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myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics11 months ago

I'm not a happy camper right now. As some of you know my son, who is 31 years old, worked in the construction industry for many years. He was a drywall finsher and a painter. He also did some electrical. Then the illegal immigrants started hanging out in front of Home Depot and Lowes, the real estate market started to sag, the economy started to sag and it was cheaper for the general contractors to let their legit employees go and to hire these illegal day workers for cash and no benefits.

(I know, blame the general contractors but that doesn't make me feel better, does it?)

So, my son has been working at various jobs ever since he lost his last construction job...along with his insurance. He has a family to think about...he's been working two jobs when he can and cutting wood in the evenings to sell on the weekends to folks with woodstoves and fireplaces.

But, it's not enough and one of his buddies who's in the Reserves has convinced him to enlist. It will mean more income every month...possibly medical benefits...definitely medical benefits if his unit is activated.

Activated???? That means that they're going somewhere far from home to fight in a war! It took every ounce of self control that I have in me not to cry while he was on the phone talking about all the benefits of this decision.

This is my only son. My first born. My heart. He hasn't signed anything yet but he will. He will sign the papers that could cost him his life and for what? Because he can no longer earn enough to support his family because some slimey, non-English speaking creep took his job? I don't even know why I'm posting this because if anyone gives me any cr@p I'll probably end up getting banned from this website. Can you guys understand...this is my SON! He would not be taking this risk if our boarders were secure and we didn't have upwards of 12 million illegal aliens living in this country stealing jobs from Americans.

So, I guess I have to put a question in here to make it a legit discussion. Here's one....can you feel my pain? If a mother has to worry about her son it SHOULD be because he feels the need to serve his country...NOT because he needs the income to support his family...along with the risk.

 
 
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OLIJULSAR (1063) response was accepted on 3/30/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5606)   ranked 61 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

If he is joining the service for the money than he is joining for the wrong reasons. I hope and pray deep down he has deeper motives and realizes them. I can understand your concern and sympathize, I'm torn between telling you to talk him out of it and telling you to support his decision and be proud of him.
The fortunate side to this is that Iraq is winding down and the surge in Afghanistan may more involve troops leaving Iraq instead of fresh troops. With the economy as it is, we may not nessesarily see quite the militaristic tendencies we have seen as of late.
You, your son and your family are all in my thoughts, for what ever you feel that is worth. Best of everything to you.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Thanks xfahctor. He's definitely joining for the money...that extra income is his main motivation. I tried talking him out of it without letting him know how opposed I am to it because he is taking some pride in doing it but he's in bad financial shape and he sees this as the only way out. I just hope nothing breaks out someplace else.

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2. myLot reputation of 68/100. miamilady (2498)   ranked 311 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

I can feel your pain. I have a son. Too young to serve right now, but the thought of that possiblity does scare me sometimes. I feel your concern.

I can't completely agree with your sentiments about illegal aliens though.

Many of them are simply trying to do the same thing that your son is trying to do.
Put food on the table for their families.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Thanks Miamilady. I'm assuming from your user name that you're in Florida like I am and I've said before that I have nothing aginst the Cubans who risk their lives to excape the persecution they face in their homeland.
But, my son is in Maryland. The illegals he competes with for every dime...every bit of food on the table...are from Mexico. Maryland is not near any boarder. Those people are there to undercut American workers and I've seen them laughing it off in the parking lots of the liqu0r stores up there while downing their Coronas. Let them work in their own coutry to put food on their family's tables. Don't force America's young men to join the military in order to support their sons and daughters.


myLot reputation of 66/100. connierebel (405)   ranked 1,138 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

If the illegals are trying to put food on their tables, there are plenty of jobs for them in Mexico. If you look at almost anything in the stores, if it doesn't say "made in China" than it almmost certainly says "made in Mexico". That's wheree all our jobs have gone. If we don't have enough jobs in this country for Americans, than we don't have any extra for aliens. And the job situation is so bad in New York state that I was seriously thinking about enlisting myself when I finish school, although I'll look into moving out of state first.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

