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myLot reputation of 97/100. incredibleDNA (1085)   ranked 155 out of 6,296 in politics5 months ago

Countries like the US, England, Australia, France, Germany, The Netherlands, etc are being torn apart by racism and there seems to be no way to keep htis from developint further. Curiously enough, in countries where the white aren't a majority like Mongolia, japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Barbados, Cuba, etc racism is virtually non-existent. The outright absence of racial riots is the foremost proof of this reality. What is the reason for this atrocity and what is a workable solution to this problem?

 
 
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bobmnu (2602) response was accepted on 8/31/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 73/100. bobmnu (2602)   ranked 188 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

In racially pure countries you find even more racism. I have visited Korea for extended periods of time and noticed extreme racism. You do not see mixed couples walking in the streets. After the Korean War the babies of mixed blood or race, as well as the mothers, were disowned or left to die. I was told that if I moved to South Korea to teach English I would have to have a job before I entered the country. I would have to leave the country for one week every six months. If I lost my job I would have to leave and find another job before I could return. The reason I was not Korean.

In Japan, Korean workers who were brought over during WWII have not been allowed to go home because they don't have any papers and even second and third generation Koreans can not get a good job or even a good education. They get their education from western missionary schools.

If you look at Turkey you will see a history of persecuted of the Armenians and the Kurds. There have been several attempts to take care of the problem through killing or starving them out. The Kurds are persecuted in Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran. Recently some one referred to Iran as an Arab Country and they were corrected because Iran considers themselves Persian not Arab. Iran is helping one religious sect in Iraq fight another religious sect. A form of racism.

The countries you mentioned as being racist also have the most liberal immigration policies too. They are willing to take in people being persecuted in other countries and let them make a new life in their country. The problem often come when one group is trying to get a job and competing with another group for the same job. Look at the immigration policies of the countries you mentioned as being not racist and you will see why. They discourage people from moving to their country.

Even within a race there is racism. During the recent election for the US president some Black leaders criticized President Obama as not being Black enough for not having Slave Blood. He was also criticized because he came from more northern Africa.

It was once said that you measure the greatness of a country not by the people but by the people who want to get in. How many people want to get into your racist countries and how many want to move into you non racist countries?


myLot reputation of 71/100. patms1 (369)   ranked 613 out of 6,296 in politics  5 months ago

Thank you. I love it when people say things that need saying but in todays PC America some are afraid to. I agree with every thing you said but would have added one more. In Africa just being a different tribe gets you killed. Again, thank you.

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2. myLot reputation of 57/100. Latrivia (1494)   ranked 291 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

There is racism in many of the countries you listed. Just because they aren't taking it to the streets doesn't mean it isn't there. In addition, there's a lot of racism in South Africa, China, and other non-white countries. I know white people are supposed to be the bad guys, but that's simply not how the world works. Other races besides Caucasian are quite capable of racism.

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3. myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4569)   ranked 394 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

If you are White, try walking through most of the capitals of Africa right now. Try walking through the towns at the US/Mexico border at night.

Go through some parts of major US cities (that are far from White Majority)....

Racism and hate are (sadly) universal destroyers.

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4. myLot reputation of 49/100. Taskr36 (4488)   ranked 431 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

Good lord man. Do you realize exactly how ignorant you sound? Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Sudan are the most racist countries on the planet. Have you HEARD the things Ahmadinijead said about Jews? Have you heard of ethic cleansing?

What you've really done is contrast countries that acknowledge and work to prevent racism with countries where the government practices racism to the degree that they would commit or endorse genocide to remove the races that they dislike.

Have you wondered why the countries that you claim are being torn apart by racism are the wealthiest, safest, and most desirable to live in? Japan and South Korea are fine countries, but I can assure you, racism exists in both. I've had many friends who have lived in those countries. In any country with different races and cultures, racism exists.

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5. myLot reputation of 60/100. matersfish (749)   ranked 1,020 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

The United States of America is not being "torn apart by racism." Every single year we have fewer and fewer acts of violence carried out because of race. In fact, racism is dying off so brilliantly, it now has to be created by people looking for controversy.

Since no one has come out and damned Michael Jackson for being "black," celebrities like P Diddy and Alicia Keys say that the way the press is handling MJ, by talking about his life, is somehow RACIST.

