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myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion 4 years ago

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this lady who is deeply religious refused to say anything other than "merry christmas" which apparently wasnt what her job wanted.. so she was fired.. she claimed that if she said anything other than merry christmas it would be against her religion in a sense because she doesnt believe in any other holidays so she lost her job to stay true to her faith..

how could happy holidays be a sin? and do you think she was right in losing her job and jeopardizing her families well being as far as money wise to stick with her "merry christmas"?

i dont see the big deal in happy holidays but well i dont believe in the same religion so that might be why.. but i really wonder if in this period of time where jobs are so hard to get and she did get another job but it paid less to where they are having it tight right now if she shouldnt have refused.. i mean if she hadnt found another job and then they get like kicked out of their home etc i just couldnt see their god wanting that to happen..

do you think god would care and she would be a traitor if she had decided to play it safe for her family and not go against them? or do you think that would just be the first step in weakening her beliefs?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 93/100. scammerwear (647)   ranked 8 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

Wait... Christmas isn't even really a religious day, wasn't it already proven that JC couldn't have been born in winter? Nowadays, its just a day you're forced to buy toys for kids. She lost her job for that?


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

YEP! and yeah they PROVED that jc COULDNT have been born in december (due to the placing of the north star in the story) so the whole holiday "date wise" is based on competing with the pagan holiday yule.. for the major holidays that pagans worship before christianity christians made holidays for the same day or a few days after etc..

but try to tell some one that jc wasnt born ON DEC 25TH sometime! i have had people go CRAZY on me saying i was nuts!!


myLot reputation of 88/100. notlistening2 (25117)  4 years ago

Yes you right Jesus birthday, is not in the bible, and if you tell people that they will curse you out, if he want his birthday known, it would have been printed in the Bible, I don't why people can't stop with they false hoilday, if the woman lost her job she did that to herself, she should have done what her job told her and she would have kept her job.sad

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2. myLot reputation of 34/100. zukepr (11761)   4 years ago

her job gave her specific instructions
and they gave them for a reason
so they couldnt be sued for offending anyone
she failed to do her job as she was told and put the company at risk which made her a liability
so yes it was right that she got fired over it
personally I think she is an idiot
its just words!
i doubt God is going to strike her down for saying happy holidays
seriously Christmas is included in happy holidays so it isnt like she was being asked to abandon her beliefs


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

if they had wanted her to say "hail satan" or something i could understand but happy holidays includes xmas in my book and doesnt say anything against religion.. i think she risked her families future for something really stupid

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3. myLot reputation of 80/100. atacamaval (3014)   4 years ago

If she was doing it because she was christian, I don´t see why the word holidays (as in holy days) didn´t appeal to her. It sounds as there´s more than what it´s said in the story.
It doesn´t look as she found it a sin but more as if she was very stubborn. And if I were running a resort I wouldn´t want a stubborn employee.


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

yeah i bet there is a history with her and her work with problems or something to where they found it so easy to quickly fire her.. like they were waiting because they had had enough

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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)   ranked 969 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

well first of all merry christmas is not happy holidays Merry Christmas is Merry Christmas,

Happy holidays is exactly the politically correct thing to say,

I don't know if the woman should have been fired for saying merry christmas that is a bit much, but if she knew the rules of where she worked and didn't follow them, well rules are rules,

she did have the choice to say happy holidays and christians would know she meant merry christmas

or she could have not said anything at all.


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

yeah its not like people would have thought she was less religious or anything.. i guess she is just super strict on herself or something confused

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5. xxxmetalettexxx (89)   4 years ago

What's the big deal with Merry Christmas? I think that's insane! As a Christian, God comes first (for me personally anyways.) It's His 'holiday'. Has been for all of time as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong). If anyone has a problem with the real meaning of Christmas than they don't have to celebrate it.
I think that's unfair to her, but very noble of her. Bravo. I would loose my career to this, I would never disrespect God by saying Happy Holidays.
That's just my out look on this as a Christian.
If it's ever illegal to say Merry Christmas, than I will spend the rest of my life in prison. It's unfair to Christians to turn our celebration into a secular ordeal.
Like I said, correct me if Christmas comes from some other belief or situation. Because as far as I know, Christmas was originated to celebrate our Saviors birth.
If you don't like that, than come up with your own holiday so you don't feel left out. Sorry if I sound angry and mean, but this really upsets me.


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

yule existed first then christmas.. christmas was made to be the alternative to pagan yule since in that time they were trying to ban anything pagan..

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6. myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 1,033 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

Saying Happy Holidays would not have killed her. All I can do is roll my eyes as I read these of these "oh woe is me" tales.
Ever since the nonsense of the "Holiday Tree" came out I've called mine a Pagan Tree. lol


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

i know the world has gone crazy with this crap.. its insane!!

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7. fladave008 (17)   4 years ago

i think that this young lady should not have lost her job because of saying " Merry Christmas" further the dunderhead that fired her should be slapped up beside the head with a shopping bag full of commercial ideas as that seems to be what he likes (commercial). CHRISTMAS isn't about the stores, it's about JESUS CHRIST
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I am not a religious person but but i don't agree with the commercialization of christmas.
In closing i would like to say to her former employer if they read this: From my home to yours MERRY CHRISTMAS and may god bless you....


myLot reputation of 100/100. jillhill (17704)   ranked 1,037 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

Same here! Merry Christmas to the dunderhead and his family.....!

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8. myLot reputation of 84/100. zackyo7 (262)   ranked 2,247 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

I believe that God would care because her heart is in the right place. Even though the holiday is pagan she still accepts the birth of Jesus. So I think God would have worked out a way. As a matter of fact whether she had said merry christmas or not God would have still been there for her. But you know this world is just getting crazier day by day.

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9. myLot reputation of 100/100. jillhill (17704)   ranked 1,037 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

Personally I think she did right...that's whats wrong these days...there is too much government trying to be fair to everyone that some of us that believe in Merry CHristmas aren't allowed to get others upset....well if I couldn't say Merry CHristmas where I work I would do the same thing....even if they fired me. I think so much of this is going overboard...if everyone wants everyone else to bend to their beliefs.....then I feel like I am being discriminated against because of my belief that this is truly the season of Merry CHristmas....

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10. myLot reputation of 95/100. Ithink (1502)   ranked 2,028 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

Well first of all I dont see the big deal in saying either or for anyone to say either to me. It is a way for someone to wish you good basically. That said, she sounds like a very stubborn person. She knew what her job wanted and she didnt do so, therefore she got fired. I wouldnt have gone about it that way as the economy isnt the greatest but to each their own. If she wanted to put her family at risk that is her business I guess.

The fact that this isnt even when JC was born doesnt seem to bother anyone either.


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

yeah i know.. im not christian but i dont get upset when people say merry christmas to me and i say it back.. to me its the same as happy holidays since its usually all treated in the same manner..

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