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myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting6 months ago

After my last discussion on my son wherein I have seriously taken up the suggestions of friends here to go slow on my anger, I am up against another wall. To repeat, my son will be 10 in two week’s time and though very nice and helpful most of the times, in some cases he’s just too obstinate for my liking. Well this has to do with TV time…he has 1 hr TV time in the afternoon and then in the evening when studies are over and while having dinner. Now, dinnertime is also the time when I have a little time of my own to watch the TV and chat with the family. BUT my son will just not switch over from his cartoons, neither will he allow us to talk as it distracts him. To cut it short….things have come to such a pass that today I told him (nicely, I’m controlling my anger) that he was being very selfish and well he looked at me a little hurt but shrugged his shoulders and said ‘OK… I’m selfish’ as if ‘so what!” and looked the other way.
Now what to do next? I can live without the idiot box but that’s not the point…I would like him to learn to give up a few likings for the greater family benefit and I would like him to understand what sharing with parents is.
Rebuking him or taking away his other likings or sending him to his room with dinner is not the solution…knowing my son, it will alienate him further but not make him see sense. He will continue shrugging and sulking but never admit that he is in the wrong. Also, giving in to him is not something I would like to do…I have thought of suggesting dividing the TV time but am not very comfortable with the solution. It seems more like bargaining for my own rights rather than a mother teaching her son some values! What do you guys think?

 
 
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11. myLot reputation of 99/100. nehaagra (494)   ranked 3,798 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

I too face almost similar problem with my 5 year old, whenever we switch on TV, he wants to watch cartoons. Though he's still small so its a bit manageble, but i know this will increas as he grows up. Slowly myself also is losing intresest in watching TV. Mostly what i do is to switch off tv while having food. This makes them finish their food faster too, and he can recite me all the whole day stories too, during that time, so its fun too for both of us..


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Hi Neha,
Yes, their addiction increases in direct proportion with their age and then as a mother, you tend to get frustrated repeating the same thing again and again…I mean how much more can we do really?!
But I think sticking on to NO TV during dinner would be the best solution here and I’ll seriously try it from tonight. Let me see how he takes it…actually more than the TV, its his obstinacy that I want to deal with.

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12. myLot reputation of 95/100. kalav56 (1936)   ranked 3,732 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

Can I amke a small suggestion/ Please finish your work and sit wth him while he watches his cartoons. Tell him beforehand that you would like to watch a bit of cartoons and ask him to guide you regarding the storyline etc..,Then slowly broach the topic to him that you would like to watch a bit of your t.v and you are asking him as a favour; if he does not want to grant you that then it is alright . But tell him how it is one of your favourite programs and how you would like sometime because you are very tired and need to sit and relax for a while.
Then you can ask him to tell you what his favourites are and those days you would allow him and wont even ask him for it.Child is more important than our own likes and so you may have to sacrifice that or compromise a bit.How long would he be watching cartoons? Adults can have our t.v . lifelong.
You cannot fight with a child on equal terms for your rights if you need the child to shower love and affection on you in your life.
He will automatically get the proper sense of values when you give in to him hundred percent and be firm where it really counts. Say, for eg he watches some film program then you can say a strong 'No'.
The choice and variety can only be cartoons, animal planet, Discovery etc..,let him watch all that and you will be proud of him later.


myLot reputation of 95/100. kalav56 (1936)   ranked 3,732 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Moreover, he is 10 years old and would shortly be entring the most difficult adoloscent period of his life.TRead carefully.


myLot reputation of 95/100. kalav56 (1936)   ranked 3,732 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

I went through other comments of yours only later and the time 11.30 is just too much for the child.That cannot eb allowed. You can even switch off the t.v and sacrifice watching it, if thta will make him go to bed early. After he falls asleep you can switch it on again.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

As I said, I can survive without the idiot box…I want to watch the news with him only to inculcate a habit of watching current affairs.
11:30 is the earliest we can retire…I am actually thinking of starting a discussion on how I spend my day and what better ways for time management can I do…I’ve seen people here are extraordinarily gifted when it comes to solutions and advises. I know something has to be done…just don’t know what!

