The Fairness Doctrine--what do you think?
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31633)
United States
February 17, 2009 3:25pm CST
It was repealed as unconstitutional and not serving the public well in 1987 and now they want to bring it back. This would mean that nobody on the public airwaves could voice their opinions without having someone there to argue the other side. I think not only is this compromising our freedom of speech but it would be very boring radio. Do I misunderstand this Fairness Doctrine or do I have the concept right?
I have talked with people that are angry that talk radio seems to have only conservatives, there are no liberal talk shows. But they tried that and nobody wanted to listen, so whose fault is that? These people tell me the Fairness Doctrine would force people to listen to both sides. What do you think of it?
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11 responses
@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
18 Feb 09
If you truly listen to talk radio you would know that these hosts don't always have guests or callers who agree with them. So to the people who you know who argue that there are only conservatives on talk radio - tell them just that. You can also say that radio is a business - and one business which is not getting bailed out by the government - yet. So in private business (except for NPR and PBS) you must show a profit in order to survive. If these hosts weren't bringing money into the station, they wouldn't be on the radio. I think the Fairness Doctrine would stifle opinion and am completely against it.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I know there's a lot of discussion on talk shows. In fact, one reason I stopped listening to one popular talk show was that very few callers disagreed with the hose! How boring!
We don't need the FD and it's a violation of our Constitution. If it passes we are in big trouble and well on the way to turning into Cuba.
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@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Well - some people do think that Castro is a humanitarian?! Then there are others who have actually lived under his rule and feel quite differently.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Hello Dragon54u,
If I may, I'd like to answer your question with a question.
How many tenets of the United States Constitution will a "Fairness Doctrine" violate?
OK, I'll get this going with the most obvious violation, the First Amendment on grounds of violation of freedom of speech and perhaps peaceful assembly. The less obvious disregard of the laws of our land pertain to the violations of the 4th, the 9th, the 10th and the 14th amendments.
The latest is that the imposition of a Soviet styled "blanket of thought control" may perhaps also include control over the internet. I'm unable to cite a web source, though we heard this tonight on Brett Baier's hard news on Fox. It wasn't a commentator. And, the provided quote cited a Dem. Representative who went on the record to include the internet under the auspices of a proposed "Fairness" or "Localized" Doctrine. To paraphrase the quote: "We need to make sure that people on the internet read and hear alternative perspectives." Again, it's paraphrased, though pretty accurately according to my own memory and my Husband's.
If those words don't scare the crap out of every American citizen, then quite frankly I don't know what will!
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I, too, heard that they wanted to extend it to the internet. How long before we're afraid to talk on the phone or have a conversation in public? I'm scared by the fact that they're even thinking about something like this! Thomas Jefferson said something like 'a little revolution now and then is a good thing' and I certainly agree with him. We're long overdue for an uprising to take this nation back from the people who have ruined it--politicians!
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
18 Feb 09
People are still flippin' their wigs over the fact that George Bush may or may not have authorized the listening in on private citizens' conversations and the like. I believe some leftist wing-tips are actually trying to sue him? Anyway... I'm not trying to get into that.
Bush may indeed have listened to you. However, you had nothing to worry about unless you were a terrorist.
If Obama listens to you, it seems like you're going to be in a world of hurt for simply having a dissenting viewpoint.
Do I make my "All Liberal or Bust" sign now, or should I wait until he amends the 22nd and names himself dictator for life? lol j/k... but seriously!
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
You're right, and it really scares me that anyone would even consider this thing. I would hope that the people wouldn't let it happen.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
18 Feb 09
While I don't know anything about this...
I can understand why they would do it.
If someone is allowed to broadcast one side of the story without any opposition... it becomes gospel and everyone is going to believe it.
Under that scenario... someone could broadcast some total lies... and people would believe them.
These things did happen in Australia several times... when some respected DJ annonced something which was totally wrong and caused panic amongst the population.
There was a bushfire in the center of Sydney in the nineties... and someone annonced that the people of the North Shore needed to get ready to evacuate... which was ridiculous.
There was another false report about a bank going bankrupt... and people rushed out on the bank to get their money out.
The most famous one of all was from Orson Welles when he annonced an alien invasion. lol

@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
18 Feb 09
Well... that is not right...
If you have an host with a talk radio show... the host is required to only talk about the truth and the facts. Otherwise he and the radio station would get sue for defamation. So that's cover and should not be a problem.
Furthermore... as the public is invited to debate the issue with the host... there is no-one stopping the opposition to call and object to what is being said.
I think that you are right. A government trying to stop people debating the government's policies is anti-democratic and going towards dictatorship.
However... a good host would debate those issues while remaining neutral. If you want a large audience... you don't want to alienate half the population by taking one side. It is not the role of a radio host to run an anti-government campaign... as this could amount as a coup d'etat and betrayal.
A good host would let the public voice their opinion on a particular policy... rather than making his own opinion "gospel".
And from what I have seen on television in the past... your hosts in America seem to have too much freedom. Nothing is sacred.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Aussie, they are proposing this not because of regular radio but because of "talk radio", which consists of a host with an agenda and an audience. It's a sharing of opinions, discussing issues from different points of view, and the government wants to stop that. It insists that if a host is against a particular political party, there should be an opposing person there to argue their point. It's our "liberal" democrats seeking to silence the "conservative" republicans.
