Gonna Ruffle Feathers Here....But I Don't Give A Crap  |
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| Okay I'm going to be very outspoken here and this IS NOT, I repeat NOT targeted at all people from certain countries....but I SORRY I HAVE TO SPEAK MY PIECE HERE. Observation: This is not only my personal observation but surely the observation of many people. And that being...I happen to belong to many writers sites including Ciao (there are others like comparedby.us, Reviewstream, SharedReviews)..this as well as many other writing sites have been plagued by cheaters, clicking cartels, plagiarizers,...you name it. It has demeaned these sites and as a result penalties have ensued meaning that REAL hard working legitimate writers from certain countries have been penalized due to the country of origin they belong to AND NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN but simply being associated with the members from these countries who are the biggest causes of the problems. It has also caused many of these sites to change their policies over and over again as how they paid. I'm sorry but I'm about to name the countries involved....mostly Asian orientated countries where members are the biggest liars and cheaters...China, Philippines, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, Thailand... and FOR WHAT?? TO EARN A FEW LOUSY CENTS IN MOST CASES? The real main issue though is that I suspect many of the cheaters from sites from say Ciao, comparedby.us, ReviewStream have now come here and doing the same shitt..I'm seeing more and more cheaters, plagiarizers and sorry, sorry, sorry, but they come from the same countries that were/are banned from places like Ciao...Whatever happen to the ancient oriental stance of saving face, being honest, having integrity? While NON-Asian, I've studied Buddhism, Hinduism, etc...like don't these people from these countries have a concept of karma? Or are too many converted as Christians so karma is thrown out the window? And even if Christian...how about do undo others as they would do to you? To cheat, lie, plagiarize, make a fast buck (or cent) by unscrupulous means is NOT RIGHT...where is your conscious unless of course you don't have one. Disclaimer: THIS IS NOT TARGETED TO ALL PEOPLE OF ASIAN COUNTRIES....but please do listen to the statistics....the biggest cheaters do come from these countries which is why these countries are being banned from so many sites....If things continue at this rate....how long do you think it will be that maybe MyLot will ban these countries as well? If you ARE from these countries.....fight!! Fight against the people who are making your honor untrustworthy in the eyes of the world. Okay off my soapbox. | | | | | |
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1. owlwings (12390)
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3 years ago
| | There is always a steady stream of, mostly, newcomers who come to MyLot to tout their wares or treat it like PickJack or think that copying and pasting stuff from the Web is an easy/lazy way of making money. Thanks to an increasing number of watchful members, MyLot is able to monitor most of these and they either don't get very far or they quickly realise what is good and what is not. It is unfortunate that most (but not all) of them seem to come from the Indian subcontinent which has caused me to think twice (and spend some time researching) before accepting offers of friendship. These people are sullying the name of their race, not only here on MyLot and other sites but in countries where Indians happen to live. It is an ideal that everyone should aspire to, I know, that one should always judge people on their individual merits but, unfortunately, it is rarely possible in real life to escape thinking, even momentarily, "Oh, a young Indian ... hmmm!" Does that sound racist? Well, it is not! I know many people from the Indian subcontinent who live in our community, and I have great respect for them on the whole but I find that I tend to be much more wary of the younger members of the community because of the general impression I have of them from the Internet. | | | | | | |
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AnnieOakley1 (2645)
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3 years ago
| | I AGREE 100%, stormy. YOU ROCK, TOO! | | | |
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4. zandi458 (11483)
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3 years ago
| | Pye...This is the most daring rant that I have ever come across here that goes beyond the boundary of mylot. When it touches other nations it kind of smells politics brewing within the literal world. Excuse me but am not involved in any of those writers sites you mentioned above except for mylot which I have been consistently involved for the past 3 years and have not been convicted of any crime like cheating, plagiarism etc... It is really very sobering to think of what these the so-called citizens of these Asian nations capable of doing all those cheating and whatever that has brought bad image to their countries being listed here. The actions of the few are very degrading to the majority of people from these nations and I have no knowledge that this has come to a serious matter which might warrant a ban for all people from these countries to participate in any sites and probably in mylot should it persists. The truth of the matter must lie somewhere in the middle. The way we handle these issues in the international arena must be very carefully thought out. If we perceived as honest and forthright, I think have the battle is won. | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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3 years ago
| | First of all, I think Ciao could have run things better. When a person writes a review, it goes on "live" automatically, meaning it's posted right away, versus what some writing sites do is one submits work and it's reviewed by the site's staff....if they had done this at Ciao it could have eliminated this plagiarizing problem. I did happen to know many great writers at Ciao, and yes, from many of the Asian countries now banned/blocked from there. One writer wrote the most detailed reviews, that he was so much better than I was, I was a "fan" of his and enjoyed reading his work. Now he's blocked/banned simply due to him being from China...this off course isn't fair as Ciao is punishing all writers from those countries when they should have a better system and be able to block ONLY the offending plagiarizers...don't you think? | | | |
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5. jerzgirl (3245)
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3 years ago
| | To be honest, I wasn't sure this discussion would still be here. I didn't realize the countries had now been banned from other sites. I knew some countries where PayPal didn't go were because of that, but not countries who could still receive payment. It IS a shame that the rotten apples have spoiled it for the rest. I realize a little goes a long way in their homelands since the cost of living there is so much lower - but, it doesn't justify ruining it for everyone else. It appears that ethics have deteriorated worldwide. | | | | | | |
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6. AnnieOakley1 (2645)
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3 years ago
| | That is so sad that a few bad apples can ruin the bunch, but that is the way of the world, unfortunately. There are good and bad in every group, I have found. I have also rejected some friend's requests because they are from those countries. I don't want to simply be 'collected'. Now, if they are participating in similar discussions, participating in mine or me theirs, then it doesn't matter to me what country they are from. Then, there is some common ground to warrant the 'friendship'. | | | | | | |