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13. myLot reputation of 95/100. sid556 (10832)   ranked 625 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

You said some really key words here,"my son will not allow us". You are the parents and therefore your son should not be setting any rules....YOU set the rules and YOU enforce the rules. You have to be firm and clear on this and his boundaries. If he doesn't like it....oh well. He is 10. If your son does not switch over from the cartoons, get up and shut the tv off and keep it off through out the meal. If he throws a fit...don't allow it to be turned on again that night and possibly part of the following day. You have to set clear rules and consequences for breaking them and let him know ahead what they will be. Then the hardest part...follow thru each and every time. As for not allowing you to talk...that'd be the day that in my house one of my kids stopped me from talking. It's ok if he won't admit he's wrong and it's ok if he sulks....let him just as long as he minds you.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

I am actually scared of letting him sulk…I have not given in to him on many previous occasions and after things have settled down and on some other occasion, he would bring up that incident of how I did not care for his thoughts…and now that he is entering adolescence, I feel talking would be the best way instead of imposing myself. However, he seems to take talking as a sign of weakness…I am really so confused as you can make out…just the other day I asked help from you all regarding my anger and am following all the suggestions (with good results till now)…I am again hoping to form a consensus out of this mess with help from you all.

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14. OfficialMobster (43)   6 months ago

Hmm.. Well I have a younger brother who is 9 years old at the moment turning 10 in July. He too throws a tantrum when he is asked to switch television channels. I would advise you to not eat in the same room as a televisiion. You may have to write up a timetable, asking him which programmes he likes the most. You may also need to proove to him that there is mroe to life than television. Take him to parks, make him read books etc. I hope this helps you.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Well this is more to do with his obstinate behaviour than with his TV watching…he has a schedule for that and also goes out to play in the afternoon. Its when he refuses to change channels or lower the volume, that gets on my nerves. Is your brother like that? Is he glued to the TV when he is watching it?

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15. myLot reputation of 89/100. candy2306 (462)   6 months ago

Hi Sudipta, I'd like to go with Cyn's suggestion. Dinner time is to have nice time together with family. Catching up with few nice chats whats happen during the day and all. You both should sit and share some quality times and then take turn to watch TV.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Yes, I feel Cyn's got the thing right here...though I must say it would be a Herculean task for me to wean him off TV.

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16. myLot reputation of 91/100. meandmy3 (1328)   ranked 214 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

Okay first you are the parent here and not him, if you want the television off you turn it off, if you want a different channel on you put it on a different channel.

Second I would not tell my child he was being selfish, just that their behavior is not acceptable and that if he can not behave in a way that is positive to their family that he will need to go to his room till he can. Plain and simple. He acts and behaves in a manner that is acceptable or he is not allowed to be around the rest of the family till he does.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

OK I have heard this before but I really really want to know one thing here…he is going to enter adolescent very soon. everywhere I hear and read it’s the same about how difficult it is to keep the communication door open with children of this age (I know it, I remember my own days) and once that door is closed, its closed for a very vital part of the child’s life…at the end of it, its make or break as far as the future of the child is concerned. To keep this door open, its advised everywhere to go gentle, to talk more, to ‘understand’ and make them ‘understand’…this is what confuses me most. Talking to him makes him think I’m soft as a parent yet I am not too sure about reaching a point of no return…like banishing him to his own room and so on. He has already started shrugging his shoulders, next he will not be bothered about confinement and then what?


myLot reputation of 91/100. meandmy3 (1328)   ranked 214 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Yes he may act as if having to go to his room is no big deal but yes it will be and it will get the point across, if by chance that does not work then he looses a privilege, if his thing is watching television then he can not watch his shows for a certain period of time, if it is video games take the controllers away for several days. You are not here to be his friend, you are his parent and yes he will get angry and he is likely to say things that may hurt your feelings, when he does the punishment will last for longer. Demand respect form your children at all times. this way they will respect other adults. If he shurggs his shoulders then add a day to the lose of television. I am sure you get the gest of this.

