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myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13370)   ranked 211 out of 6,369 in politics3 months ago

Is Obama a better talker than closer, more celebrity than statesman?

Despite Obama's fabled charm and powers of persuasion, his in-person plea for Chicago to host the 2016 Summer Games fell flat. It was a hugely embarrassing defeat. His adopted hometown — considered a front-runner heading into Friday's voting — didn't just lose, it took last place, shocking nearly all by getting knocked out in the first round while the remaining three contenders moved on.
The why-Chicago-lost story has many contributors, with Obama's last-minute flight to Copenhagen for an emotional appeal probably among the least of them. Regardless, he is now tied inexorably to Chicago's defeat, and that verdict isn't good.

Remember how Republican John McCain tried to stoke doubts about Obama during last year's presidential campaign by calling him all flash and no pan? A bit of that is in play here, too, where some perceive Obama as arrogantly relying too much on his celebrity status and not enough on the nitty-gritty work of winning votes.
For instance, some IOC members resented the fact that Obama blew into Copenhagen for just five hours, jetting back down the runway toward Washington hours before the result was even announced. Do you think this loss will hurt Obama?

 
 
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1. BaziIL (32)   ranked 1,768 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago


In my humble opinion, this loss might hurt Obama since it proves those people who might admire his charm that his charm starts to fade away and it's time he behaved as a president and not as a rock star.
On a personal note, I don't find him neither a celebrity nor a statesman, so for me he has no charm at all.


myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13370)   ranked 211 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

thumbup Your humble opinion is exactly the same as minethumbup
I am sorry I forgot to post the link to the article I quoted from:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091003/ap_on_go_pr_wh/oly_obama_olympics_analysis


myLot reputation of 83/100. K46620 (773)   ranked 603 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

I agree with your opinion.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. dloveli (999)   ranked 286 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

From the very beginning of the electoral process I said that I hoped that Obama/Clinton didnt win. It wasnt because of a democrat or republican thing. Its because I thought that if either of them won it wouldnt be because he or she was the right person for the job, it would be because it was a "first". First african american or first woman. When Obama did win I hoped that the celebrity thing would die down. To be quite honest I dont really follow politics because I honestly believe that we dont matter in the grand scheme of things. I do think that Obama was elected just because he was the first african american man to be elected president. He pays attention to the least important things. The things that are "fun or easy" if you will. I think the fact that he cant even achieve these types of things is just a preview of what's yet to come. I honestly feel that its a game to the Obama family. What to wear, a new dog, shopping at a farmers market, planting the first garden in some years, etc. These are all that is being reported on. What about the war? What about the sons and daughters of american families who have lost their lives to save ours? What about the homeless? What about healthcare? Yes I do think this loss hurt Obama. It shows he's not cut out for the job. dl


myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13370)   ranked 211 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

thumbup Excellent response! Very astute observations and I certainly agree with your points! Thank You!happy


myLot reputation of 97/100. bounce58 (816)   ranked 1,963 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

I just feel that he is still campaigning. Maybe it's time to stop caring about the trivial things and get to work. Spinning his wheels without traction.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. Lakota12 (17075)   ranked 157 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

I hope so but this morning the media is sort of trying to down play it and I also heard that hisplan for it never got passed the first vote and maybe was never inthe running.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Lakota12 (17075)   ranked 157 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

wasted more money jetting down there how much did that cost us?


myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13370)   ranked 211 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

As far as you saying "the media is sort of trying to down play it" What else did you expect... that would have been detrimental to his image!!!
To answer your question:
Taxpayers shelled out probably $1 million or more for the president, his wife and others to fly to Copenhagen and back to woo members of the International Olympic Committee.
A 2006 congressional study pegged the cost of flying Air Force One at $56,518 an hour. The Pentagon recently said it cost $100,219 an hour to fly the huge, reconfigured Boeing 747 without Obama aboard. The Pentagon estimate included more costs for support needs, such as maintenance.
At those rates, the president's 14-hour trip to Copenhagen and back cost about $790,000 to $1.4 million.
However, presidential travel requires additional spending, especially for security personnel and equipment. Also, first lady Michelle Obama and some administration officials traveled to Copenhagen at public expense ahead of the president.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/sns-ap-oly-obama-olympics-cost,0,5541015.story
Let us not forget Michelle Obama and her buddy and chief Obama supporter Oprah Winfrey had seperate expenses when they flew earlier than Obama and the poor dears had to fly on what they are calling AIR FORCE TWO. You know that also cost the taxpayers a bundle!