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7. ColeCash1977 (229)
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3 years ago
| | Thing is they will do it to earn a few cents. Did you notice anything about the countries you mentioned? They all have a very low standard of living and a few cents is worth something to them. That is why you don't see people from countries with a decent standard of living being guilty of the same things. They need much bigger scams to get involved in. | | | | | | |
skysuccess (5593)
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3 years ago
| | I am wondering if Nigeria and Bermuda have a decent standard of living when we do not find them in Ciao but in much much bigger scams. I think scams are not restricted to the minorities, poor, deprived and unknowns. Look at the recent rogue conducts which has led to the downfall of the world economy and the many who had fallen on the biggest scams and hoax. Nah, I just find myself disagreeing on what you have brought up here. Cheers. | | | |
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8. carpenter5 (2217)
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3 years ago
| | Preach on sister! What I hate is someone who either doesn't grasp the language and won't bother to use a translater or just doesn't understand the discussion. Their responses don't make sense. Either they're about something totally irrelevant to the discussion, or they're so broken English that you can't figure out what they're trying to say. | | | | | | |
ColeCash1977 (229)
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3 years ago
| | To be honest this is what I hate the most. Content stealer are obvious. Reading some of these posts is just painful. | | | |
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9. darkjedi (4347)
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3 years ago
| | Hell you shouldnt apologize at all, who cares if you ruffle any feathers, dont be PC being PC is fuucking bullshiit. And you are damn right. Hell almost every time a damn plagiarizer is found on here they are from one of those damn countries. Hell what do you expect? Most barely have any education at all, barely know english so can barely type it at all, so the only way they can do anything is by copying it. Hell im surprised they actually know enough to find something that half time goes a long with the discussion or anything else. You know what im surprised at? That people from damn commie china, where they dont even care about their own people and the internet is censored, are even allowed on here. After all they might learn about freedom and shiit from americans or other people. Cant let that happen. And before anyone says im racist or I should apologize or any bullshiit like that. Just let me tell you I wont. Fuuck that. Im not PC in one single damn thing, and you can rot in hell before Ill ever apologize. | | | | | | |
anuraa32 (787)
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3 years ago
| | Okay how can you prove that every person who is plagarising mylot, is an Indian or an Asian. And why the use of damn for the countries of Asia. That is not racist but rude. And why damn commie China. Who are you to decide whether they should be allowed here or not. When mylot has not made any such restriction then why does it matter to you. And be more tolerant and not brand contries like that. How can you make assumptions that most dont have education and barely know english. Are all the people from the so called english speaking nations perfect in english. Have some decency about damning any country. Even though most countries are democratic, it does not give any one a right to pull down any other country. | | | |
darkjedi (4347)
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3 years ago
| | Oh I didnt mean that they shouldnt be allowed on here by mylot, I meant that I was surprised that they were allowed on here from China itself. I didnt say every single one, I said every one I have seen are from India and the other countries. Hmmm how can I assume they dont have much education? Very easily. I was surpised that you were from india. I could actually make sense of what you were saying and there wernt any misspellings at all. Obviously you are either not from there originally or you have an education. A good one too. | | | |
Anora_Eldorath (3661)
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3 years ago
| | Jedi- Wasn't it China who put taps on all of the US laptops that were taken into their country during the Olympics? Namaste-Anora | | | |
anuraa32 (787)
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3 years ago
| | I am originally from India, born and brought up in India. And actually not being out of the country even to Nepal where passport was not needed. There is a lot of young people who have had access to education and good one at it. When I did my schooling and went through my graduation years, there were no international schoolsa and colleges in India. Now in the past ten years there are so many of them. Therefore there is this huge section of students getting international education. I consider myself a individual with average education. So there are many people who are better off than I am and you will find them here online too. The issue is people who fall in the education bracket or home and family background bracket similar to mine, are either not aware of mylot or considered it a waste of time. The people who join or register for mylot are individuals from very traditional families, who were forced to go to vernacular language medium schools, dont have access to english novels, do not see channels airing programmes with english as base for conversation. Mylot is the only outlet for them to use their english. And so the cut paste which unknowing becomes plagarism in your words. Half the people dont really mean to do it. So that brings down the number of conscious cheaters to a very low number. On their basis dont brand the entire population. When we were supposedly educating ourselves the first lesson we received from our language teachers was that when you use a language, learn to think in the language. So when I use english, I think in english. When I am using my Mother tongue or my national language I catch myself still thinking in english but yes I think in those languages when I am using those. What you have observed here is not a proper representation of the general population. This I can say of India, Phillipines, China and Japan. They are good in English too. Remember this, we are not only learning English. We are also studying our own local languages. | | | |
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10. lumenmom (1426)
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3 years ago
| | Sometimes it is necessary to bring things to light even they are unpleasant. There are always people who are willing to do the unscrupulous to get ahead and make things bad for everyone else. I am sorry to hear that so much of this is going on. I love the conversations and interactions here and it did not occur to me that there was so much cheating going on with the other sites and possibly here. This does hurt the integrity of the system and before long none of these sites will be willing to pay anything. Who wants to pay people to lie and cheat? More importantly, if people would take the time to offer genuine works, they might actually have something of value to offer the community. | | | | | | |
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