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Slavery reparations sneaking in under the radar. email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5483)   ranked 66 out of 6,381 in politics10 months ago

I supose it should have been expected, but here it is none the less and I haven't seen a breath uttered about it in the news. Enter the Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-40

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 79/100. jonesy123 (3254)   ranked 282 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

This has been tried multiple times in one form or another over the last few years. It eventually will make its way through and reparation will have to be made. What's another trillion, right?

I don't know how they want to sort this out though. This has now been almost 150 years ago. They have to trace all those relatives and birth records were somewhat scatchy back then. Plus, going forward with the discrimination, that affected and still affects newly arrived Africans turned Americans. We'll end up paying everybody who has a hint of color and is a citizen.

IMO, at one point people simply have to get over the past and not use it as an excuse for their own shortcomings.


myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5483)   ranked 66 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

I'm sure soemthing like this comes up every so often, but we gotta keep an eye on these seaky bastarrds anyway, they'll pas anything when we aren't looking.


myLot reputation of 19/100. PrarieStyle (1140)   ranked 233 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

It's sure to pass now that we have a half black president.


ebreeze1 (28)   ranked 6,119 out of 6,381 in politics  9 months ago

why u you have to be so racist??????????


myLot reputation of 79/100. jonesy123 (3254)   ranked 282 out of 6,381 in politics  9 months ago

What on earth is racist about this? Do you even know what that word means or do you just like throwing it around because it sounds good?

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2. myLot reputation of 41/100. redyellowblackdog (3989)   ranked 1,058 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

If this actually comes to pass, I'd be willing to bet it sets back race relations 100 years. They might get the money, but blacks would then face worse discrimination by many more people than they have in a long time.

Blacks need to decide. Do they want the reparations or people's respect? They are not going to get both.


myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5483)   ranked 66 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

you ever wonder if they do stuff like this to keep us devided on purpose? mush easier to get away with stuff if the population is busy squabling amongst itself.


myLot reputation of 41/100. redyellowblackdog (3989)   ranked 1,058 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

One can't rule it out that is the object. It has to be considered because on a legal basis the whole concept of reparations is bogus. There is no question that legally, according to precedent, no descendent of any slave is owed anything by any descendent of any slave holder. Now, if there were any slaves and former slave owners still alive, that's another thing.

If you want to make some of the reparations advocates mad, tell them they owe us for getting them to America where even the poorest blacks are better off than the majority in any African country.

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3. myLot reputation of 80/100. atacamaval (3046)   ranked 1,223 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

I shouldn´t answer to this post as I´m not an american citizen. But I can only see it through logic. Are we (is mankind, I mean) going to go back in time to repair all evil done to everyone? Are we going to start with Columbus here? Or should we even go farther back?lolWhat´s the limit? Will we repair what romans did to jews? Or to celts? How about learning anthropology and archeology with the sole idea of repairing?
I think it´s much better if we accept our past mistakes, try to stop commiting the same ones over and over again (you have an immigration problem NOW and they are people)and use the money you have now to have a better present.
I decided to answer because we also have these problems in my country. There are unjust things to repair NOW.
As for Afro-Americans in the US, you have gone a long way since the 60s. I just wish there were more people like Dr. King in the world. And I also wish they did not have to be killed in order to become immortal.


myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5483)   ranked 66 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

I think even the late great Dr. King would be appaled at the idea of reparations.


myLot reputation of 51/100. Taskr36 (4627)   ranked 394 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

That's solid logic and I've used it myself before. My Slavic ancestors were oppressed by the Rus thousands of years ago. Where are my reparations?


myLot reputation of 80/100. atacamaval (3046)   ranked 1,223 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

Then comes the following thoughtlol: I, for instance (as many people in this continent) have a mixture of many bloods. Italian and German, Spanish and Croatian (to name a few). Maybe a bit of myself has to repair another bit. Left hand makes repairs to right hand for something that happened 500 years agorasp I loved thatw00t

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4. myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1926)   ranked 60 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

Nope the news has not uttered one word about it. I noticed it on gov track last month. But I have not checked lately to see where it was at. Is it still in subcommittee? This is just a waste of money. But who knows, the gov seems to be really good lately at wasting money so it may stand a good chance at passing.

