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I've gotten a little sick of the FOX News is the best and Liberals that refuse to watch it are being left uninformed. Which I think it utter bullshyt but, whatever. So tonight as I'm checking email there's a story about President Bush and I thought it was funny so I went to FOX and couldn't find it anywhere on their site. I then went to CNN and they were covering the story. So, two news agencies covering a story without FOX covering the story I thought that was very interesting because if I were relying solely on FOX I would have been uninformed. So what are your thoughts on relying on just onenews source? To me it seems a bit foolish.
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| 1. addicted2cola (79) | 3 months ago | Now, I can't speak directly about Fox as I don't watch it, but I find all news stations to be at least a little biased in one way or another. A lot of people say that CBC in Canada has Liberal tendencies/bias (which is probably true), and I find that NTV (a local Newfoundland station) has conservative tendencies/bias. I watch both (I prefer CBC, though) as well as CTV, and I also read the news online from other sources. I don't think it's a good idea to get your news from just one source because you're really only getting one side of the news. I'd rather be fully educated on the issues!
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | I agree. But, over the past few weeks I have been told over and over how uniformed I am since I don't get my news just from FOX. I do honestly believe that a news media does lean one way or another and that's just a part of life and capitalism.
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2. missybal (3716) | 3 months ago | What story on Bush is that?
I don't believe you should rely solely on any news station. On fox news it depends on what show and who you watch on what point of view you get and they don't hide the programs that are opinion based. I haven't watched anything lately except news clips on youtube and the websites lately since I got rid of my dish. However I did have a conversation with a couple I know who watch only NBC and they said that they had no idea about whats been going on with Accorn and had not even heard about the tea party protests and I found this very interesting.
Anyways Fox News does have all the ratings so whatever your opinion may be on them, they are doing what gets them the viewers. Far more viewers that is then the other news stations.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | It was just a little story about one of Bush's speechwriters saying that Bush made jokes about Palin. And, no I'm not bashing Palin, you asked and I didn't want this discussion to be about Palin that's why I didn't go into details about the story.
I have never relied on one news source, it makes one a fool to do so. I can understand if one likes a certain morning news program and a certain evening news program. Has this couple been living under a rock or something? I can flip through my television and hear about tea parties and acorn without being on FOX.
I prefer to read my news so I don't watch much either.
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missybal (3716) | 3 months ago | Not about to jump on ya... just wondering what it was that you were referring too... by what you say you make it sound it's some story on a she said that he said thing that I wouldn't expect a news network to go out and say anything about it... but then I'm going to have to find something on it to be able to say whether that is the case. Like if someone says that they overheard Obama call Kenya a you know what and there was no tape or proof is it really news worthy if you don't know for sure?
But anyways as for that couple I don't know maybe they just didn't hit the news at the right time... but I found it interesting that they say they watch the news pretty regular and they didn't know about those two things. Again I got rid of my dish so I'm sticking to reading a lot and it gave me the time to read these bills and statistics and research so it's been better I think getting away from it all.
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anniepa (9208) | 3 months ago | I have to say if Fox were the only network covering the tea parties or the ACORN scandal I'd have never heard about them at all! I'm quite aware of what's going on there so apparently someone else is reporting it.
Annie
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missybal (3716) | 3 months ago | Annie... who said that the others weren't? only one I was talking about was a couple who only watch NBC... Like I said no one should ever rely on only one news network.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | Here missy, you can read for yourself. And, as for your comment about Obama calling that guy an ahole (I hope that's what you're talking about) I did see on FOX or maybe it was wnd.com they claim to have the sound bit of it. I didn't listen because I was looking for the Bush story and I haven't gotten back to it since it wasn't really that important to me LOL
http://news.aol.com/article/george-bush-called-sarah-palin-not/671236
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missybal (3716) | 3 months ago | Yeah it's what I thought a he said she said thing. Not news, another person wanting to make a buck off a former president.
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coolcoder (1482) | 3 months ago | In your own words, Zephyr, you don't watch TV all that much. Then how in the world can you say that Fox doesn't give fair and balanced news? Do you hear other people making that assertion and just go along with it without finding out for yourself? In that sense, you are uninformed because you don't take the time to watch and get both sides of the story.
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anniepa (9208) | 3 months ago | I'm sorry, missy. No, YOU didn't say nobody else was reporting it but there have been various posts here implying that many media outlets had failed to report it. I just wanted to point out that I'd seen it reported and I don't watch Fox. As for the broadcast networks - ABC, CBS, NBC - I rarely watch any news on any of them other than flipping through the Sunday morning talks shows now and then so it could well be none of them mentioned it.