People were hard-pressed to dig up footage of anyone in the mainstream disliking Obama because he's "black," so when the New York Post printed an innocent cartoon, Sharpton and friends woke up from their slumber and cried RACISM.

Anyone wanting to stop illegal immigration is called a racist. And while you might see this on the news, when you stop to actually ask for proof, NONE can be provided. People make up the racism claims in order to silence opposition.

The Tea Party protestors were called racists. Any proof? Any signs with "Obama is a N$*#ER" or a fake Obama doll with rope? Nope, none of that. Even still, they were called racist.

Racism is not even close to tearing America apart. However, there are a lot of people whose lives would be easier if that were truly the case.

Racism will die if people let it. At least in America, for a long, long time, racism was something perpetuated by government high-ranking officials. People eventually wised up. And like government does, they went on seeking new ways to get their party elected (the Democrats, in case you were wondering).

And to echo some comments I've read here: The worst racism is found in countries where one single race makes up the vast majority. Most countries are unapologetic about it to boot. Some Americans feel so guilty about their country's past that they live their entire lives apologizing to the descendants of those mistreated. How "torn apart" could we possibly be?


myLot reputation of 74/100. darkstormy1 (226)   ranked 1,129 out of 6,296 in politics  5 months ago

Ok while in some cases we have made advances in areas of race relations you seem to be clearly mistaken in your views and i am being very generous in my wording you know what incites racism is some of the comments you said above demeaning some of the treatment of races of people who choose to interact with everyone
Let me tell you it is still alive and well not only here but everywhere as long as we have people we will have some cocky arrogant person thinking they are better than the next who knows why but it is so so not sitting back and pretending it no longer exists will not make it go away
I am a white woman I have mixed kids and I see it on both sides all the time when people do not know they act one way it is understood or thought to be united there little jokes should be shared and show no shame in doing so but let someone of another race be there or should they know about my lifestyle I just love when they sit there and say no offense but they are not racist please denying it does not make it so
It infuriates me when people like this demean what some of us have to live through on sometimes a daily occurance all because of anothers ignorance it is ignorance one has to be nearly convicted of a good ole fashioned lynching as implied above or literally as long as they do not call someone the N word then they really are not racist interesting concept perhaps the ones protesting the truth so much have something to hide


myLot reputation of 73/100. bobmnu (2602)   ranked 188 out of 6,296 in politics  5 months ago

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myLot reputation of 60/100. matersfish (749)   ranked 1,020 out of 6,296 in politics  5 months ago

@ Darkstormy:

You really got worked up for no apparent reason. I won't apologize because you completely misread my statement.

I'm fully aware that racism does exist in America. I bet there is a lot of racial teasing going on. Just as there's a lot of teasing the "fat" kid, the kid with glasses, those with acne, those who go bald prematurely, those who are poor, etc. I never said that people couldn't and wouldn't be inherently cruel. There's also a lot of misunderstanding different "races," and different ways people act toward someone of another race out of fear and plain ignorance.

BUT, in the context of this discussion, incredibleDNA, a young adult from the Philippines, claimed that racism was tearing America apart. In order for someone from the Philippines to hold this view, it would have to come from what's shown on the news, i.e. the mainstream.

While incidents of racism do still occur in America, it's far, FAR from tearing our country apart. I am absolutely 100% correct about people misinterpreting and creating racism at times, and also that acts of racial violence have all but tapered off. (Again, in CONTEXT, widespread racial violence would be a symptom of a country being 'torn apart' by racism. The fact that we have very few EXTREMISTS gives me hope, even if you have none!)

My comment doesn't say that racism is dead; it illustrates that it's dying off. As a country--a whole; not simply where you live--racism has gone from violence to the teasing and misunderstanding, by and large. I wish it could be true everywhere, but it's not. However, to judge America, it has to be judged as a whole.

And if you hold the view that the protestors were racists (I can't really understand what you're saying since your comment is bereft of punctuation), you're speculating -- creating racism with no proof, just a "feeling."

I don't say that people have to drop the N-bomb to be racists. But it would certainly be a convincing piece of evidence to the Americans calling their fellow countrymen and women "racists." Racism is cruel and demeaning. Calling someone a racist without a shred of solid proof is also cruel and demeaning. It's a damning accusation.

