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myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education1 month ago

I must admit being sceptical about new teaching methods.As a parent with three kids going through the education system in England over 30 years have seen some changes .our kids used as guinea pigs for the next wacky phase of someones thinking what is best for out kids.We had the it does not matter stage about learning to spell or use grammer apparently it was the content of the work that was important.My daughter showed me some work in english that she had got an A for.The grammer was non existent and the spelling of a four year old.I rang the teacher and told her I was not happy with my daughter getting an A for the work she turned out.I was assured by this young hip teacher this was the way they were going with free expression and free thought.I let the teacher know if she continued to teach my child english in this way I would come to the school and let her hear my free thought and free expression in front of the head teacher and then we would see who would still be teaching by the end of the day.Apparently the rest of the parents were not very happy either and the teacher changed her ways quickly.Then we had SATS first introduced 20 years ago in England as an experiment,my daughter took this exam in math,english and science got straight A in all three,really pleased with her self,she was going to put these exam results in her cv for when she left school.only to be told six months later they were not being counted,and disbanded.Having said all that the new method they have adopted in primary school is not to have strict maths and english lesson but fed into every other subject my grandchildren are learning really well and enjoying school much more,so this idea seems to be working well.not disimilar to how we learnt at school many years before.

 
 
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ANTIQUELADY (11103) response was accepted on 11/23/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. dragon54u (9404)   ranked 136 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

When my kids were in school they began teaching differently. Luckily, my boys learned phonics and grammar and spelling. The classes after them were nearly illiterate using that new method! They stopped after a couple years but the damage was done.

You are right to tell that teacher you don't want those methods. Why are people always trying to improve on tried and true methods of education?! I think they want us to be illiterate. A population that can't read or write is easily controlled.


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I never looked at it like that but you may have a point.They go on and on about going to university in England then they price it out of the oridinary persons pocket,tuition fees,making the students take out massive loans,ect unless you are really well off you don't stand a chance. thumbdown

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. tamarafireheart (12467)   ranked 234 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

Hi suzzy,


Education today? what educations, the kids cannot spell their own names and what top jobs, they do not wnat to stat at the bottom and work their way up, I had conversation with my hubb about the education sustems today and what he told me was, it does not matter if the spell as the computer will do everything for them, their lack knowledge don't matter anymore using the three "Rs" like when we were thought, what do you expect when teachers themself are far too young and cannot spell for toffee for themselves.


Tamara


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I just hope the computers don't crash for more than an hour,it is a sad reflection but your husband is quite right .They will want us old ones then won't they.God help us all. thumbdown

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. ANTIQUELADY (11103)   ranked 84 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

i DON'T HAVE ONE IN SCHOOL NOW, THANK HEAVENS & I DEAD my grandson starting next year. There was 20 years years difference in my sons & it was amazing to me the difference there was from the time my oldest one went & when my youngest one did. What sticks out in my mind more than anything was when my younest' teacher told him in elementary school thet they could bring a calculator to school to do their math. I pitched a fit about that. I told my son he would not carry one he would learn to do it like he was suppose to. I also told the teacher that. When he was suppose to be getting the basics, he wasn't. I thought that was ridiculous & the teacher was just making it easy on herself. I very seldom had to go to school for my oldest son but it was sure a different story when my youngest was going. I know exactly how u feel sue so hang in there w/them.


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I had twenty years between my second and third going to school it was a bit of a nightmare both times for different reasons.calculators we not allowed till my youngest was 10 years old and even then only for certain lessons so they did know how to use them,when David went to secondary school he got into all sorts of trouble with the math teacher as he could do all the sums and calculations in his head quicker than a calculator.The headmaster at his primary school was old fashioned they all left that school with superb mental arithmetic and they were even taught to write with an ink pen,hand writing lessons.He was a marvellous head teacher.In fact when the first two went there he was the same.Getting back to secondary school one of his lessons was just using the calculator,We spent ages saying to him just do it Dave for goodness sake,it is not your only math lesson.He did use a calculator for his lesson in the end but under protest,you should meet my Dave he is something else.He was even sent to the head of year to account for his actions,"why bother with calculators when you have a head to work it out in,"he said,but in the end like I said he did it.The primary school even gave extra lessons in spelling so grateful to that school for all three of mine. thumbup


myLot reputation of 93/100. ANTIQUELADY (11103)   ranked 84 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I would love to meet your dave & u to. U are good folks in my book. Have a good sue & take care. jo


myLot reputation of 93/100. ANTIQUELADY (11103)   ranked 84 out of 1,722 in education  4 days ago

Thanks so much for both my best responsed. U have got me on a roll, i love it. Happy days to u. thumbup

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. anniefannie (1309)   ranked 997 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

good for you. more parents should let the schools know what they think about things that goes on.


