My son's regular teacher was not in class. I hate when she's not there.

@mommaj (23112)
United States
November 3, 2009 10:32am CST
The substitute that they had was one they had before. She greeted everyone except my son. We arrived there first, which might have miffed the woman since she was enjoying some fresh air. We stood near where they were. When she finally did decide to go to the room, my son decided he no longer wanted to go. I didn't pick him up and make him go, because I didn't want him crying. When we got to the room, the door was locked so I had to wait for it to be unlocked. When my son got into the class room another child came in at the same time. She dolled over that girl and then as the kids came in she talked to all of them, but my son. I am so glad he doesn't understand because I thought that was rude.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
4 Nov 09
You need to talk to the principal again. That b*%#! has a problem. My school would not tolerate anyone being mean to a child.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I'm glad you said that. You are in the school system and would be a good person to tell me if I was looking at it the wrong way. That principal has a chair with my name on it. Usually they have chairs with the students name, not since I have been there. LOL
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
1 Dec 09
Yeah, I have really tried to help the autistic kids in this area by telling the teacher and the principle what I think they should do with the autistic class. They would really like me to keep my opinions to myself. The teacher doesn't mind, she actually agrees. She just keeps saying that there is no way to change. I don't believe that. With more children being diagnosed with autism than the last few years, they are going to have to change and they are going to have to be able to handle more autistic children and all the situations that come with that.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
5 Nov 09
You have to stick up for your kids no matter what. Sometimes even when they are wrong the school is still not right. In your son's case they can not hear enough from you and not just about your kids either.
• Boston, Massachusetts
4 Nov 09
Hi MJ, That is really rude. Did you discuss this incident with the head teacher to call her attention for singling-out your son? I will not allow that to happen too to my son. Right there i will do something to let her realize that she's not acting as what she's suppose to do as teacher. I just hope she will be enlightened if ever a discussion will happen and she will treat your son right this time. GO MJ!
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Thanks for your encouragement. You know how hard it is for us to deal with our children. We shouldn't have to deal with rude teachers as well.
• Boston, Massachusetts
6 Nov 09
Yes. WE always want the best and the friendliest teacher for our kids, somebody who will have the heart for our kids and passion to really teach special learners like our kids!
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
1 Dec 09
I am actually sad that my son will be going not only to a different teacher next year, but to a different school.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
5 Nov 09
Mommaj, I am so sorry you have to endure crap like this. No parent or child should have to be concerned about a teacher treating their child fairly. I would be in the principal's office so fast, they would think Nascar had come to town. If you hear about or personally see someone mistreating your child, you have an obligation to do everything in your power to stop it. I have a grandson who has Asperger's Syndrome along with Autism so I fully understand your concerns. When your son does something that is not acceptable, it is up to the teacher to let the parents know and work with them to correct it. People who work with special needs children have to be even more vigilant in doing their job. It sounds like that substitute is being more childish than the children she is responsible for. Do not stand for it. If you suspect that your child is being mistreated (and being ignored is a brutal form of mistreatment for a child) then immediately call for a conference with the principal and the teachers involved. If you are not satisfied with the results, escalate your complaint to the school board. Ask for special permission to sit in on your son's classes. If necessary, call everyday and make a tentative appointment for the next day. Keep them on their toes. I agree with another poster here that the 24 hour rule is bull$#!@. I have sat in my grandson's class any number of times. I simply showed up and asked to audit the class. My son has gone to the school on the spur of moment to observe playtime. When there was a concern, his teachers were open and happy that they had someone that was concerned. When I asked about some action that they took or something they said and it did not sound right when recounted by my grandson, they had no problem explaining what happened and why they did or said what they did. We were able to talk about everything and reach some agreement as to what should be done at home and how they would handle future problems. When we noticed his grades falling behind in spite of everything we were doing at home, we discussed it with the teacher so we could work out a new strategy. The end results were, he received a "Most Improved Student Reward." I firmly believe that the early school years are critical because they set the framework for how they feel about school the rest of their life. If school is painful, they cannot learn and if they do not learn, eventually, they drop out. I saw on CNN that one third of our children here in the US do not graduate from highschool. Children with autism and other special needs must be protected by cruel and incompetent people so they can thrive in the school environment. Don't think your son doesn't understand. He does. Everyone knows the difference when they are not being treated fairly and equally.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
5 Nov 09
Luckily, this was a substitute. I asked the teacher to let me know when the woman would be subbing because I wasn't going to bring my child to school. She was really surprised to hear about the woman's attitude. Maybe the sub was having a bad day, but I don't care. No one is going to take their problems out on my son. He doesn't deserve that, no one does.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Nov 09
It was very rude. Any idea why she might have done that? Even if she had a past problem with your son, that's no excuse.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Nov 09
ah, it gives you such a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling when you see that your children are being taught by such people... Dawn practices her sarcasm...
