Well Slap my Wrist and Call me Pagan!  |
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Several years ago when I first got online for more than "Hi, how are ya?" I signed up to a website because I liked their E-cards. I hardly used them though and frankly forgot all about them. Several days ago I received an email from them, the thrust of their message being:
"We want to show the world how important it is to be able to share the Christian faith and that starts with publicly declaring 'I am a Christian'. Sign the declaration today, and enjoy the freedom we have to call ourselves Christians.
Make your declaration now!"
Well I politely declined. I told them that as much as I enjoyed their E-cards, as a now practicing Wiccan, I couldn't participate in their 'public declaration' which entailed adding my name to their online mailing list and having it go who knows where all over the net.
I thought that was the end of it.............. The other day a friend sent me an E-card. And I thought........oh, cool, I'll send one back from the website I have bookmarked.
Well slap my wrist and call me Pagen, because I have now been BANNED from that E-card site! I couldn't get access. So I emailed the admin and this morning I received a terse reply:
"We regretfully inform you that we believe you joined our Christian site under false pretences. May God forgive you for your pagan ways. We can not."
Well needless to say, I've thinned out my bookmarks and made an offering to the Goddess that these 'Christians' one day understand that love and tolerance and understanding comes in many guises...........and not all of them through "Christian Soldiers"!
What's the last website you got banned from (besides mylot! lol)?
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21. Anora_Eldorath (2599) | 6 months ago | Sparks-
That's not very Christian of them is it! This is what disturbs me about the faith, it's a beautiful faith with wonderful teachings, but so few actually follow those teachings. My final communications paper was on Spirituality in the Workplace and this was something we talked about because it's still a very touchy issue and controversial one. As a Pagan I've run into several problems, especially at my first teaching post where it was a literal witch hunt. I used to walk on egg shells, not tell anyone what I believed, and now I've changed that. I pray as well that the Godddess in her wisdom will do what is right and what is needed.
I don't personally think that I've ever joined a group under false guises, but I do still read certain Christian items because of the teaching themselves, yet no member has ever asked me to leave. In fact I belong to an online Gnostic group that has been very welcoming.
I did get banned from one group for modified people, and after having my name removed, banned from signing on, I actually received an email a few weeks ago giving me updates on their latest expansion. I personally do not support their work anymore and don't actively encourage anyone to go participate. Oh, I was banned because I encouraged safe body modification practices. Go figure!
All I can say is there are lots of websites with beautiful Pagan e-cards so let that site have theirs and enjoy the sites that don't care if you are Pagan or the what not.
Namaste-Anora
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | I joined the site years ago after receiving a card from there from a friend of mine. I was new to the net and bookmarked the page link because I thought e-cards were so cool! lol Never occured to me I could be banned! As for signing up under false pretences, that's a hoot because I hadn't started down my Wiccan path yet. Some people just carry the 'intention' too far and get lost themselves....and that failing is not confined to just Christians these days unfortunately.
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | Oh Lori, you know my short term memory sucks! That's why I depend on my bookmarks! LOL But I figure, with anyone and everyone able to have their own website these days, there are bound to be a lot of 'bounders' in the mix. I just happened to sign up to one! LOL No great loss being banned from it. And yes, God has to be laughing. He doesn't really have a choice if you think about it. LOL
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23. Signal20 (1830) | 6 months ago | That website must be based out of the county I live in here in Tennessee:) Sounds just like the people that live around here. If you don't believe what they believe, or go to their church, then you're going to hell-but they'll of course pray for you along the way. I don't even talk to anyone here anymore, I get so tired of listening to the hippocritical hatred that spews out of their mouths.
Nope, can't recall ever being banned from a site. Just threatened with suspension for voicing my opinion:)
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | I"ll bet my bottom dollar it's based in the Bible Belt! LOL
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24. Riptide (1456) | 6 months ago | WOW! So much for christian tolerance and forgiveness. I'm surprised they didn't send you a virtual stake and try to give you a good old fashioned virtual witch burning lol.
You know, this is the third time I am trying to reply to this thread and the page keeps changing to some kind of ad. I hope mylot gets that under control soon.
Anyway, I can't remember where I got banned from last, except mylot lol.
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | I gotta admire your tenacity in getting your response posted Rip! LOL Good on ya! As for your comment..........yeah, I think it was the 'pagan' part that got their knickers in a twist. Good thing they don't have my address or I might have gotten a stake in the mail that burst into flames upon opening! LOL
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | Hollywood has destroyed the image of pagans. I've yet to see a movie that portrays pagans or witches or Wicca they way it really is, and has been for thousands of years. But then, Hollywood portrays Canada poorly too, so I tend to use books as a source of research rather than movies or tv. Most people these days are too lazy to read and educate themselves, and depend way too much on what they 'see'.
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26. debrakcarey (1351) | 6 months ago | JUst as there are many types of pagans and many beliefs within the pagan community....there are differing types of Christians too.