I know that it is important that you respect your child's feelings as well, and that you show him that you care about how he feels but in doing so it is important that you establish that you are the parent and that while you will listen to him and care about his feelings you are the one that determines what the rules are and you expect him to respect you and follow your rules.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Ok…I hope I am not being a bore here but what about the fears I have of losing contact with him if I come across as to strict? I mean what if instead of coming around and respecting me, he starts to avoid me or gradually builds a grudge against me? kids are not supposed to ever ‘understand’ why they are being punished or deprived, so how do I bridge that gap?


myLot reputation of 91/100. meandmy3 (1328)   ranked 214 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

You are not being a bore, this is a very interesting conversation and one that can help many. Sit him down and have a long heart to heart with your son, he is at a crucial age, one that as you have pointed out can result in him pulling away from you. Let him know that while he may not always agree with you that you are the parent and that he has to follow your rules, that the two of you have a long time to live under the same roof and he has a choice to either make that time pleasant for the both of you or miserable for the both of you. That as he gets older he will gain more responsibility and the ability to hang out with friends more but that his behavior will dictate weather or not he will see those benefits of good behavior come to place. He is in control of his future and future rights to go to a baseball game watch television and that if he looses a privilage it is no ones fault but his own. Lay down the guidelines, let him know what the rules are, even consider signing a rules contract, put it in witting what you expect of him and what he can expect of you. Both good and bad. I know he is only 10, but he will like that you are communicating with him and allowing him to have some say so (or at least the appearance of) in what the rules are, talk about them, talk about why they are important and why they are there.

Good Luck..

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17. myLot reputation of 36/100. Caylaxx (102)   ranked 13,432 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

From my experience lol, children think they are always right so it's really hard to get through to them, especially at the age of ten. Maybe suggest doing something else at dinner time such as everyone at the tabel tells each other about their day or something like that, something that doesn't involve the TV. Hopefully that will help


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Yes, I am seriously thinking of banishing TV time and talking about each of our days …maybe this will help. In any case it will at least bring the family closer!

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18. myLot reputation of 78/100. tskmjk55 (455)   ranked 10,958 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

This happens to some families where kids are giving undue attention and pampered to a point that they tend to be selfish. In this case, if they are too stubborn, you need to be harsh and give them proper treatment which should be balanced so as to not to hurt their feelings. Take the case of mine, for example, I am the eldest son and I used to demand more things from parents. When they refuse to budge, I used to whine and make hullaboo. Of course, my mother used to cane me in this case and I would be in control.

In your case, you need to reprimand your son. If you keep quiet, then things will go really out of control. If you dont want to scold your son, then cajole him in a friendly manner and gain his confidence so that he will listen to your dictat.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

I have tried the cane way and it was not conducive…he started becoming too violent and was almost hitting back! So caning is out of way…now the cajoling part is something I have been doing for quite sometime. Its working most of the time but then sometimes (just as with the TV) he is too stubborn to see any reason or care for anybody else. This is something I now want to get across to him…sharing and caring for family members and giving up his own likings for us.

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19. myLot reputation of 90/100. mrakobesie (754)   ranked 9,835 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

It seems to me like you need a family time. I'd like to say that best time would be at diner, so turn the TV off, but if it's impossible at the time, try to have family activities. When i was little my mother and my brother would sit together every now and then and cook. there were a few dishes that would take forever to cook, so we would do it together to speed up the process. It was fun and working together on something really unites people. If TV is not working during that time it will be perfect for the whole family to talk about anything, as long as it's not telling your son how he should act that is. don't use family time for scolding, he should enjoy spending tie with the family, not fear it. I recall my pediatrics professor telling me that she used to have family cooking time every weak, he kids grew up now, but they told her that they missed cooking together and that they should do it again.


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

thnx for the suggestion. Both my son and me love food so I think it would be fun trying out simple dishes together.

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20. myLot reputation of 84/100. tonniek02 (229)   ranked 1,205 out of 14,943 in parenting   6 months ago

The biggest problem with children these days. Is that the parents are letting them have control. Remember who gave birth to them.. You are the one in control, take it and use it. Some time you have to be crul to be kind. Let them through ther fits. A glass of water in the face will stop that too. You are loosing respect and you need to put your foot down before he gets much older. Or you will find more problems then you ever dreamed of. Kids aren't stupid they will get away with what ever they think they can. Respect is not given. You have to earn it. And being the parent and showing your athoraty will help you earn that...If he say so....Show him so....And you can do this without getting yourself upset or angree..


myLot reputation of 82/100. hornswaggled (1968)   ranked 103 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Thank you for saying what I've been thinking....and saying here....this whole "my poor baby" crap is annoying!
When did we as parents lose control? I would really like the answer to that one wouldn't you?


