articles about Palin and yes legit ones, where it shows her sitting over a caribou she just shot ....she was taught hunting by her father when a young girl...so this woman comes across as a very pro-hunter person..I also have a link to that article about Palin also in poster number four response.
As I mention...I'm not fond of either candidate...but I just never was a pro McCain person to begin with. In fact I haven't a clue whom I'm voting for
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I don't want to be arguing here. Not at all. But I have to say it TERRIFIES me that people will vote based on someone hunting. Hunting can be changed. The kind of damage Obama can do to our freedom cannot easily be undone. So many of you sound as if you would be voting for McCain, except for Palin. But voting for Obama and his socialist tendencies is just too dangerous for our country. We need protection from terrorists, economic relief, and much more. But Obama has a health plan that FINES parents if they don't get insurance for their children!!! This is the kind of stuff that has already cost us dearly, with parents having their children taken away for ridiculous reasons, even while other, truly abused children die under the crazy liberal laws that don't allow parents the right to parent their children anymore. I don't like hunting. But I hate having my freedoms taken away even more. I hate having every part of life legislated by people who are trying to make everyone the same. And I hate that human babies are being slaughtered, crying in pain as they die in trash cans -- in far greater numbers than the wolves are being killed.
Sorry, but I had to say it.
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@tamarafireheart (15384)
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11 Oct 08
Hi pye,
How evil can anyone get? no, I just hope that McCain will not get in power. I have not really been following the polictics so much because of all the mud slinging that goes everytime but for some reason I never liked Sarah Palin ot McCain. I think it disgusting. The evil women.
Bright Blessings
Tamara
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I just posted a new discussion as I'm kind of curious what non-Americans think about our Presidential candidates...as an American I'm not thrilled with either to be honest
@3cardmonte (5098)
•
11 Oct 08
Oh my god,that is so vile! A decent human being would not do this. I also heard she shot a bear too,has anyone else heard that? Its cold blooded murder.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
Anyone who constantly smiles so sweetly and acts as perky as she does must have some skeletons in her closet..LOL
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@mcat19 (1357)
• United States
11 Oct 08
This is only one of many despicable things she has done. She abused the power of the governor's office by firing someone she had a personal vendetta against; she is anti-environment; she doesn't believe global warming is caused by people. There are too many to count. She hasn't done anything except appeal to right-wingers and stir up hate. Not my kind of gal, you betcha.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 Oct 08
She's certainly not my kind of gal either,..if McCain wanted to choose a woman for a VP candidate I'm sure there were a lot better qualified..where the heck did he dig her up anyway?
