My son's regular teacher was not in class. I hate when she's not there.  |
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The substitute that they had was one they had before. She greeted everyone except my son. We arrived there first, which might have miffed the woman since she was enjoying some fresh air. We stood near where they were. When she finally did decide to go to the room, my son decided he no longer wanted to go. I didn't pick him up and make him go, because I didn't want him crying. When we got to the room, the door was locked so I had to wait for it to be unlocked. When my son got into the class room another child came in at the same time. She dolled over that girl and then as the kids came in she talked to all of them, but my son. I am so glad he doesn't understand because I thought that was rude.
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1. kprofgames (1451) | 2 months ago | Actually he does understand and that is probably why he didn't want to be there. I would suggest talking to the teacher and telling her what is going on. The substitute needs to be in tune with ALL the children, not just a select few. I would raise the issue up with the head teacher and even the principal or ask the principal to sit in the class when this substitute is there.
There isn't any reason she has to act like that towards your son. No reason at all. If she has personal issues, then she has to be the professional that she is and just deal with it.
If this were my child, I'd talk to his head teacher and the prinicpal becuase this substitute needs her attitude checked at the door before she enters the classroom.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | Before I left the school, I said something to the aide. I asked if he had done something or if I needed to take him home. I swear, I think I am just going to find out when the teacher is going to be off and he will stay at home on those days. He can't get much out of class if noone is willing to talk to him. I really don't understand because he is so sweet and doesn't deserve that. I am sure I will be talking with the teacher tomorrow.
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kprofgames (1451) | 2 months ago | I understand how you feel and i felt that way too; however, there shouldn't be any reason that you have to pull a child out of school because the teacher has personal issues.
You need to speak to the teacher and the principal of the school and tell them what is going on. YOU as a parent have a lot of power and YOU as a parent of a special needs child can use your parental rights and those rights of your son to get the kind of edcuation he needs.
This is a teacher that shouldn't be in the classroom. Yes talk to the head teacher, but please also talk to the principal and tell him/her what is going on. They might not have any idea but it's setting the example that only his main teacher can teach him - that's a bad example for your son.
It might take alittle time but this is for him remember. You have a voice because you are a parent and I encourage you to use it.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | I definitely let the teacher know. She was apologetic. She said there was no one that would teach pre-k. When it comes to special education on top of it, there are even fewer teachers to choose from. She said the lady just does not know how to talk to the kids so she doesn't. How can she pretend she is going to teach them if she can't talk to the children?
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2. dawnald (10203) | 2 months ago | It was very rude. Any idea why she might have done that? Even if she had a past problem with your son, that's no excuse.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | I have no idea. I asked the aide before I left the school if he had done something to her, did I need to take him home. Her answer was not that she knew of, but if I wanted to take him home that was completely up to me. That's just the aide though. She is just harsh.
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dawnald (10203) | 2 months ago | ah, it gives you such a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling when you see that your children are being taught by such people...
Dawn practices her sarcasm...
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3. fjaril (4578) | 2 months ago | grrrrr. I hate that! I don't know how it is there, but here teachers are also not perfect but have a duty, an obligation to do the very best for the children in their care. The issue of well being and learning of the child rests with the teacher who is with him.. not the teachers needing their well being needs met by rejecting students. I would also hope a parent would come directly to me if they sensed a problem, because I believe I am duty bound to consider the welfare of all my kids; NOT the other way around. Failing that, they should indeed, to my embarrassment, of course, go to the principle and lay out the problem. Absolutely and the principle then has an obligation to discuss it with me and to know exactly what steps I shall take to rectify the situation.
Quite clear. It might behoove you to find out the policy,, if you have a problem with the teacher there, should you go to that teacher first or to the principle?? policy should be clear to parents and parents should have a clear easy way to share their concerns for their kids.
yes.. you son senses more than one gives him credit perhaps. I would call hi a little old wise one.. doesn't let on but 'feels' and 'senses' anyway.
Lucky thing he has YOU for a mom!
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | The regular teacher is great and I have came to at least understand the aide. I just wish they could find a decent sub! I felt like it would be a waste of his time being at school today. He could probably have gotten as much interaction with the television. LOL I just picked him up and they at least tried to color one worksheet with him.
Tomorrow I am sure the teacher will be expecting me. She usually knows when I am going to come to her. LOL Maybe her aide tells her or maybe she knows what type of sub she really has.
I know that the only thing the principal does is pacify the parents by telling them what they want to hear. I would like to know why you can't drop in on your child though. I never could get a straight answer from the principal. You have to give a 24 hour notice just so you won't interrupt class. Okay fine. If you are doing something you aren't supposed to do, how is one going to catch you. LOL
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fjaril (4578) | 2 months ago | hahahah.. my thoughts exactly!! Very good thinking. Sorry I laughed but it just caught me off guard! YOU are so right.. AND sharp!!