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

So many parents find it so difficult to ask anything.I say go in there and be vocal not offensive of course that gets no one anywhere. thumbup

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5. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (5126)   ranked 615 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

Good on you for letting the teacher know how you felt! My daughter is seven and in Year Two. She appears to be doing well and has learnt to read and spell. The work does seem somewhat easier to me than what I was given at her age but it is difficult for me to make the comparison because I went to school in Italy form Year one to Year five and didn’t start school in Australia where we live now until Year six. I recall doing more mathematical work but my child does not do any maths homework; she says she does maths in class. It is all different, I just have to keep an eye on how she is going and, like you speak up if I am ever not happy. happy


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

In my expereince teachers like feed back from the parents.My daughter had a home visit from the teacher with her youngest,to meet him in his own home and get to know him first,what about that then.Keep your eye out for them some countries don't start formal education till six or seven which I think is probably better as they are that bit more mature.In England my son went to school full time two weeks after his 4th birthday,they are changing it a bit now and giving parents of summer born kids achoice of start dates.I wish I had waited till my son was nearly five. thumbup


myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (5126)   ranked 615 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

My daughter did kindergarten when she was four which was two full days a week. The following year she did pre-primary full time; both of these involved lots of play still. She didn't start full on school being year one until she was six. The home visit sounds like a good idea, I have never heard of a teacher taking the time out to do that!

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6. myLot reputation of 88/100. EnglishTeaDuck (725)   ranked 998 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

It is definitely different from when I was at school! In fact, I was in the first year to take GCSE's so I remember when we had O Levels before that, which my brother took!

I am all for free expression - I would like my kids to have the vocabulary, grammar and communication skills to be able to freely express what they want to say! Have you seen kids who have the 'free' without the appropriate skills? You know, the ones with a vocabulary of three words?...lol (see Little Britain or the Catherine Tate show for reference!)

I do think it is to do with the kids themselves and the parents though. I was taught to read by my parents before I even went to school, and numbers, colors, spelling, all that - even a bit of french from a student we had staying...! My parents considered that their responsibility, as well as the schools, so I think it helps when parents realize this.

The kids I feel sorry for are the ones who end up in a school that does not teach well, but have parents who don't care. That's sad, and you have to hope the child gets inspired somewhere along the way to WANT to learn something themselves.

It sounds like your children and grandchildren have a loving family to point them in the right direction!


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I was the last year to take C.S.E. along time ago now.We were taught to read and write properly and express outselves at home and school.My mother was never really educated herself properly spent her fomative years in an air raid shelter,plus she had TB and sick kids in those days were cared for but not really pushed in education especially if they were female.she did her best to help us,but felt safer leaving it up to the school.All three of mine were used to looking at books and telling the story from the pictures,colours,numbers a bit like yours.I cannot stand those yea but kids it drives me round the bend.I feel like saying come on for goodness sake I am interested in what you have to say,and find out how you feel about things,so sad no one takes an interest.All these kids growing up thinking they are not worth bothering with.My daughter plays with her little ones,when they were younger jigsaws,cooking,reading,sitting with them and explaining things I am extremely proud of her,both her kids are bright and happy and are willing to try anything and have a go at anything,try anything,marvellous. thumbup

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7. myLot reputation of 91/100. manong05 (2932)   ranked 996 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

I think in many parts of the world, the field of education is undergoing waves of changes as policy makers and education experts adapt the teaching approaches in line with changes in the society in the light of ever increasing developments in science and technology. Re-structuring, re-shaping, re-inventing the educational system is the order of the day.


In the old days, especially in the advent of industrialization, education is mainly geared to preparing children for work in factories. The subjects taught were basic reading and writing and simple arithmetic. As science and technology develops, researches are conducted as to the learning processes going on in man's brain and the capacity of man to learn something new. No wonder that some children are used as guinea pigs as they test their theories and concepts.

The world today is light years more advanced than yesterday's in a brief span of time so many things emerged and develop that teaching basic reading and writing is not enough. In a very age, concepts of computers are being introduced, logical reasoning is encouraged,and lots more.

Having said that, policy makers, teachers and school administrators should be working together. Parents or guardians must actively participate in every aspect that greatly affects their children.

have fun.


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

We must move with the times and adapt our education to the needs of the world the kids will grow up in and live in.Like you say the advancements in technology move so fast some of us find it very hard to deal with.You used to be able to sit and teach your kids with the basics and to a certain extent these aspects are still needed.Sometimes with computer spell checks,sending homework through email.Takes a way a lot of what we as parents still like to participate in.The closeness of sitting with your child with a book.The spelling list and learning times tables,square roots ect,feeling you are contributing towards their future and nurturing them.I think some parents find it very difficult to contribute to the extent they feel able.My four year old grandson sits at my computer quite happily typing in and playing games on his own,he has been doing this for about six months he is learning all the time for his world.I still insist he leaves technology behind for a while for a good old fashioned play on the swings and feed the ducks.Boring he says,boring but necessary I answer.