If you move out of state, pick the state carefully because they are everywhere! I hope that you're able to find work and I also hope the the worksite checks continue so that these people will not have such an easy time stealing jobs from American citizens. Good luck to you. happy

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. OLIJULSAR (1063)   ranked 668 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

I am so sorry spalladino and I can feel what you are going through. i too only have one son and I know how I would feel if he had to go to war in order to be able to take care of his family. It just isn't the way it was meant to be.
My prayers go out to you and your family that your son will find a different route he can take that will be safer for him.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Thanks so much Olijulsar. I've been praying that God will land him someplace safe while he's in there.


myLot reputation of 98/100. OLIJULSAR (1063)   ranked 668 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

I will help you pray too my dear friend that God will keep him under his wing safe and sound.......^j^^j^^j^


myLot reputation of 98/100. OLIJULSAR (1063)   ranked 668 out of 6,401 in politics  10 months ago

Thank you so much for best response.

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4. myLot reputation of 22/100. kennyrose (4063)   ranked 2,879 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

I'm so very sorry your son is making this discussion,I hear the fear in your heart,My oldest daughter died almost four yeas ago of a sudden heart attack,she was 42 year's old,I know the pain of loosing a child and the first born.

Illegals are being allowed to destroy our country there is even tons of money in this 800 trillion dollar spending bill signed last week to enable illegals to stay in their homes and even buy more homes while Americans are loosing their homes like flies moving in with family or in the car.

One's life is not worth loosening it for money,medical, benefits and to have medical and benefits is not worth a human life,I wish as you do that your son would rethink, this if he joins not long after he dose most likely he will be sent Afghanistan and that is no place to be in my opinion.

If a person is joining to serve for the country maybe that is different but to joining for a job,medial,benefits there is still is a safer way.

Maybe he has to leave where he lives and get a job out of state, there still is work,he may have to go to the west cost,California,Oregon,Washington,some where because their is work still available.
Maybe instead of working for an employer with his trade he could become self employed and he can join the union for drywall,painter,has he thought of joining the union in his trade?
I hope he will not join even more so if he has a family,as times get really harder women and the children need their husbands and dad's at home to protect them,family has to come first.
I hope for all your sakes your son finds a better way,thinking out side of the box.

Hugs&Prayers,
Rose








myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions, Rose. My son and his girlfriend are separated so he's not going to leave them to work someplace else. He's already tried that. He was down here in Florida with us for awhile and with his best friend (my other son) in Alabama for a few months but he missed his baby girl too much. She's only 2...almost 3 and she's his entire reason for living. His ex won't go with him if he relocated so he has to stay in the area for the sake of his daughter and his stepdaughter who loves him. Trust me, I'd set them up in a minute if they were willing to move down here and both he and his ex know it. I have half of a duplex sitting empty right now.

He's been working for a concrete company and has been trying to get into an electricians union but it's difficult. There are no construction unions in Maryland that he can turn to, unfortunately. I'm open to all alternatives though so keep thinking!

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5. myLot reputation of 90/100. mgmagana (2439)   ranked 1,475 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

humans r not aliens...like u said don't blame illegals..blame the contractors..they too r trying to make a living. i think your son is a bigger man for doing whatever he can to support his family even if that means enlisting..others just give up.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

You must have misread my post. Want to play word games? How about law breaking, cheating, liars who intentionally undercut American workers so they can steal their jobs? Is that better than aliens? If our laws were ENFORCED and ICE was parked in those lots the general contractors wouldn't be able to hire them in the first place. I've already made it pretty clear that I'm upset and not willing to look at this situation from the viewpoint of some scumbag who snuck across some boarder and managed to go allll the way to Maryland in order to steal my son's job.

