News sites swap Obama's birthplace like magic
@whiteheather39 (24403)
United States
July 10, 2009 9:16am CST
When are American people going to realize that Obama cannot prove he is an American BORN citizen. It is ridiculous that even accredited news sites are changing their minds as to where he was born. It seems that Obama's spending of millions of dollars to veil his background it working. It is so sad that money talks even to cover up the legitimacy of our president birth! Any comments?
BORN IN THE USA?
UPI, Snopes change location within hours of WND report
If you happened to read online news sites such as United Press International or the popular hoax-busting Snopes.com anytime up until Tuesday night, you would have seen definitive statements that President Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii.
But checking back now, both sites are suddenly providing an entirely different location, the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children, also in the capital of the Aloha State.
Within hours of a WND report revealing Obama's birth being reported at two different Hawaiian hospitals, both sites changed their information to suddenly fall in line with the president's claim that he was born at Kapi'olani.
Here is the screen shot from Snopes on July 7, before WND's report was posted:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103465
In this July 7, 2009, screenshot of Snopes.com highlighted by WND, the myth-busting website asserts President Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, not the Kapi'olani Medical Center in which Obama claims to have been born.
Within just 90 minutes of the WND report, Snopes swapped the location of the president's birth from Queen's to Kapi'olani, as evinced by this screen shot from the exact same Web address:
Screenshot of same Snopes.com address on July 8. 2009, reveals Snopes swapped the location of President Obama's birth from Queen's Medical Center
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103465
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Personally I have not tasted any koolaid since grade school. I think I actually grew up and realized it was not a healthy beverage. Just as I think "O" is not healthy for the USA.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jul 09
You are correct. His grandma has always maintained he was born in Kenya.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
10 Jul 09
Any critical thinker knows, when facts contradict each other, keep looking for the truth. Anyone with a brain knows, when someone is spending vast amounts of time, energy and money trying to keep something from the public... there is a reason.
I had to show my long form birth certificate to join the Army. McCain had to "prove" his eligibility to Congress. What is it about Obama's meglomania that he thinks he is above such things.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
10 Jul 09
That's because you're not above it us great unwashed like the false god of Democrats, Obama.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jul 09
I must be plain dumb because I thought this very important issue would have been proven within the first month of the inauguration that he is or is not eligible to be president. Since coming to the States 32 years ago I cannot count the number of time I have had to show my birth certificate especially when it came to my naturalized citizenship.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jul 09
What is disturbing to me is that the courts are backing him...they keep dismissing the suits demanding he show his long form birth certificate. The checks and balances of our Constitutional government are no more!
As for him producing within a month of his inauguration, I say all candidates for any office should show it before being allowed to even run for office, or at least if they win their party's primary.
We have to show the darn things to get a driver's license or passport. Why not those who propose to LEAD us?
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
10 Jul 09
Don't you realize it that this is racism in all its ugly forms - not beating up people physically, but glorifying and saying that someone is always right, and always tell the truth because he is black and especially because he is to the far left politically speaking.
So Obama is always right. Obama will say he was born an American citizen even if he was really born in Kenya and his sweet old grandmother witnessed the birth and there were cameras and videos at the actual event.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
11 Jul 09
I am white. I have white skin. Therefore I am a racist. I am a bigot. Now that is really tolerant and accepting of people to say, isn't it?
No one considers the fact that MY ancestors were killed for the color of their skin and for being 'savages and heathens'. I also have ancestors that were enslaved by a conquering empire when the Romans moved into Ireland. In fact, my Sicilian and German ancestors were probably part of that conquering empire.
Slavery in America was terrible. But it is in the PAST! People would call me stupid if I went around demanding special privileges and considerations because long ago my Irish ancestors were enslaved by the Romans...or because when they came to America they were denied jobs and housing just because of their religion.
I have heard it said that blacks CANNOT be racist. Yet when I lived in Gary, IN...I experienced racism against ME and MY kids. I was told by one employer...'you will be the only white employee here...are you ready for that?' And when I put my kids in the high school..the black principal told me they would most definately be made to feel unwelcome and there was nothing he could do about it. He was being realistic.
To me, that is racism.
There is not a race or a culture that is NOT guilty of some awful things....so we ALL stand guilty and we all can be called victims. It is part of being a member of the human race...not the black or white race.
@AmbiePam (120738)
• United States
10 Jul 09
You know, I heard on television that the four countries whose government controls the media the most, are China, Cuba, North Korea, and Iran. I am not saying we will ever get that bad, no way. But the media, which is mostly liberal, is so happy to do whatever they think is best for Obama's administration. I've never seen such a large number of corporations and people kiss one person's behind like this.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Neither have I! I am constantly amazed. I do not know if they do it out of admiration or fear of the repercussions if they actually face up to exposing him.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
12 Jul 09
To this, I have to defer to Bernie Goldberg and his fabulous book, A Slobbering Love Affair.
I don't think the press does this on purpose, per se. They're far-left liberals (the vast majority). They've always been so. Most in the press, in general, are white folks from well-to-do families that went to fancy, expensive schools. They came up through the Kennedy era that saw Democrats switch from a one-race oppressor to the embracers of all God's little children -- before they removed "God" from the equation.