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Yeah, my fuzzy feeling is going to be spreading because I will be the itch they can't get rid of no matter how hard they scratch. Practicing anger management. You are much better at the sarcasm than I am at the anger management. Practicing to look innocent as well. LOL
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
3 Nov 09
I have no idea. I asked the aide before I left the school if he had done something to her, did I need to take him home. Her answer was not that she knew of, but if I wanted to take him home that was completely up to me. That's just the aide though. She is just harsh.
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@kprofgames (3089)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Actually he does understand and that is probably why he didn't want to be there. I would suggest talking to the teacher and telling her what is going on. The substitute needs to be in tune with ALL the children, not just a select few. I would raise the issue up with the head teacher and even the principal or ask the principal to sit in the class when this substitute is there. There isn't any reason she has to act like that towards your son. No reason at all. If she has personal issues, then she has to be the professional that she is and just deal with it. If this were my child, I'd talk to his head teacher and the prinicpal becuase this substitute needs her attitude checked at the door before she enters the classroom.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Before I left the school, I said something to the aide. I asked if he had done something or if I needed to take him home. I swear, I think I am just going to find out when the teacher is going to be off and he will stay at home on those days. He can't get much out of class if noone is willing to talk to him. I really don't understand because he is so sweet and doesn't deserve that. I am sure I will be talking with the teacher tomorrow.
• United States
3 Nov 09
I understand how you feel and i felt that way too; however, there shouldn't be any reason that you have to pull a child out of school because the teacher has personal issues. You need to speak to the teacher and the principal of the school and tell them what is going on. YOU as a parent have a lot of power and YOU as a parent of a special needs child can use your parental rights and those rights of your son to get the kind of edcuation he needs. This is a teacher that shouldn't be in the classroom. Yes talk to the head teacher, but please also talk to the principal and tell him/her what is going on. They might not have any idea but it's setting the example that only his main teacher can teach him - that's a bad example for your son. It might take alittle time but this is for him remember. You have a voice because you are a parent and I encourage you to use it.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I definitely let the teacher know. She was apologetic. She said there was no one that would teach pre-k. When it comes to special education on top of it, there are even fewer teachers to choose from. She said the lady just does not know how to talk to the kids so she doesn't. How can she pretend she is going to teach them if she can't talk to the children?
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
4 Nov 09
Fortunately she's only the substitute teacher, and not a very good substitute teacher. I think it's stupid of her to take offense of whatever she thinks your son did. Kids are kids, they mean no harm. Glad your son doesn't understand rudeness too.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
5 Nov 09
haha, your son will grow to a ripe old age since he has a young mind. fortunately he does not go around biting people like a 2 years old kid, else everyone will fear this little terror oh. I think that substitute teacher is really not up to standard. if she continues for a month duration, I bet she can go mad.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
1 Dec 09
HAHAHA. He started the bite thing, but quickly grew out of that. I guess he realized he was hurting me. I was the only one he bit and most of the time it was accidental. I wonder what his little teeth would have done if he really wanted to. Most of the time he would watch for my reaction. I think the one time that I almost dropped him as we were walking because he bit me, cured him.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I can't imagine my son doing anything offensive because he has about a two year olds mind. At this point he is still sweet and starting the terrible two thing. Maybe she doesn't like babies.
@katisaurus (1038)
• Canada
4 Nov 09
I agree with some of the comments. He probably does understand and that's why he didn't want to go when he saw her. I think with the whole H1N1 thing going around teachers are very edged towards not going to class with the slightest thing of a cold because it could be anything. I think maybe you should have a chat. Be it a substitute or a full-time teacher she needs to understand it's degrading to kids whether she thinks they get it or not, and she can't be ignoring certain kids and favoring others.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I'm not sure she even knew she did it. I hope she didn't do it on purpose, but it wasn't endowing towards me or my son. I think my son was really scared to go to school today. He started fussing in the parking lot. Then he saw the aide and he screamed out. He went into his classroom and he was upset until he realized it was the regular teacher. Then he flipped a switch and he was happy.