Yes, my son is a bigger man. He's 6'2" so I'm sure his coffin will have to be specially made. Funny as it sounds, I would prefer that he gave up, that he called mom every week for money. I would feel more secure sending a check to his house every week then sending him letters overseas.


myLot reputation of 90/100. mgmagana (2439)   ranked 1,475 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

yeah putting your son in a coffin is a great way to think positively! like someone else said...if contractors didn't hire them then they wouldn't be out there...it's even better when people like u don't hold them accountable because then they think they do nothing wrong....if you'd rather your son beg u for money then start giving him some...show him you'd rather support him maybe then he won't go. n i meant give up like killing themselves n killing their families...would that be a better route for u? i doubt it!


flame2000 (85)   ranked 6,039 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

"humans r not aliens"

If someone wants to live and work in the U.S they must do so as legal immigrants.
"alien" by law is any person not a citizen or national of the foreign country in which they live...(alien means foreign to an area or country )not green and from Mars.An illegal alien is a foreigner without a illegal right to work.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Oh, believe me, I'm trying to think positively but the FACT is that any reserve unit my son is assigned to could be activated at any time so I have the same worries that every other mother has. It's so easy to sit back and put the blame only on the contractors...and I agree that they're at fault as well so don't tell me who I do and do not hold accountable...I'm ticked at everyone involved. But don't tell me that they wouldn't be out there if they weren't being hired by the contractors because they would be and they are. Do you think they go home after the contractors load up? Redoing your bathroom, sir? Doing some painting? Cheap help is available right outside the store! It's so nice of you, by the way, to use the word "beg" when I in fact did offer to help my son financially when he laid this bombshell on me but he refused our help because it's not a short term problem.

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6. myLot reputation of 68/100. bodysmurf (232)   ranked 6,308 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

OMG my heart truly goes out to you. Hopefully, (I am pretty sure) that your beautiful son will come home to you safe and sound. I am so pig biting outraged at this illegal aliens invasion. I cant stand it when the papers refer to them as immigrants, they are ILLEGALS and not immigrants. They need to all burn in hell and get shot at the border. Can you imagine if someone from the United States had the gall to invade other people's country? Some airports they have machine guns guards. It is such an outrage that your poor son should have to do this. I dont know what the heck is wrong with this world anymore, but America is getting raped on a daily basis and I cant stand it anymore. Our poor soldiers that have lost their lives for Bush's oil. TRY TO TALK YOUR SON OUT OF GOING.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Thanks bodysmurf. I've actually assigned his three sisters to that task because I don't want him to know how upset I am about this. The LAST thing I want him to do is to feel guilty about hurting his mom on top of everything else he's going through. I am as outraged as you are and I totally agree...they are not immigrants. MY great grandparents were immigrants from Ireland. They did it the right way...waited their turn and came in through Ellis Island. Even dropped the O in front of their names on the advice of someone at Ellis. But, these creeps can just come on in...live 12 to a house and take the jobs of hard working Americans. It's not just the fruit and vegetable pickers anymore.


myLot reputation of 66/100. connierebel (405)   ranked 1,138 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Yes, they are invading our country and hurting America just as much as if Mexico sent armed troops to invade us. I think if we have a war anywhere it should be with Mexico, not the Middle East. What we need is the National Guard defending our nation like they're supposed to, not being deployed to other countries. And yes, they should be shot if they try to come across illegallly, no matter why they are doing it.

 
7. myLot reputation of 88/100. rsa101 (7434)   ranked 842 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

Well I guess he should have more motivation than money in it. Love for his country and service to his countrymen. That is the reason why we have to join the military. I really think that joining the military is a noble career because you son is serving his country well. But if he is joining just for the money well I guess he should motivate himself more because his life would not be comfortable doing all this stuff.

As a mother you concern is just as valid. Blaming the illegal immigrants may have some points for you, but if these employers won't hire them these illegal immigrants won';t even be interested to stay in your country.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

"Blaming the illegal immigrants may have some points for you, but if these employers won't hire them these illegal immigrants won';t even be interested to stay in your country."

