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myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers 4 years ago

Does anyone know where this saying originated from?

Do you find this saying strange? I mean what is a cat doing in a bag in the first place?

In the past my cats have certainly found strange places to hide or fit into like shoeboxes and practically any cardboard box they are absolutely fascinated in!

But we were always careful never to leave plastic bags around for them to get into
I know the saying who let the cat out of the bag means that you have put your foot in it (another saying!) and that you have revealed a hidden secret

So have you ever let the cat ouf the bag and can anyone enlighten me where the saying came from? So I can be purrrrfectly contented and my curiousity sated without killing the proverbial cat, yikes another horrid saying!

Paws for thought indeed!


Just Who Did Let The Cat Out Of The Bag
 

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tags:  sayings, bag, cat, baayo, buy a pig in a poke
 
1. myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)   4 years ago

I don't have a cat but I am surprised how they manage to hide underneath a car and they are so wise to get out of it before the driver puts on the engine. © ronaldinu 2008


myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)  4 years ago

I don't have any idea where the saying has come from I hope I will learn from other users

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2. myLot reputation of 85/100. huswyf (964)   4 years ago

If I recall correctly, it comes from when people used to buy piglets and they would be put in a sack - sometimes the purchaser would get home and discover their piglet was a cat and they'd been conned.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Thank you for satisfying my curiousity! That's kinda cute, buying piglets!


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  4 years ago

This is also Correct.

HICCUP/

Relates to the sale of piglets and the second one relates to punishment, for more scroll down to me,
HICCUP/

Comment (11) I think.

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3. myLot reputation of 17/100. ColdSunshine (513)   4 years ago

My cats actually love playing in bags. When my husband goes to the health food store to buy our produce and fruits, they always use a paper sack. Our cats LOVE to play in that paper bag until it's a pile of shreds on the floor.

In any event, I wonder that myself. I also want to know who "they" are because "they" sure say a lot. You know who "they" are but you really don't know who "they" are. As in "you know what they say..." Who is "they" and why do they say so much? Why do I want to believe them?


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

We would buy our cats toys to play with but NO, they weren't interested, give them a cardboard box and they'd be all over it!

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4. myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)   4 years ago

I have no idea but it does bring up a good theme: Where do all these strange sayings originate? However, yours probably comes from the fascination that cats had when shopping bags were made of paper, not plastic. I saw many a cat playing wildly and lengthily inside those.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

It used to make me laugh because we'd go out and buy the cats lots of toys, apparatus to climb on etc, but no they'd much rather have an empty cardboard box, we could have saved a fortune in buying stuff for them when cardboard boxes come free!

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. eaforeman6 (4202)   ranked 3,509 out of 19,253 in questions & answers   4 years ago

thumbupMeaning

Disclose a secret.

Origin

There are two commonly heard suggested origins of this phrase. One relates to the fraud of substituting a cat for a piglet at markets. If you let the cat out of the bag you disclosed the trick - and avoided buying a pig in a poke (bag). This form of trickery is long alluded to in the language and 'pigs in a poke' are recorded as early as 1530.

The other theory is that the 'cat' referred to is the cat o' nine tails, which was used to flog ill-disciplined sailors. Again, this has sufficient historical record to be at least possible. The cat o' nine tails was widely used and was referred to in print many years prior to the first use of 'let the cat out of the bag'. The 'nine tails' part of the name derives from the three strands of cord that the rope lashes were made from. Each of the cords were in turn made from three strands of string. When unbraided a piece of rope separated into nine strings. The 'cat' part no doubt alluded to the scratches that the knotted ends of the lash made on the victim's back, like those from a cat's claws.

http://www.phrases.org.uk...


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myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Thank you my friend, yes it was very helpful, much appreciated!


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  4 years ago

Good one eaforeman6,You went to the same place (site)as I did.
Done well,

I did know, but I wanted it to be worded better.
HICCUC/

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. Kashigurl (1166)   4 years ago

Wolfie I found this for you:

Who Let The Cat Out Of The Bag
The origins of this phrase come from when farmers would sell chickens at market. Most of the time they would just throw the chickens in a bag and sell them as however many were supposidly in there. But cats were cheaper than chickens so many times farmers would put a cat into the bag with the chickens and if someone suspected something they would open the bag. At that point the cat would jump out of the bag, thus giving away the secret

Have fun,

Kash


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Thank you my friend, curiousity now satisfied ;0)


myLot reputation of 97/100. Kashigurl (1166)  4 years ago

You're welcome sweetie! I came across it and just wanted to help out! Hope you are doing well luv!

Your Cub,
Kashi

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35275)   ranked 54 out of 19,253 in questions & answers   4 years ago

I am thinking I read this somewhere. I think in the days of open air markets, people would sell a pig in a poke (bag). Dishonest dealers would put a cat in the bag instead of the piglet, to fool the buyer. Sometimes someone would "let the cat out of the bag" and the dirty dealer would get caught.
I think this is it, either that, or I just made up my own myth.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 26 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

You are not the first person to mention piglets so there is truth in the saying or myth! I liked the piglet story best, that's kinda cute isn't it, but the thought of any animals carried around in a bag seems cruel doesn't it?


myLot reputation of 96/100. jwfarrimond (3266)   ranked 1,646 out of 19,253 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Further to the previous replies, the practice of selling piglets in a sack is also the origin of the saying "Don't buy a pig in a poke" meaning of course, don't buy something without examining it to make sure that it is as described by the seller.

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8. gbemoo4tyy (58)   ranked 18,601 out of 19,253 in questions & answers   4 years ago

actually the saying is every where in the world and we in Africa where made to understand that the saying came from our forefathers who have the fore site of everything . they are not educated but have the wisdom and understanding from God. you need not border yourself about it but take it the way it is understood by you. provided you can read meanings to it.

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. kellyjeanne (1189)   ranked 3,708 out of 19,253 in questions & answers   4 years ago

Very clever wolfie! I don't know where the saying came from, but, I had to answer because I have to tell you that my cat loves plastic bags. Whenever she hears me rustling them after coming home from the grocery store she gets all excited and looks into every plastic bag like a child. It's so cute. When the bags are empty she'll stick her head in them and finally she'll lay on them. Of course, this whole time I'm supervising her. I would never let her play with them if I weren't around to watch. She is such a card!
Purrs,
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10. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (8254)   ranked 2,030 out of 19,253 in questions & answers   4 years ago

Hi wolfie, This is another of those old sayings of which it is difficult to find the origin. The phase dates back to mid eighteenth century England and had the same meaning as now, but there is dispute about how it first came about. One story says that farmers taking piglets in a bag to sell at the market would sometimes substitute a cat for a pig, and if the buyer opened the bag, the cat would jump out and the trickster would be caught. Another tale says that a cat would sometimes be put in a bag with chickens LOL. It is also said that it refers to the cat o'nine tails with which lazy sailors were punished and was supposedly kept in a bag on board of ships. In the latter case there's no reference to a secret being let out. Blessings.

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