Annie
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missybal (3716) | 3 months ago | Looking at the clips of the Tea Party there certainly is a difference in the way the different networks reported it,
Fox News was much more kind and didn't go looking for the couple of loons in the crowd... funny the loons seemed to have the professionally made signs and not the obviously handmade ones. Look at this CNN clip... the protesters who had the professional printed signs were not the tea party people I know to be the majority. And the pro healthcare ones were all professionally printed ones too. But the way this CNN clip shows the Tea Party demonstrators is enough to make anyone think they were all a bunch of loons.
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/09/cnn-tea-party-express-stop-very-angry-signsantiobamaantidemocratic-administration-type-rallyall-code.html
Please excuse the language on this site... I was just surfing for clips and this is the first I on the list in my search.
Strange also how the white house claimed it and Obama were not aware of the upcoming tea party... if we are to believe that then maybe it is possible that
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missybal (3716) | 3 months ago | Here's the link without the swear words...
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/09/12/velshi.tea.party.and.wilson.cnn?iref=videosearch
I think you have to copy and paste from now on here...
It's just shocking... I wonder where did they get the printed signs? CNN was not reporting on the majority of the tea party people...
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3. spalladino (8993) | 3 months ago | No, you can't rely on only one news source anymore...and that's really sad. As a wide eyed innocent teenager I wanted to be a reporter. I thought it was a noble profession, especially in light of the Watergate investigation, but the industry has become too corrupt. Most news agencies are soundboards for whatever political party/special interest/personal benefit the owner chooses.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | I think the only sad part is that people actually do rely on one news source because they have a fear of any other "news". I wish every realized that all news agencies are exactly what you said, "soundboards".
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4. murderistic (1039) | 3 months ago | What cracks me up is the Fox Radio Channel saying that they are fair and balanced. FOX news is one thing, but the radio station is just absolutely ridiculous liberal bashing all day long! How in the world is that fair and balanced? Did I miss something???
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murderistic (1039) | 3 months ago | As for relying on one news source, it honestly depends. I definitly don't rely on one news source. Honestly I like to read/hear international perspectives on the US and global news. My main news source is BBC, I also like Al Jazeera and Haaretz. I watched CNN during the election but after Obama got elected, CNN really went downhill in my opinion.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | My husband listens to the FOX radio channel on Sirius, he likes to listen to the crazy talk, I personally can't stand it. I don't think that bashing is really fair and if they aren't bashing conservatives then it isn't balanced either.
I do agree that the international news really puts a different outlook and sometimes they have stories that the American news agencies aren't running at all and yes that includes FOX LOL
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5. jb78000 (1707) | 3 months ago | even the best sources have a bit of spin in them. best to use at least two, preferably from different erm sides. and to ignore the tabloids completely or at most use their stories as a starting point and check them before taking what they say as gospel.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | I remember when I was a lot younger the tabloids were running stories about strange things "bat boy" and "2 headed baby" but, now, as we seen from the last election they sometimes do carry stories that are actually true and they are the first to break it.
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jb78000 (1707) | 3 months ago | there's fairly strict rules about just making random things up here but the tabloids frequently find ways round it - choosing only to report certain bits of a story and missing out anything that doesn't quite fit with their aim, sticking a ridiculous amount of spin on something (see the daily mail for this one) and of course opinion columns and the use of the word 'alledgedly'. they also do make things up occasionally, risking fines in the hope of extra sales i imagine. as a said, starting point only.
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6. xfahctor (5233) | 3 months ago | um, it could be perhaps because it's a silly insignifigant story.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | umm during the Bush Administration FOX News took the perspective that Bush was God and all the liberals that spoke out against the administration were Unamerican. Silly as it maybe their God spoke and Fox didn't run it because it was against their new Goddess.
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xfahctor (5233) | 3 months ago | if Bush were still president, and Palin were still governor, or even still running for office, it would be a signifigant story. Neither is the case now so it's a silly insignifigant story.....even for fox's "god" and "goddess".
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Taskr36 (4578) | 3 months ago | I liked James Carville's take on it best. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/16/carville-takes-aim-at-latest-tell-all-on-bush/
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xfahctor (5233) | 3 months ago | ROFL! I don't really care for Carville, but he nailed this one!
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anniepa (9208) | 3 months ago | Taskr, if YOU agree with Carville you MUST tell me what he said since I can't find a transcript! Annie
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Taskr36 (4578) | 3 months ago | My baby is sleeping right now so I can't listen to it and give it to you word for word, but basically, he said the guy is a dweeb, and called him a few other names. He said it doesn't sound like Bush, but regardless of whether he did or didn't say it, the guy is a dweeb and a punk and as a former aide shouldn't be blabbing about private conversations that occurred between him and a former president. You really need to listen to it though because it's funny to hear.
By the way, does anyone else think Carville looks like Mr. Bigglesworth from Austin Powers? That's how my wife always refers to him.
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Taskr36 (4578) | 3 months ago | Ok the baby's awake. His EXACT words were "this little dweeb needs to be glove-slapped".