I have also met some people who say they are pagans but knew very little of the actual teachings and played at being all bad, you know the kind....thinking its all about the devil and evil.
So why are you judging all Christians by this one type you came across? I try real hard not to judge all pagans by the few nut cases that I come across.:)
blessings
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | Woah! Back up to sixty! I didn't judge anyone. I simply reported what happened and my reaction to it. And if you'd read any of my responses to the comments left, you'd realize that I am very aware that there are all types of Christians and frankly I don't have a problem with them, but I do object to their problem with paganism, as it's based on their LACK of real knowledge, which makes THEM judgmental, not me! I suggest you read ALL the responses here before you get all self righteous.............
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debrakcarey (1351) | 6 months ago | I wasn't getting all self righteous...just pointing out that we all fall short sometimes.
And Yes, I did read all the posts.
I'm not denying they judged you either. Guess I didn't make myself clear.
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | No you didn't make yourself clear. To say "so why are you judging all Christians by this one type..." tells me you didn't read all the responses (mine especially) properly. But I'm not going to argue with you. I've certainly made MYSELF clear.
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debrakcarey (1351) | 6 months ago | I was speaking of the tone of this entire discussion. Not your comments in paticular, but the comments in general. No need for you to get upset...just was wondering why, if christians are suppose to be perfect, and never ever be unloving or unforgiving amd tolerant... why not expect ALL of humanity to be perfectly loving and forgiving and tolerant? My point merely was that no one is ever totally living up to their beliefs all the time. It saddens me to hear of people who call themselves christian to have treated you that way. But it saddens me too...to see comments making fun of christians...when all the while those who said negative and sarcastic remarks are doing the same thing...being unloving and unforgiving.
I guess if I'd been kicked off a pagan site...and started a discussion about it and many non pagans came to respond and made fun of the pagans, it would be all right for them to do this? NO!
So...I'm sorry I darkend your discussion. Won't do it again.
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27. tamarafireheart (12556) | 6 months ago | Hi sparky,
How dare they bann you!!! still its their lost, I once had a bible basher come to my doorand told them I am a Pagan, they looked at me and told me to REPENT and it was the devil's work, OMG! exscuse the pun, they told me I was evil, so I told them if i am so evil why are they taking a chance standing on my doorstep? and showd them my witches Bible and they leged it down the pathway. Yes I have been banned from a site too recently. Love and hugs.
Tamara xxxx
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Mikaela_taz25 (1056) | 6 months ago | am a Roman Catholic Christian! but what those people are doing is unacceptable. I want to know their site so that i could teach them a few. they're completely delusional..
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | Tamara you are a woman after my own heart! LOL I would have paid money to see them leg it down the pathway! Priceless!
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28. crimsonladybug (1959) | 6 months ago | Sometimes I think Pagans are better "Christians" than probably 80% of the Christians I know.
What I mean by that is the ideals that they are taught in their churches and their homes are all too often little more than words floating on air to them. They teach it, they learn it, they can recite it forwards and backwards but they don't practice it. The biggie is "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Most of the pious, devout Christians I know are the most judgmental people ever (keep in mind the words "most" and "I know" meaning that what I say here does not apply to all Christians all over the world, just the ones that I know personally). If you don't conform to what they believe to be right, proper, or acceptable, if you are homosexual or agnostic, if you have had an abortion or (in some cases) use any method of birth control, then you are wrong, plain and simple. That, by the definition of judging that I am familiar with, is judging people.
But the Pagans I know also teach those values and ideals as well as practice them. In my experience, Pagans (Wiccans, Druids, whatever the "sect") are considerably less judgmental. When we say, "do as thou wilst, lest ye harm none," we really do treat others the way we would like to be treated. We forgive people for words and actions that hurt us or that we are morally opposed to.
I really don't mean to offend anyone by this, Christian, Pagan or otherwise. I really am basing this comparison on the people I know directly in my life. Plus I did say 80% so there's always a chance of falling into the other 20%. 
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | You spoke your opinion very well and I totally agree. And if anyone gets on your case about it.......no worries. I've got your back! Well said!
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| 29. Sundaymorning (42) | 6 months ago | I have never been banned from one. Once I tried to join a site which did not accept proxies, which I was using for security purposes. I think that is very rude of them to exclude you because of that. It is quite closed minded.
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | I think people with closed minds should be the ones banned, don't you?
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30. moondancer (2948) | 6 months ago | Well, to be a Christian organization they sure don't act Christian. Another thing they are judging you just because you would not sign their message. Their email cards are free for people to use. What goes around comes back around, and they will be judged for their actions. No, I have not been banned from a site, not yet anyway.
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sparkofinsanity (3528) | 6 months ago | Well I guess some sects of Christians still really fear the practice of paganism. Too bad really, because their own belief systems are based on the old pagan rituals and beliefs.
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