THis is going to start a snow ball effect. THe native americans are going to want it next....and then women. We got the vote and equal standing in this country AFTER the african americans so I guess in their line of thinking we should get reparations too. Which is stupid. There are no african americans alive today that were ever slaves. And there are not women alive today that did not have the right to vote or equal rights as men. So who would we be paying reparations to and why? Everyone has the same opportunities and rights in todays society so why no one deserves reparations.


myLot reputation of 66/100. krissy32 (170)   ranked 4,709 out of 6,381 in politics  9 months ago

It is a fat waste of taxpayer resources. Sooner or later people are going to have to get over the notion that the world owes them something, it doesn't. It is up to the individual to make something of their lives. If they choose not to do something worthwhile with their lives, that is their problem but they should not be whining for a handout. With the resources of the economy swirling down the commode at a rapid pace, the country can no longer afford to pay reparations for every person who wants to sit on their can and do nothing with their lives.

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5. myLot reputation of 19/100. PrarieStyle (1140)   ranked 233 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

I never owned slaves, my family never owned slaves. I'm not racist, yet I don't feel I should have to pay for something that happened to them in the past.


ebreeze1 (28)   ranked 6,119 out of 6,381 in politics  9 months ago

just a way to not say im sorry.


myLot reputation of 79/100. jonesy123 (3254)   ranked 282 out of 6,381 in politics  9 months ago

How often are people supposed to say sorry?

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6. myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9040)   ranked 175 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

As Lil said, this is going to start a snowball effect and, personally, I believe that native Americans have a very strong case. I also believe that the Seminole tribe down here in Florida have the money, the power and the political clout to get that ball rolling on behalf of all the native american tribes in the U.S.

If folks are going to drink from the well of past injustices, I have a bone to pick with the United States in this area and I'm sure there are many other Irish Americans who feel the same way. I was robbed of my rightful name, as was my father and his father before him, going back I'm not sure how far. My ancestors came to this country bearing a good and proud Irish name...a name that started with "O'". They were*instructed* to drop the "O" when registering at Ellis Island in an attempt to hide the disgrace of being Irish. They lived in poverty, they were still discriminated against...looked down upon and, while we're at it, the fact that they were Irish Catholics added to their plight.

So, I want reparations, too, on behalf of myself and my siblings, my cousins, my father and his siblings, my grandfather and his siblings as well as their children, my greatgrandfather and on and on. I want an official apology for every Irish man and woman who was robbed of their rightful name by people acting as representatives of this government. I want a study done on the injustices done to the Irish immigrants, both economically and psychologically, and how that effects us now. Many Irish immigrants became indentured servants upon their arrival in this country and were treated very unfairly, itentionally kept in poverty. I know the origin of the "paddy wagon", I cringe at that and at the other offensive stereotypes of the Irish that are the butt of jokes, especially every St. Patrick's day. This nationally recognized*special* day dedicated to my Irish heritage is celebrated how? Wearing green, drinking green beer, getting drunk and making Leprechaun jokes.


myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5483)   ranked 66 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

Come to think of it, I want in on this. In fact, I want it from several countries. I am Pagen, my people were presecuted in eastern Massichusites, and in england and Irelend, thousands more were hung, burned alive and stoned to death. In fact, I want reparations. In fact, you are catholic, YOU owe ME, because WE were the "snakes" driven out of Irleand by your beloved st. Patrick. (you realize I'm being sarcastic right? lol)


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9040)   ranked 175 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

Ok, when I get my money I'll send you a percentage for "snake reparations" but, when you get yours, you have to send me a dollar for giving you the idea. lol


myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5483)   ranked 66 out of 6,381 in politics  10 months ago

actually, your christian, so you have repairations comming from religious minorities like myself because we, along with atheists, muslums and other minor religions have engaged in opressing you for the last 15 years. So, lets just say, I owe you, you owe me and we're even.

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7. myLot reputation of 74/100. bobmnu (2651)   ranked 191 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

What about the people who came to this country as Bond Slaves, are they going to be counted. What about the people in Georgia who were force over here to work because they were in prison. Don't forget the Chinese who were brought over here to work on the Rail Road.

If this passes are we gong to sue the tribes i Africa who sold the people into slavery or the Arab Pirates who captures ships and sold them into slavery some coming to the US?

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8. myLot reputation of 91/100. speakeasy (1429)   ranked 47 out of 6,381 in politics   10 months ago

If they wanted to pay reparations they should have done it a long time ago AND Blacks were not the only slaves in the US. Also, you cant just give every black person in America money because a lot of them came to the US AFTER slavery was abolished.

Here is a link to an article that says quite a lot about why it is no longer possible to pay "slavery reparations" - http://www.helium.com/ite... think you will enjoy it.

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