Sarah Palin's Dirty Little Secret: Her Wolf Slaughter Program

OH, i pity thos wolves. Its really a bad thing to do and they really spent money just to kill those pups.

Yes, I started hearing about all this weeks ago myself, but I had gotten a new email from Defenders just today, and couldn't keep silent about it any longer

I usually don't get into political discussions.
Now look at what you made me do.

OK so it is not under politics but it still sorta is

Aww...I usually don't get involved with political discussions either let alone start one....

I guess I can forgive you this time

There are plenty moose to hunt. The real truth is that wolves are the most successful predators on the planet, getting 7 out of 10 kills. And that just pi$$es off the hunters.
Aerial hunting is cheating as far as I'm concerned. If these so-called hunters had to go on foot and track them they'd never be able to compete. They are a pathetic excuse for hunters.

I agree.
I live in a hunting state and there are plenty of people that "road hunt" which is cheating and illegal. They just drive around and when they see a pheasant, or whatever they are hunting, they stop and shoot.
I find that pathetic as well.

It's as pathetic as the "canned" hunts..ever hear about these "lovelies"? What it is, is that "retired" wild animals, like lions, tigers, etc from circuses or zoos that are no longer wanted and are sold over to "hunting" grounds....giving the opportunity for big mighty hunters the chance to kill them (hope you read the sarcasm there)..so these jerks can say they killed a "wild" animal like a tiger...they are far from wild after having spent most of their lives in a tame type of environment and wouldn't have a clue how to survive in the wild

Not too far from here is a paid hunting place.
They have ducks that they feed and than they have the hunters come out and when it is feeding time you know what happens.
It is illegal to put out salt licks for deer but yet this isn't.

This all makes me sick and very pi$$ed off. I can understand when people HAD to hunt to eat, but that's not the case anymore. We have farms for the animals we eat and they aren't treated very well either.
Hunters may eat what they kill but they don't have to do so. They still go to the supermarket for food, so why hunt at all.

Trophy hunters I don't understand but hunting for food I do.
A few years ago we were doing very badly financially and deer meat was what we lived off of.

And don't get me started about killing animals just for their fur either...saw a big a do with PETA trying to get Armani to stop using fur in his clothing and the fur comes from rabbits..don't ask the videos I saw about that. And when was the last time you went to a store and saw mink meat...what do they DO with the animal bodies they kill just for fur?

OMG, Pye, all of these posts about killing innocent animals for no good reason brings me close to tears. Thank you for bringing this to people's attention because I have a feeling if more were aware of where Palin's "heart" really is they may not see her as such an average mom, just like the rest of us. She's as far from being like ME - or my mother, daughter, mother-in-law, my daughter's mother-in-law, and on and on - as she could get and still have female parts!
Annie

I hope people wise up and start looking at the other candidates that are on the docket. George Washington was right, bi-partisan politics were the worse thing to happen to the US.

To be honest I'm not thrilled with either candidate for president....but I can't help thinking the McCain/Palin choice is probably the worse one..Yes, I see Palin as the type to inflict her viewpoints on us as well....viewpoints I'm against.

You are so right, Lilaclady! Both are horrible choices. It's unfortunate that it pretty much comes down to Democrat or Republican, as if there aren't any other choices. There are other choices but the truth is, they'll never get enough support or votes to sit in the Hot Seat. And it's sad, because we lose out.
Politics is big business just as much as big corportations and the politicians in power like it just the way it is. We don't stand a chance against them.

I haven't heard much "dirt" on Biden either which is a good indicator that Palin who has had a truckload of info surface about her is the lesser person to ever consider voting for. I never even heard of her prior to McCain naming her as VP candidate..if he WAS to choose a woman to sway those who backed Clinton, I'm sure there were better women involved to choose from

Pye, I was thinking the same thing! Why couldn't he have picked someone else, man or woman! Anyone BUT her!

I have been an environmentalist for years before it was "cool". I had teachers that taught about how we should be recycling and be environmentally aware before it was a mainstream thought. I remember my parents thinking I was "crazy": not eating hot dogs and very little meat, worried about them recycling, not wanting to eat anything that involved styrofoam.

Odds are if someone has done something horrible - I know who they are and they piss me off LOL For me, her being VP is no better than putting in a dog fighter like Michale Vicks.

Oreo I'm not going to argue with you either...the issue about wolf hunting has actually been around for many years in Alaska even before Palin came into the picture....

Do you know WHY the moose and caribou hunters are actually in an uproar? Because heaven forbid, visitors don't get their caribou steak while on their vacations in Alaska. I'm not talking about people who may hunt moose and caribou for their livelihood, I'm talking about killing them just to satisfy vacationers to Alaska....I read this a LONG time ago.

As far as state-issued permits....as the Defenders of Wildlife website indicates, the cubs that were killed were done against state law and policies. Defenders of Wildlife is an animal organization that has been around a long time and is of good reputation.

I just don't care for Palin....period.

Wolves do not upset the balance of nature, HUMANS do. Wolves are part of the natural enviroment and actually keep nature in balance. I do not want to argue with you but I must tell you, you are misinformed. I spent years researching wolves, I know everything there is to know about wolves and am currently writing a book about wolves. I know what I'm talking about. But don't believe me, find out for yourself. All I'm asking is for you to shop around a bit and research a little more.

Just wanted to give the heads up about this...it turns out Palin is a real gun ho hunter...look at this article where she is posing over a caribou she hunted and killed

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1687959.ece

(This is NOT a referral link but to an article about Sarah Palin}

Hey Oreo!
Thanks for the link.

Guess this is a side note not related
to the wolf hunting.

I read almost all of the rumors (on the link provided)
about Sarah Palin on the site.
And the person tried their best
to refute most of the rumors.