Progressive liberalism is something so ingrained in their brains that they don't even realize they're acting against their profession's and country's best interest. It's how they see the world; it's their respective truth.
The reason they're so willing to sacrifice credibility is because they don't see it as sacrificing credibility. They feel as if they're on the doorstep of the movement that America needs to make. As such, these primarily white, condescending, liberal elitists that make up most of the press will do whatever they can to promote Obama's agenda for two reasons:
1) They think he's right. This, as mentioned, is how they view the world.
2_) They think America owes it to a person that isn't white to give in and "try" it another way. It's white liberal guilt. Most in the press literally act surprised that Obama can speak. They get "thrills" up their leg, have flashbacks of great civil rights leaders, etc.
They patronize a mixed race man to the point of embarrassment without ever realizing they're doing it. Then when someone disagrees with any of his actions, they're branded racists. Because, if naysayers weren't actually racists, they would be rooting for the man regardless of what he was trying to do.
The press delivers so much irony and hypocrisy on a daily basis that you wouldn't even know Barack Obama was elected as America's President unless you read the words on his podium. The press is still campaigning for the man as he constantly campaigns for himself. They're one in the same.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
10 Jul 09
There are several disturbing aspects to this. Not only the questions surrounding Obama's birth, but the implications for the utter manipulation of the news, history and fact by established, traditional news sources.
A newspaper, once printed, cannot be altered. But web pages can be edited, updated, altered or obliterated. That UPI would change a story printed a year ago - actually go back and edit the news retroactively - is worrisome. I know myself that I have read something on the net, only to later find it has disappeared. But the disappearance of a website is not nearly as dangerous as a manipulation of news, which when done to past news stories, is actually changing history.
We often hear that we shouldn't trust Wikipedia, because it is user-content and can be edited and updated by anyone. But there are millions of eyes watching the pages at Wikipedia. Attempts to edit or insert slanted information is reported and deleted or at least marked as being without citation. The Church of Scientology has been banned from Wikipedia because members were editing pages they felt put their organization in a bad light. There are safeguards in the form of millions of users who watch to see what information is included or omitted.
But what of the traditional news and information sources? Only that organization itself can update or edit content. How do you know that what you read today is what was originally reported? How can you know they have not edited it to put forth a slanted view or even radically changed the reported facts?
What this means is that we cannot trust these sources, if there is no disclosure that pieces have been edited or updated. I saw no indication that UPI attempted to disclose the change in this story on Obama, although Snopes included the info that other news accounts have a different hospital named.
As to the birth certificate itself, if Obama wanted to settle any doubt that he was born where he said he was, he would simply authorize the hospital to release those records. That he has not, in light of the numerous law suits and serious questions, makes us think that the document that would allay our fears and put suspicions to bed does not exist.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Excellent response it cetainly makes one wonder. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "that the document that would allay our fears and put suspicions to bed does not exist. "
@mehale (2200)
• United States
15 Jul 09
I would say that this is serious reason for concern. You know that old saying about protesting too much.... If there was not something to hide, then why all the difficulties about providing an actual birth certificate in the first place? It really does make me wonder and I truly believe that it should be investigated to the fullest.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Jul 09
I agree! Especially when the outcome could prove Obama is not eligible to be president of the USA.
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
15 Jul 09
It doesn't really matter were he was born. His mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth therefore he is. Being born in Hawaii makes him an American also. Which hospital is irrelevant.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Jul 09
The problem is that Obama's grandmother says he was born in Kenya. THAT is the whole point of the controversy which will never be put to rest until Obama shows a legitimate birth certificate which he refuses to do. So IMO when he spends millions of dollars on lawyer to hide the truth then VERY OBVIOUSLY he is hiding something!! Now he does not seem to be able keep the names of the so called place of birth (hospital) straight.
@Shellyann36 (11383)
• United States
11 Jul 09
I have this feeling that this is just a fraction of what is yet to come. However, I must say what goes around comes back around. Just like the Watergate scandal, someone, somewhere in the political realm will get tired of all of the tom foolery and he will get busted for all of his wrong doings. Or AT LEAST that is what I am PRAYING for! After that happens it is up to us as the Voting Public to assure that it does not happen again.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
11 Jul 09
I am also inclined to think there will be more to come and it can not come soon enough for me.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Maybe we entered another dimension where he was born at the one he sent the letter to. Next stop, Kenya?
What I can't understand is why, snopes was made the last word anyway...it's run by a husband and wife team and merely copies from other sites what THEY put out as true. Snopes just lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned. They caved in to someone's pressure. Did you know the STOP THE SMEARS site is gone, no archives, nothing! hhhhhmmmmm????
What people need to do is look at ALL the information out there and weigh it for themselves...for instance: listen to or read all of Obama's speeches from when he entered public service til now and find all the lies he's told - when he messes up and forgets what he said before. OH! That would make a great video game, see how many you could spot as you weave your way from Illinois to D.C....Liar, liar..pants on fire!
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jul 09
According to the link it is not just Snopes but also the UPI and that really is a very well respected news organization.