I think we already have laws against spreading false information like yelling fire in a crowded theater. However, that didn't stop Dan Rather from falsifying documents against former President Bush and he got off with no punishment, no lawsuits or discipline for dragging a man's name through the mud and demoralizing the country. But then, Mr. Rather is a democrat!
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@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I agree that the government does not need to be involved in every aspect of our lives, but to what degree must we tolerate ignorance?
Presenting both sides gives balance and encourages understanding and compromise...
Presenting one side, encourages an "Us vs. Them" mentality, that applauds unquestioning supporters.....
Ignorance is an evident problem in our society. Can we really support a person's right to remain ignorant when ignorance has caused so much already?
In the end...the problem has to do with the people that are oblivious to the truth...
Some of this talk radio is prejudicial, propaganda that encourages discrimination against other American groups. How is that American?
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Talk radio is prejudicial because it is targeted to the audience that wants to hear it. If they deviate from that the audience will leave. It's the same with tv shows but you don't see them insisting that a violent scene be followed by a peaceful one. The whole thing is ridiculous. Government doesn't need to be involved in speech issues unless it's to protect that right.
People are willfully ignorant. They don't want to learn and you can't make them.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I think if they bring it out, it's simple due to conservatives on talk radio. It couldn't be because of the television networks or newspapers. Liberal media is all-encompassing. Even from mediums where the news is supposed to be impartial, a biased leaning for the left still shines through.
This has the makings of an imperfect storm, in my opinion. Got the White House, Congress, more than half of the nation, the minorities, and now want to lay claim to talk radio... because of Rush and a few other guys who can't land TV shows due to the majority of the networks being left-leaners?
There seems to be nothing "fair" about this doctrine whatsoever.
Will they implement it in schools and give both sides to the life debate: Evolution/religion? How about abstinence/birth control, the real history of America/fairy tale picture books, Slavery myth/fact, etc.
If they're only going after political speakers (they may not be, so I could be wrong) then it's a blatant move by liberals to snuff out the conservative voice.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
That's what they've been saying. They also have plans to carry it over to the internet. You won't be able to maintain a blog without the FD coming into play. This is very scary!
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@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
17 Feb 09
While I am aware that the AM airways in Houston, Texas, have indeed been hijacked by Republicans, it is still a shame that government have to be brought into every aspect of people's lives! So, the Republicans have taken over the airways! Why not simply compete for your own space? People often listen to what they like! You cannot force people to listen to that which they do not wish to listen to!
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
You are right, but the Fairness Doctrine will force people to listen to what they don't want to. They'll turn off the radios and the stations will fail. The government has no right to tell me what I can listen to or how talk show hosts have to say things.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
18 Feb 09
The fact that the liberal radio talk shows failed is NOT a good reason to try to hogtie freedom of speech in this manner. I listen to talk radio once in awhile...used to listen more before I got laid off...and it's not hard to figure out which side of the aisle a host leans towards. that doesn't mean that he/she is incapable of presenting a valid argument. I, personally, don't want to listen to nothing but debates on talk radio and, no, I don't see anything "fair" about this.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I've listened to PBS radio and I don't think they're flaming liberals. They're interesting, to me. I like conservative talk radio but a steady diet of it is boring, they say the same stuff day after day. I listened to Air America a couple times and it was incredibly boring. I think the gov't should butt out and let us all speak as we wish and listen to what we want.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Well there have been several liberal radio talk shows....they all went bankrupt because no one was listening. Whose fault is that? Not the conservatives.
WHile conservative radio shows have had some success. So baiscally liberals want to use their stations and shows to get their ideas out. Well if people wanted to listen they could haven listened when they had liberal radio shows. Or try again with a liberal radio show. Maybe they could actually get people to listen this time. If not than it is simply supply and demand.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Yes, it's supply and demand but the liberals can't get the demand so they can't supply--they want to get their message across on the conservative airwaves since they can't maintain their own. Sounds like sour grapes poor sports to me and they're willing to compromise our freedom of speech.
@ulalume (713)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I am not to sure about what the Fairness Doctrine asks for (I've never actually heard of it, but I was not even born when it was in place; so its understandable); but from the sound of it it sounds like a good idea in some ways. I would like for there to be no longer "conservative" or "liberal" radio, as it is shows like that that split up our nation. My father only listens to Rush Limbaugh, and that inadvertantly makes a person the most biased in the world. If there was someone always on to debate with him, I would be able to at least be sane listening to the guy. When it is so one sided everyones political view is half-filled.
My only problem with this bill would be that, it is an infringement on free speech. I think radio companies should implement it, but the likeliness of that occuring is very slim because the money is found in the bias.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
18 Feb 09
In my opinion there is nothing right about it. Everyone has the right to say what they please, listen to what they want and speak freely. This would only be for conservative talk radio. And let those stupid people who listen to Rush Windbag listen to their hearts content, it keeps them busy so they don't bother everyone else. (I'm a conservative who can't stand that Windbag!)
Once they impose restrictions on radio, it's only a matter of time before they tell us we can't stage a protest or gather in groups of more than two for purposes of communication. I'm not kidding, this is how it began in Cuba and Germany. Wake up, don't let them take your rights away! 

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