I guess that answers the question I asked
earlier today, about why so many people
hate Sarah Palin. I'm just surprised anyone
would believe that trash.

You know she's been accused of slandering
Obama and his campaign, but looks to me
like someone (probably Obama supporters)
have done their best to stomp a mud hole in Palin.
Did you read those horrible rumors about her children?

Hey, I'm not trying to get political over this,
but why can't people leave her children out
of the mudslinging. They're not in politics.

Very sad.

Thanks again Oreo
and PyeWacket for the interesting conversation.

I am sorry but I have heard this argument by right wingers time and time again that there are too many animals and they must be killed to make way for us well I do not and never will accept that we have the right to exterminate any species just because it might get in our way. Every creature on this earth is part of a balanced environment except for mankind who is constantly trying to destroy the balance and the planet.

Just because people eat Moose is no justification to wipe wolves out or to murder their pups. That is not culling that is extermination and it is totally wrong. I have heard she also wants to get rid of the national parks up there so she can drill for oil and no doubt if the polar bears and seals get in the way she will kill them as well. I mean polar bears are already in trouble it would not take much to wipe them out and if we keep on going there will only be a few animals in zoos and then I suppose one day people will want that land as well and kill all the zoo animals. It has got to stop. This desire to have everything has got to stop, this greed will end up destroying our planet. I am just hoping that I will not live to see the destruction and I have no children who will suffer but my partner and my brother do. I feel sorry for the world they will inherit.

I just had to add Oreo...this wolf hunting campaign isn't something new..and it's not just the 14 wolves killed in June...Palin endorsed and placed a bounty for wolf hunting, and to prove they have killed wolves they must provide a severed leg from a wolf....nice huh?

I'm so with you on this..maybe because the wolf is my "totem" animal I can't stand the idea of needless slaughter of the wolves...I've been an activist of just about every animal cause, but especially about wolves.
Like you I'm sure many people don't know Palin's full story...think it's about time they did don't you?

Yes, I do, but people don't care. There's things about each of the candidates that are bad and their followers do not want to hear it. People believe what they want to believe, it's as simple as that. I don't think it'll do any good.
Case in point: my own husband
He knows better than anyone what wolves mean to me, and about all the false propaganda against them.
And then there are the people who think I'm crazy for choosing the welfare of wolves over that of people.
Gandhi once said 'The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated.'
I believe this to be true. And the US is seriously lacking.

To quote you
Gandhi once said 'The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated.'

I came across this saying a long time ago and agree with it one hundred percent...if we don't have compassion for animals then why does it surprise people when mankind in general is barbaric to mankind himself.. American isn't the only country though to be barbaric toward animals...I can think of other countries as well, and I'm sure you know specifically which I'm alluding to since in one country there are NO animal rights at all

LOL--I may be American but like many even WE don't understand our politics...LOL
Yikes I never saw that picture...I'll have to try and find that..

Bingo...I just did some tracking and found an article and the picture of Palin sitting next to the caribou she just killed

Well done! That was the first picture of the woman printed in our Australian newspapers. Doesn't that just make you sick?

Even worse! There is a picture of her sitting on a seat which is a DEAD BEAR! Would you believe that? I love the bears. The bears are one of my pet charities. I am totally horrified. In the caribou one we had, she even had a child with her. Just lovely to teach your little children to slaughter animals! She has to go!!! It's all up to you people now. I will be devastated if you let them get in.

I agree with you. I do watch American politics because what they do impacts on us but I object to the killing of the wolves. It is totally wrong. Wolves have been wiped out from almost every place on Earth and it would be sad if they are also lost from Alaska. I do not understand how anyone could kill such beautiful creatures.

I was able to find that photo of her sitting on a sofa with a dead bear next to her...gross.

Gross indeed! Makes you wonder about the mentality of the person. Perhaps the men like and admire her for her hunting, shooting and fishing abilities?

Anyone who constantly smiles so sweetly and acts as perky as she does must have some skeletons in her closet..LOL

She's certainly not my kind of gal either,..if McCain wanted to choose a woman for a VP candidate I'm sure there were a lot better qualified..where the heck did he dig her up anyway?

I don't want to be arguing here. Not at all. But I have to say it TERRIFIES me that people will vote based on someone hunting. Hunting can be changed. The kind of damage Obama can do to our freedom cannot easily be undone. So many of you sound as if you would be voting for McCain, except for Palin. But voting for Obama and his socialist tendencies is just too dangerous for our country. We need protection from terrorists, economic relief, and much more. But Obama has a health plan that FINES parents if they don't get insurance for their children!!! This is the kind of stuff that has already cost us dearly, with parents having their children taken away for ridiculous reasons, even while other, truly abused children die under the crazy liberal laws that don't allow parents the right to parent their children anymore. I don't like hunting. But I hate having my freedoms taken away even more. I hate having every part of life legislated by people who are trying to make everyone the same. And I hate that human babies are being slaughtered, crying in pain as they die in trash cans -- in far greater numbers than the wolves are being killed.
Sorry, but I had to say it.

LOL..first dogshrink...I am part Native American..heehee... and yes I can understand the viewpoint of killing animals for food rather than mere sport...but read my comment I made under poster #4.....wolves have been the target for a long time, even before Palin came into power...all due to the fact that when vacationers go to Alaska they can have their caribou steak..I've now come across articles about Palin and yes legit ones, where it shows her sitting over a caribou she just shot ....she was taught hunting by her father when a young girl...so this woman comes across as a very pro-hunter person..I also have a link to that article about Palin also in poster number four response.
As I mention...I'm not fond of either candidate...but I just never was a pro McCain person to begin with. In fact I haven't a clue whom I'm voting for

I just posted a new discussion as I'm kind of curious what non-Americans think about our Presidential candidates...as an American I'm not thrilled with either to be honest

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