myLot reputation of 84/100. tonniek02 (229)   ranked 1,205 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Parents started looking control when they let there fear of government step in. And the kid were adviced by others, if you want to do what you want just tell social services. And the young parents of today, are so wrapped up into things they want, they don't care what there kids are doing and who there around. I have seen it with many young couples out there. That there social life is more important then who is with there kid. And Kid can feel that. And some feel it easyer to give them there way then to correct them and hear there cry. We've just developed a Lazy gerneration of whats in it for me....Mothers don't want to get up with the baby, fathers don't want to support the babys. So when you have a child that does not mind then maybe you need to reavaluate the way your rasing them. That is the one thing the alway bugged me... is to see a parent rewarding a child for bad behaivor. Kids today are tought the more you act up, the more you get.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hornswaggled (1968)   ranked 103 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

Isn't that the truth?!
I remember a story about a kid I knew who got into trouble with underage drinking. So the cops hauled him to the cop shop and called the parents. His dad showed up and asked his son what happened...the son ignored him....his dad asked again. Again his idiot son ignored him. So his dad popped him up side the head. The sheriff in our little one horse town looked at the dad and told him if he did that again they would arrest him for child abuse. The dad said fine...whatever...and then he said..."If I don't do something to let him know I deserve respect and I don't make him behave you'll be seeing a lot more of him from now on!"....the sheriff shut up and no more was said or done......the kid is now a responsible grownup and a great member of the community!


myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7241)   ranked 97 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

One stupid sheriff, if I may say so!
However, here in India we don’t have govt control like that…however, what is spoiling us parents is really the child psychologists and sociologists. Every singe morning I open the newspaper I see reports of teenage boys and girls either committing suicide, or robbing money or going wild, or leaving home and such…invariably followed by ‘expert opinion’ for some leading child psychologist or sociologist on how we should become more ‘friends’ that parents, how strict control might actually harm the child, how we should be lenient and open so that they are free with us on anything and everything! Just this morning I read about some girl eloping with a ‘virtual’ guy she met on some chat site…as usual, the advise was for parents to themselves become members of facebook myspace, orkut etc and not ban these sites. Now the thing is, if indeed I do become a member and my son knows that too and we are having good time…I come up with him doing something bad and tell him to stop it…is he going to listen? Or would he rather expect me to endorse it? even if he does stop…what’s stopping him to go to another site? I am so confused and worried sick!
I do hope that by now you understand that watching or not watching TV is not the real problem here…problem is making him understand the difference between enforcement and respect.


myLot reputation of 84/100. tonniek02 (229)   ranked 1,205 out of 14,943 in parenting  6 months ago

From what I have read, you have lost control. You need to get that back. And that may be hard. A parents job is to teach there children to be responsable adults. and when you get them so much freedom, the only thing your teaching them is they can do what ever they want and it's ok. Well, It's NOT ok. It's little things, like getting there way over the TV or Games or even over what you fix for dinner, that leads to the Bigger things such as vilance, cheating, and stilling.
I have a friend, that works for a jail. and her kids walk all over her. Her daughter go her license to drive and told her mom she was not getting a job, it was her mom's responcablity to supply her with a car to drive, insurace and money to spend. And her mom does it. There is No respect there. And a child that is out of control in imposable to handle. And this is because she has tryed what you are doing. Now she has a kid the tells her what to do and not. Is that the life you want. I have never even heard her kid say I love you mom.
When my kids became old enough to drive, I did get them a car. But it was a used car, NO NEW. But they had to pay there own insuracance and gas and upkeep, And if they wanted all those instyle clothes they had to pay for them.. I would not pay those high price for clothing. I didn't ware $80 dollar jeans and I was not about to pay that for them to ware. They both got part time jobs and when they wanted something more them I was willing to do, then they got it themselves. I always would remind my kid. How would you like it if someone treated you badly. Think about what you do and say befor you do it. Cause it cant be takin back.
Now, I have one that Joined the Air Force and now works for a college while she continues here education. And the other went to a broadcast school to get into Radio/TV Broadcast. They both are very responsable and respect. And I hear from them daily and they always tell me before the hang up, I love you mom.
You can be a friend, But you have to be a Parent FRIST. Gide them and teach them right from wrong. And don't let them have the control. There is a time to let them make dessions. But 10 years old is not the time....

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