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anniepa (9208) | 3 months ago | Thanks, Taskr, even though I haven't yet actually heard it I can almost hear it in my head...lol! I have to admit I don't think much of anyone who repeats things that were said in confidence or in a private setting. I said the same thing about Levi Johnston's "revelations". However, the guy DID write the book so I suppose it's news. I'd say, IF there's any truth to it he said far worse things about Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden than about Sarah Palin!
Annie
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7. Taskr36 (4578) | 3 months ago | Well let's see Zephyr, the story JUST came out on CNN. Aren't you going to give Fox News a couple hours to verify the story? Most people gave CNN and MSNBC a week or more before complaining about their lack of coverage on ACORNS latest series of scandals.
Either way the claim has been disputed by a former Bush and Palin aide. It sounds like this Matt Latimer guy is just trying to sell a book and he knew a claim like this would get him free publicity.
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ZephyrSun (3492) | 3 months ago | LOL A week? Are you kidding me? I just responding to a discussion the other day and the conservative was complaining about liberals not being informed because they use cnn and msnbc and they weren't covering the acorn story but, they were they just didn't have every freakin story line revolving around acorn. 8 minutes after the discussion was posted I happen to look at msnbc and guess what, the story had been on their website for over an hour.
Oh, so now we are just going to say well an aide said that was incorrect and leave a story at that? Well hell no one on the right believed Obama when he said there wasn't death panels in the health care reform. Great Taskr I won't have to believe anything anymore as long as an aide said it wasn't true or didn't happen.
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Taskr36 (4578) | 3 months ago | The info on the "Death panels" as they've been called was part of the bill. Reading the bill would show that regardless of what anyone claimed. Here we just have a guy making ridiculous claims trying to sell a book. I don't see Fox News giving coverage to claims made in anti-Obama books so I'd say their coverage has been consistent on this issue.
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anniepa (9208) | 3 months ago | "The info on the "Death panels" as they've been called was part of the bill. Reading the bill would show that regardless of what anyone claimed." Reading the bill would show there were no such thing as "death panels", that was a word Sarah Palin or someone else made up because it sounded very frightening. It ws about health care professionals being paid to counsel patients and their families on their options which could include being kept alive for as long as possible no matter what it took! It could also include not wishing to be kept alive by artificial means.
"Here we just have a guy making ridiculous claims trying to sell a book. I don't see Fox News giving coverage to claims made in anti-Obama books so I'd say their coverage has been consistent on this issue." I don't have a link to give you so you can correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sean Hannity spend a fair amount of time discussing Jerome Corsi's anti-Obama book? Hasn't he had entire "series within in his series" against the Clinton's and Obama in recent years?
Annie
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Taskr36 (4578) | 3 months ago | Well I can't say what Hannity may have done. As you know I never really watch his show. It was tolerable when Colmes was on, but now there's really nobody to balance his ridiculous claims. Zephyr was talking about what she found on the websites and I've never seen them address anti-Obama books on Fox's website.
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8. hotsummer (2694) | 3 months ago | i do watch it. but i am not able to feel if they are leaning toward one party. as i am not really familiar with the political parties of the US as i am not from US. but i do watch often before. i don't know which news station is covering the news honestly.
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9. millertime (192) | 3 months ago | I don't think there's any question that Fox News is the only major news network that covers the conservative point of view. ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN are all biased toward the Obama administration and the liberal point of view not only in their commentary, but their news coverage as well. The only way to get the whole story is to get your news from several different sources including the internet, not just TV news. I do think that overall, FOX News is the least biased in their coverage of the news, you just have to remember to separate the actual news coverage from commentary.
Their commentary is heavily biased toward conservatism, not necessarily Republican, but definitely conservative. This is ok because the rest of the networks are heavily liberal and favor the Democrats in their commentary. The problem with the rest of the networks is they let their bias control their news coverage which is supposed to be politically neutral. In this respect, FOX has the most fair and balanced NEWS and the ratings are showing more and more people are starting to realize that.
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| 10. weebler76 (29) | 3 months ago | It is dumb to rely on one newsource. I really only use the major networks to get the gist of whats going on. If it's something that interests me then I do the research and look for actual facts. Is Fox fair and balanced? They obviously tend to have a conservative feel, but I think they are more fair and balance than the others. OBC (Obama Broadcating Company, formerly ABC) has a bias that cannot be disputed. Giving free airtime for "infomercials" to get support for bills that the liberal don't want. Refusing to sell airtime to those who speak out against the President's agenda, while giving prominant placement to those who are for it.
If you want to be informed than go to the source rather than listening to the media. If you want to know what a particular piece of legislation says then read the bill. If you want to know where a candidate stands on issues look at their voting record and legislation that they've proposed or co sponsored. The media is not here to report the news. They exist to sell advertising.
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