16 year old in custody under the Patriot Act  

I am still trying to figure out how he is an enemy combantant or domestic terrorist. He has not ties to a terrorist group that has been reported. If he even did the threats than it looks like a stupid prank pulled off by an immature 16 year old. HEck a bunch of teen agers played mailbox baseball in our neighborhood this weekend. Lots of distroyed mail boxes. When they find them are they now "enemy combantants"? Yes if he did the threats he should be charged. But not under the partriot act. But in a regualr court.
I hate the fact that the patriot act is "above" our constitution. NOThing should be above our constitution.

I couldn't agree with you more. This is a serious violation of this boy's rights.

yep. But it looks like so far no one but his mom is standing up for him.

We will have to wait and see what happens. But I still think this is a HUGE over reaction and show why we should NOT have the patriot act.

No argument here! I have always thought the Patriot Act was just a tool to circumvent our laws. Maybe this will get it repealed.

only if the mom is willing to sue the federal government over it.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867/
Here is a local story on it out of north carolina.

In it it says "In a bi-partisan effort, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., last month introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives a bill that would narrow subpoena power in a provision of the Patriot Act, called the National Security Letters, to curb what some consider to be abuse of power by federal law enforcement officers."

But it does not mention any north carolina elected officials in it. I hope she has contacted them. And if they are ignoring her than she needs to keep contacting them until they listen.

Hannity O'Reilly and Beck should be told about this. They are exactly the loud mouths this situation needs.

I agree. Anyone know how to get a hold of them? I don't think htey read the email box that is listed on the fox site. So I do not know if they get the tip on the story. Any better way to contact them? I hate Rush but he would be another one. He is simple. Someone jsut needs to call in to his show.

Hannity has a radio show, but I live on the west coast so I never catch it live.

I think Beck reads his email; he gets story ideas, and I know O'Reilly does because he reads them on the air....

I didn't even think of Limbaugh...

Someone reads the emails for them and then picks a few for them to read on air.

I will see who I can contact about it. The word needs to get out. None of the major news organizations are covering this. Which is strange and wrong. This is an abuse of power by homeland security. The whole country should be told about it.

As much as I don't like Limbaugh, Hannity or the other conservative pundits you guys have mentioned, I agree letting them know about this wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd also like to suggest you contact some of the more liberal commentators like Keith, Rachel and Ed despite your feelings about them. I really think something like this should transcend liberal and conservative viewpoints, it's just plain WRONG no matter what side of the aisle you're on. I think I'll do that myself but if there are more than one it might be more likely to get their attention. I'm also going to try to "Twitter" them if I can figure out how. I signed up for Twitter but I've never tweeted.
Annie

thanks for the help annie. This poor kid can use all the help he can get. I can't help you with the twitter situation. I have never done it either.
I have an account...just not twittered or whatever you call it when you put out a message.

Our rights have been diminishing for quite sometime now, but never as quickly nor as insidiously as after 9/11 when the Patriot Act was instituted. It has opened a doorway to abuse that they will not voluntarily close. Rampant abuse of power seems to be the virus running through Washington not H1N1.
These abuses will continue until the American People stand up a s one and say no more. We have been quiet far too long. Has anyone noticed that Congress could care less what their constituents think? They pass laws without reading them, they do not listen to the protests of the people. They laugh or call them extremists, bottom line is they have lost their fear. I honestly believe that the only thing that will curtail their total disregard for the wishes of the People would be the loss of their jobs. It is our only leverage. There are so many measures coming before Congress that will affect our daily living that the concept boggles the mind.
This boy is the fist victim of their abuse, I have a sinking feeling there will be more ahead. Especially with the unrest that we are seeing throughout the Nation. The only thing I believe will see us through this is to stand together and speak as one voice. We must fight for our rights and remind Washington that they work for us not the Other way around!***On a side note: Glenn Beck also has a radio show the site does not have an on air phone number, it does have a blog, however. http://www.glennbeck.com/
Perhaps he gives a call in number during the show. Not sure, sorry wish I could be of more help.

Hey, Lil, we're both Twitterers who have never tweeted...or whatever it is they do...lol!
Annie

I completely agree. But it seems the government doesn't.

Here I will share my candy with you (handing you a pink starburst). But I won't share with the FBI. They don't deserve candy.

I agree that even having a patriot act is an abuse of the constitution.
I also think that people need to what up and realize that people's rights are being violated and the constituiton ignored.

This poor mom has been every where looking for help and no one can help her. Why? Because the patriot act give the government the right to ignore anyone they want.
While her son, who may have done a stupid thing, is sitting in jail for two months without legal councel and without any rights at all.

If I was that mom they would not like me very much. Besides sueing them I would be holding massive protests and pressing charges against not only the FBI but homeland security and every member of congress who voted for the patroit act.
Not to metion being on every TV channel I could get my hands on and giving interviews in every newspaper.

Pink Starburst, that sounds good.

They are my favorite.

Absolutely. I was outraged when it passed, and anyone who has ever seen a government abuse it's own power knew it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. I do wonder how many other times similar things have happened, that we didn't hear about because it was much sooner after 9/11 or because it wasn't a 16 year old kid.

xactly. I wonder how many other people this has happened to.

I think most of the time the abuses of the USAPATRIOTACT go unnoticed because it abuses the human rights of foreigners who happen to be Muslim. The act basically allows for legalized racial and religious discrimination. I mean, how can it not when it allows for arbitrary arrest?

Well this kids is not a muslim and is white. But I do think Homeland security and the FBI need to investigated. At worst this kid did a bad prank and should be held accontable for it.....but it not a crime that deserves this kind of punishment. Heck even serial killers are allowed more rights than this kid. he is not even allowed legal counsel or advice.

Oh I know that, and that's why this case isn't being overlooked. If it was a Pakistani muslim boy in the same position, I doubt there would even be a thread about this, especially in his defense.

I would hope you would be wrong but you probly aren't. Which is sad.
As for this story...well CNN is not covering. Neither is FOX. Rush is not even talking about it. Only some bloggers, a few alternative news sites and the local news in south carolina. You would think this would be a big deal....but no one is making it out to be. I guess US citizens having their constitutional rights taken from them is no big deal anymore. Truely sad.

do you know any human rights organizations that would be interest in this?

I know that the Ron Paul Supporters group has already started circulating the video to this case around. I saw it this morning.
Here is the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFVQ0HZz2mc

thanks for sharing the video

thanks annie. IF you find anything out let me know.

I am working on getting all the details on this one. His mother did a interview with the local news about it.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5050332/

It is all over the web. But not on any of the major sites. I have some of my friends in the state of NC doing some fact finding for me.

I hope this is some elaborate hoax. I would hate to think of 16 year old boy locked away for two months with no legal council or due process. No matter what his crime was.

I will let you know what I find out.