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. pede_22 (154)   ranked 995 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

I'm just a newly hired mathematics teacher here in the Philippines (22m). I think there's a lot of changes now in terms of educational system. A teacher has different strategies and styles on how to impart her/his lessons to her/his students. There are also many factors involve. It depends upon the school curriculum being used.
Last year, i taught in a private school. I was surprised because they used a modern type of teaching. I applied their methods of teaching although deep inside I don't like it because I was in born with the traditional type of teaching. There's no ASSIGNMENT that you will give to your students.It's actually in all subject areas. I DON'T LIKE IT!I want my students to compute, solve, and manipulate some mathematical problems at their home but it's their policy. So, as a teacher I'd never violated their policy. Their classroom instruction also is very different. It's a parallel type. Two sections at the same type. As a Math teacher, I have my facilitator (other teacher not math major) to assist me at the other section... The students must prepare always their activities daily, of course, all sujects. The teacher is just roaming around and facilitating their students. They eventually made this in order to develop the COMPREHENSION SKILLS of the students.
As of now, as a PUBLIC mathematics teacher here in the Philippines, I feel little astonished because I faced another NEW method of CURRICULUM. But stll, I strive hard to coap up all of these styles. Hopefully, I can adjust myself... lol
About your situation, maybe some of the students or classmates of your daughter belong to below average level, so the teacher is really engaged in an easy style of teaching strategy.
I think there are also some factors that we should try to look. Maybe we should let the teachers to attend seminars, lectures, then, devlop their skills in order to teach their lessons very well. They should also improve their knowledge throughout their lessons. They should not focus only at a certain subject but, it should be in all subjects...
I hope I help on this... GOD BLESS and Good luck to you and to your family.


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I think teachers are marvellous and forget how difficult it must be to adapt all the changes in the classroom and take my hat of to you for all your efforts.I remember the projects my kids used to come home with.Many a happy hours going through books with them,ringing up firms and companies for details they could use,all the trawling through library books to investigate and find out for themselves on a subject that took their fancy,in actual fact I still have some of their bulky folders of projects in my loft somewhere,they used to sit their with glue and scissors,cutting and pasting articles into their folders.They were taught to go out into the world and ask questions,find out from people,read from books,for the first two kids the internet did not exist,but my youngest son uses other sources of information gathering from the internet,amazing type into the browser and all that information comes up in minutes,everything they need,download .print of pages,not quite the same and not so much fun,but at the rate they have to learn probably the best way of doing things.I still feel they leant a lot more and it stayed with them longer,to develop into the next stage of learning thank you so much for the insight into the teachers prospective . thumbup

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9. myLot reputation of 90/100. sudiptacallingu (7064)   ranked 418 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

It seems that as parents, we are already old-fashioned and our kids are not yet out of school! It’s the same here in India too…new age schooling aims to lessen the pressures on kids and make education a thing to enjoy!!! I really don’t know how good that would come to, when we were in school we had to take our studies seriously, education was something not to be played with (read ‘enjoyed’) and teachers were to be respected and even feared. I still believe that was the best way… inculcating discipline, teaching a subject as it should be taught and giving education its due importance.
Being a former British colony, English is still very important in India and thankfully I have chosen a school for my son which lays great importance to the details of teaching every subject the way it should be taught and learnt. But very recently there was a survey report which stated that after the Govt decided to do away with formal examination till Std V and just promote students on yearly performance, most students promoted to Std VI could not even compose a large paragraph properly or do a little complicated but basic arithmetic!


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

Quite a bit of me see's discipline as something that must be taught and adhered to.We were taught with discipline and it did us no harm,nobody I know has ended up offending anybody in the street or riding out bikes down escalator in the malls.They do that now as they have not been taught proper self discipline.I beg to differ with you on enjoying school it was made to be fun for us,but god helped us if we stepped out of line.I would say it was the same at school as it was at home,not just for us but for everyone.You got the occasional family that was naughty and the parents could not care,but they were put in care,no messing around.Our teachers in the main were very kind but fair.They would not put up with any nonsence but we learn't well.I don't understand the std v,but it sounds like one of those systems where the kids are allowed to more or less do what they want to,thanks for a wonderful comment I have had so many interesting ones.really pleased best wishes. thumbup

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10. myLot reputation of 30/100. poojarai2007 (171)   ranked 999 out of 1,722 in education   1 month ago

Ya, thats true it happens in every country one decade before the method of teaching is different and now in 21 century methods are different now children are most enjoy the studies as compare to 1 decade before.


myLot reputation of 94/100. suzzy3 (3913)   ranked 70 out of 1,722 in education  1 month ago

I just wish I could keep up.Will keep trying to understand what is going on. thumbup

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