@silverglint (2000)
• Philippines
4 Nov 09
Poor child, he is experiencing discrimination and rejection at a young age. Have you ever tried talking to the sub teacher? Maybe she did not intentionally do it or maybe she did but at least you can find out what her reason is. One thing you should do it to take this chance to teach your child how to handle rejection. It's a cruel world out there and the earlier we can teach our kids to handle these things, the better their chances to survive.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Unfortunately, I don't think he understands these things. He does well with rejection because he is in his own world and really doesn't care if someone doesn't want to be a part of it. I think he can actually teach me how to deal with the rejection for him.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I actually think I would set up a meeting with this teacher especially if she is going to be a regular substitute. Maybe she is unaware of the fact that she is ignoring your son. Then again, maybe not. You are the only one that will advocate for your son and I think you should speak up....not in front of him, of course. He may not have said anything but I'm thinking maybe he did pick up on her attitude which may be why he didn't want to go in.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I think he picked up on her and didn't want to go. Today he started fussing in the parking lot. He cried when he saw the aide. I had a hard time getting him to his room. He was happy when he saw his regular teacher. He started talking to her.
@Wizzywig (7847)
4 Nov 09
Presumably there is a set time for children to arrive - or is it flexible? Here the teacher should be either at the door or in the room as the children come in. If you arrive before the specified time, then you wait outside the classroom unless invited in. Was your child the first to enter the room? If she spoke to ALL the other children then she was completely out of order to ignore your child. How many children are there in the class? Have you made a complaint about this substitute before? If you have, its no excuse for her to ignore your son but it could be her reason. I have worked as a supply (substitute) teacher and it is not the easiest of jobs because they are often treated as second class citizens by staff, parents and pupils. Here, they have to have qualified teacher status and an enhanced Criminal Records Bureau document. I'm not sure that applies to subs there?? But... this substitute was in the wrong if her actions made you or your son feel less valued than everyone else.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
There are approximately 8-10 students and a teacher and aide. The aide doesn't come to class until after 8 because she has bus duty. The teacher will open her door after 7:30. School starts at eight and I usually get there 15 min. early because I have a daughter that I walk to her class as well. The older kids are allowed in at 7:50 I hardly ever make it to her class by then. LOL I never complained about this sub before. In fact, I thought she was okay. I only see her for a few seconds so I couldn't tell you the first thing about her. I don't even know her name. She doesn't take the time like the teacher does to tell me what happened that day when I pick him up. So as far as I know she could have been in another room the whole day. LOL
• Italy
4 Nov 09
I definitely agree with the others, he does understand and that's the reason why he didn't want to go there. I could say maybe talking to the teacher could help, but most times that doesn't do the trick, and I hate to say it, but probabily the best is to get along with it and one day he'll not have to see that teacher anymore. I hate there are still so rude teachers nowadays-
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Yeah, I think he knew too. When I took him in today, he didn't want to go. He saw the aide and started crying which is something he normally doesn't do. Then when he got to the classroom he saw the teacher and a switch flipped in him and he was happy and fine. I think that says there may have been a problem yesterday.
• Canada
4 Nov 09
I went through that with one of my son's teachers, in fact it was so bad that my son was not allowed in the classroom his EA had to teach him outside the class, I got so fed up that the school was working against my son that I had him transferred into another school.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Oh, I feel bad for you. I actually want my child in a separate class. He is classic autistic and can't really speak yet. Granted, he is four, but I don't see where he will ever be on his physical age mentality. That's okay. I am preparing myself. I just don't want the teacher to ignore him. I know he will have problems with the other students, but I at least want the teacher to be social.
@jayzelle (76)
4 Nov 09
his teacher is unprofessional as a teacher he/she should be a role model to his or her student's. for me that's one of the reason why he is not interested on going to classes.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Thankfully it is only his sub. I think he knows that she doesn't want to be bothered and that is why he didn't want to go to class. His regular teacher was back today. He didn't want to be there until we got to the class room and he saw her. He started talking to her in his way. It was cute.