@ Bobmnu:

I completely agree. That's what I was touching on in my comment. I'm glad you caught the context.:-)

The "mainstream" is often guilty of perpetuating racism to play into their hypocritical "shock-jock" system of news. Without this, you're right, even more racism would be allowed to die.

People in general are the only ones keeping it alive. That means the culture needs to change. And that goes for all people. Inaccurately reporting on racism and/or claiming someone to be a racist without any credible proof embitters people.

As far as those sporadic ignorant people in America who cling to their racism, the rest of us need to put the individuals in context. When you see a racist person, you're seeing just that: a person. That person should be held accountable for being a racist. Instead, it gives some a soapbox to stand on and claim that America is still racist. Again, this feeds into the creation of widespread racism from a single incident.

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To anyone thinking the news wouldn't do something like that, I suggest you watch it! lol ... Can anyone say "swine flu"? Or what about the widespread right-wing extremists when Tiller was murdered?

We live in a reactionary culture. One incident is used as PROOF of a widespread problem, when in actuality, it's anything but.


myLot reputation of 74/100. darkstormy1 (226)   ranked 1,129 out of 6,296 in politics  5 months ago

Whatever you want you delusions have them then. I though know what I have lived. I have had guns pulled on me by police for no other reason than having a black person in my car. I have had my rights violated so much I had to get a restraining order against the police all because they felt justified. Finally yes it does exist and perhaps my punctuation makes it clearer maybe that is imagined though also.........


myLot reputation of 60/100. matersfish (749)   ranked 1,020 out of 6,296 in politics  5 months ago

Delusions. LOL

Hey, if crooked police acting racist toward people you know means that America is being torn apart by racism, so be it. I must be foolish to stick up for my country and say that incidents like those are becoming fewer and fewer as time passes.

As I said, I have hope, even if you have none.

I don't mean to argue with you. No offense, but I'm not positive that you understand what I'm saying to begin with.

Happy myLotting!

:-)

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6. myLot reputation of 84/100. aslesh_t (345)   ranked 5,148 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

Atleast one of the countries that you mentioned in the non racist category has racism and I know it as one of my uncle lives in Saudi Arabia. The thing with racism is that it comes to light only when the media sheds light on it. It is unfair to say that countries in which whites are a majority are suffering from racism, because the place where I live, India, there are hardly any whites and you will find that racism is prevalent in some places even here. Infact it is almost everywhere and it is in the mind of the people not in the colour of their skin.
People who are educated and still behave as racists should be ashamed of themselves because it is understandable if an uneducated person does that, but even people with formal education behave like beasts and it is intolerable.

 
7. myLot reputation of 61/100. foursox212 (175)   ranked 169 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

It's everywhere, I think if the main stream media would stop grouping everybody for the sake of a story it might not be as bad but will always be there.

 
8. myLot reputation of 74/100. darkstormy1 (226)   ranked 1,129 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

Ignorance knows no boundaries no limits as long as it exists we will have some human trying to act superior to another whether for no other reason that race money religion or some other trumped up idea they can muster up to find themselves better we as societies everywhere we put people in groups instead of looking at the person we are all the same as we are all different None of us are superior and at the same token none of us are unferior

 
9. myLot reputation of 91/100. jellymonty (1365)   ranked 2,018 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

As a survivor of the apartheid era in South Africa I can honestly say that racism is world wide and is not limited to any country. In South Africa and Australia racism is rampant where as in England it's not as bad as lets say the Asian nations. Although fewer countries have less of it but I do not agree with you that only white countries have racism the most. If you follow the events in the middle east you will discover that there is massive racism there. It's a serious horrible problem but it is also a worldwide problem.

 
10. myLot reputation of 92/100. emmanola (210)   ranked 607 out of 6,296 in politics   5 months ago

I feel it's not exactly right to assume that racism is predominant in white-dominated countries. You mentioned Sudan as one country where there is no racism. Uhm, that's not true. What is part of the cause of the civil war in the country, the ethnic cleansing of citizens that are mainly black African descendants by the Arabs.

I'm from Nigeria but live and work in Ghana. A Ghanaian beauty queen who had to travel to Phillipines last year had to cut short her stay because she was racially dicriminated against. There are other examples where racism, in diverse guise, exist. What will we term the way the South Africans turned against other African aliens in their country just last year?

I have a couple of white friends who are never racists. There are many racists who are not white. What is bad is bad but we should try not to put everything in the same mould.

 
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