BINGO! Which is why I support any legislation that will heavily fine or land these employers in jail for hiring these illegal ALIEN day laborers. Another question folks should be asking themselves is, if you have work done in or on your home, do you REALLY know who is on or in your house?

I've talked to him twice about this. His only motivation is the money. The fact that he will be serving his country has not come up once. Learning a new skill has come up but that is only secondary to earning the extra money that being in the Reserves will bring in. It's about survival. If he's in the Reserves, he can survivce and, if he dies in the line of duty, his daughter is taken care of.

 
8. myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3080)   ranked 1,324 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

I watched Desert Storm unfold as I was pregnant with my only son. Now he's 17 and the whole thing scares the hell out of me. I'm so right there with you.
The worst part of these illegals is the work they do is substandard just because the companies want it cheap.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Thanks Irish. It's hard to remember that you're a mom with that foot staring me in the face. lol I have never been prejudiced in my life and I took pride in that, even when things got rough for members of my family when the illegal aliens started to focus on the construction industry. But now things have changed. When I was still in Maryland I noticed the influx of Mexicans and wondered how they would survive since there weren't that many innocent little crops for them to pick. It wasn't until after I moved to Florida that it became clear what they were after. And, you're exactly right. The work is substandard...they're not skilled or trained....so essentially, folks are paying the same price for cr@ppy work while skilled technicians like my son are forced to look for work elsewhere...and to sign up to risk their lives for the wrong reasons.


myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3080)   ranked 1,324 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

There are people here who think I really am the guy with the foot. lol

 
9. myLot reputation of 98/100. Opal26 (10164)   ranked 788 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

OMFG! I do hear you loud and very clear and I agree with you
110%! That so does suck! And it is happening here in NY too!
In fact it is happening every phucking where and I hate it
and wish the phuck that there was something that we could do
about it! THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! THEY STAND EVERYWHERE! THEY
TAKE AWAY JOBS, ANY JOBS THAT SHOULD BE OUR JOBS! I no longer
can say that I am not prejudice and that is truly sad! I
hate THEM for what THEY do! It so does suck! I won't even
apologize for my rant! I so do feel your pain Spalladino!
I am not a mother, but I am a woman who cares deeply and
you are my friend and I don't want to have you be in pain
and I don't want your son to have to do this because he has
to support his family! He does not have to go fight in a war
to support his family! They are wars we don't even belong in!
There has to be some other way! How can it possibly come down
to this? It really breaks my heart to hear this!


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Hi Opal! Thanks for caring so much...I don't think I've ever seen you so fired up! It's not an accident that these people have relocated in every state in this country and, more and more, they'll take jobs away from not only American citizens but also from those who played by the rules and came here legally.

 
10. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (5602)   ranked 1,147 out of 6,401 in politics   11 months ago

Spalladino, as a mother my heart goes out to you and I appreciate your fears for your son. I live in Australia and although I agree with and appreciate your sentiments I am not informed enough to state a view as your post is the first time I have had to think about such an issue.

One thing I have to say though is that I think you should be very proud of your son; he sounds like a very decent hard working young man and he has made what he thinks is the best decision to support his family.

The situation certainly does not sound fair. You are right in saying that he should enlist as a calling and not a need for money; it isn't right.

I expect your son is a proud man and he is doing the best he can. I responded to your topic because I feel for you so very much and I wish I could resolve the situation. All I can do is send some prayers out into the Universe for you and your son and hope something comes along real soon before he enlists.

In the meantime give yourself a pat on the back, you are a good mother and have done well raising your boy and you have every reason to be proud of him no matter what happens. thumbup


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9097)   ranked 175 out of 6,401 in politics  11 months ago

Hi Paula. I am very proud of my son and always will be but I so don't like this idea. He's a hard worker...always has been. He's been working for a concrete company for about six months or so but work has slowed for them, too. Thanks for your kindness and your prayers. happy

 
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