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4. myLot reputation of 47/100. N4life (349)   ranked 451 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

In the long run I don't think this will be anything for than a blip. He will be judged on the big issues like health care, economy, Afghanistan, Iran, etc..


myLot reputation of 47/100. N4life (349)   ranked 451 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

sorry..MORE than a blip

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. eaforeman6 (4205)   ranked 2,110 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

It would not be fair to hold it there just because Obama used to live there. There are many places that have been waiting for their turn. I would think to have it where it would most affect the economy in a positive way would be nice! Lots of factors have to be considered.

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6. myLot reputation of 55/100. Boffle (124)   ranked 3,425 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

Obama had been put in a very invidious position. All the other bid cities had high ranking support with them in Copenhagen: Madrid had King Juan Carlos, the King of Spain, and Tokyo and Rio each had their respective countries' Prime Ministers, so there was really no way that he could avoid going. After all, just imagine what would have happened if he hadn't attended and Chicago had lost; in that case his opponents would have been claiming that by not showing up he had damaged the bid.

Having said that, though, I do think this is personally damaging for him. As you say, it's never a good idea for a politician to be associated with failures or humiliations. And, in this case particularly, he didn't show himself in a good light. He arrived at the very last minute, apparently unwilling to do the behind the scenes work that this kind of thing requires, then he made a speech that was much too self centered (talking about*his* election, why*he* and*his* family would like the games to be held in*his* city), and then he disappered before the process had finished. To top it all, his advocacy failed to have any positive effect - feeding the perception that he is liked, but not listened to.

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7. myLot reputation of 21/100. kennyrose (4052)   ranked 2,963 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

Only the corrupted vile communist dictators like the Castor brothers,Hugo Chavez,David Ortega,Iran slim ball,etc have taken Obama serious,so far Obama has not brought home a meatless bone for the United States and has bankrupted our country to the hilt wanting to do even more grave damage to the United States make one ask who the hell side is Obama on?


myLot reputation of 86/100. starsailover (991)   ranked 1,049 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

Let me correct some mistakes you've make in your answer president of Cuba is Castro, not Castor, president of Nicaragua's names is Daniel Ortega, not David and i think they're not the only ones that takes Obama seriously

 
8. myLot reputation of 91/100. stealthy (2928)   ranked 1,056 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

I think he did more harm than good. He thinks of himself as a celebrity and there he was with Opra, who is a celebrity, trying to sway the Olympic committee which consists mainly of old world aristrocrat types and they are not only not swayed by the celebrity types but are turned off by them. So the reason Chicago was last is probably because Obama and Opra were there. I'm not saying Chicago would have won but the city probably would have come in second if they hadn't gone instead of a dismal last.


myLot reputation of 96/100. AmbiePam (15301)   ranked 768 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

I think Oprah would follow Obama anywhere. Watch out, Michelle...


myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13370)   ranked 211 out of 6,369 in politics  3 months ago

AmbiePam....Ha ha ha...and she is VERY rich!

 
9. myLot reputation of 96/100. AmbiePam (15301)   ranked 768 out of 6,369 in politics   3 months ago

I thought it was embarrassing. I didn't think Chicago would get the Olympics, but I certainly didn't think it would get eliminated in the first round. And what did they spend in tax dollars to go over there? Something like 1.2 million dollars to fly Obama and all the security over to Demark for the whole thing. I don't think it will hurt Obama much. I was really embarrassed for him. I mean it looked so bad for all the hoopla, and then splat! They got shown the door.

 
10. myLot reputation of 84/100. biman_s (583)   3 months ago

It isn't a shock for me as you can't just choose a place just because it's represented by the president of USA. Rio which is chosen for the games is a far better venue when compared to Chicago. Rio is Internationally more famous for its culture and topography. Its a wonderful place to host the Olympics. I am glad it Rio and not Chicago.

 
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