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | I guess wisdom comes through trial and errors and I have been exposed enough to know it doesn't matter who's who anyone can hurt a child. I was going to put except for the parent or caregiver, but unfortunately that isn't even true.
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fjaril (4578) | 2 months ago | yes.. I am glad you have this wisdom.. I know one needs to have it.. an awareness AND an instinct as well.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | When it comes to my kids, noone is going to get close enough to hurt them. That includes teachers. I don't like the fact you have to give 24 hour notice to check on your child. Fortunately, I am not a parent that suspects foul play. I think they do an excellent job except for the subs. I guess I don't like change. LOL
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fjaril (4578) | 2 months ago | What a mum you are! grrr!
But, the 24 hour thingy is a buttcover I think.
And if the subs are the problem .. who looks after that problem then.. the principle? not really eh? Such problems not addressed means that subs have clean records and keep doing what they are to other kids as well. This activity I am totally against. Subs should NOT have rights above and beyond any other teacher. I am really glad you have a great teacher there for your son and that you can talk to her, but the principal should also know better.. HE/ SHE must be held accountable?? Any chance you can ask her the right procedure, since she understands you and the situation??
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4. scheng1 (1702) | 2 months ago | Fortunately she's only the substitute teacher, and not a very good substitute teacher. I think it's stupid of her to take offense of whatever she thinks your son did. Kids are kids, they mean no harm. Glad your son doesn't understand rudeness too.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | I can't imagine my son doing anything offensive because he has about a two year olds mind. At this point he is still sweet and starting the terrible two thing. Maybe she doesn't like babies.
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scheng1 (1702) | 2 months ago | haha, your son will grow to a ripe old age since he has a young mind. fortunately he does not go around biting people like a 2 years old kid, else everyone will fear this little terror oh. I think that substitute teacher is really not up to standard. if she continues for a month duration, I bet she can go mad.
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mommaj (1084) | 4 weeks ago | HAHAHA. He started the bite thing, but quickly grew out of that. I guess he realized he was hurting me. I was the only one he bit and most of the time it was accidental. I wonder what his little teeth would have done if he really wanted to. Most of the time he would watch for my reaction. I think the one time that I almost dropped him as we were walking because he bit me, cured him.
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Canellita (3307) | 4 weeks ago | Ok, that's not funny, but it's so hilarious! I am glad he is smart enough to figure out he needed to stop!
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5. Canellita (3307) | 2 months ago | You need to talk to the principal again. That b*%#! has a problem. My school would not tolerate anyone being mean to a child.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | I'm glad you said that. You are in the school system and would be a good person to tell me if I was looking at it the wrong way. That principal has a chair with my name on it. Usually they have chairs with the students name, not since I have been there. LOL
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Canellita (3307) | 2 months ago | You have to stick up for your kids no matter what. Sometimes even when they are wrong the school is still not right. In your son's case they can not hear enough from you and not just about your kids either.
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mommaj (1084) | 4 weeks ago | Yeah, I have really tried to help the autistic kids in this area by telling the teacher and the principle what I think they should do with the autistic class. They would really like me to keep my opinions to myself. The teacher doesn't mind, she actually agrees. She just keeps saying that there is no way to change. I don't believe that. With more children being diagnosed with autism than the last few years, they are going to have to change and they are going to have to be able to handle more autistic children and all the situations that come with that.
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Canellita (3307) | 4 weeks ago | I wonder at how many of the diagnosed children actually have autism. There is a teacher where I work who uses sarcasm a lot in a mean way and I wonder what I should do about it. I kind of feel bad for the kids.
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ongtina (198) | 4 weeks ago | Hi, I remembered those classroom situations you were writing about. That was 3 years back. My son is autistic and I was allowed in the class with him. Year 1 was okay cos there was another class combined and another teacher in together (2 teachers) but year 2 which was 3 years ago, the classes split and back to norm so there wasn't another teacher looking on how the teacher behaved. Even with me the mom in and looking, my son was made to felt non-existence. The teacher would call all the other children's name to mark attendance except my son's, daily affair. Even with giving out of the workbooks, it would be the same, she would call one by one except my son, then she would pass it to another child to pass it to us. It badly affected both of us. The worst part was her saying to the other children who did a little wrong "shall we get your mummy to be in the class ....." and many other sarcastic words, in front of the whole class and us. Year 1 my son's results passed but in year 2, he failed. His confidence was smashed. Year 3 and 4 won't good too cos although they had changed teachers, those teachers couldn't accept him as a child, not that he's bad, there were other problematic children (behavior) but they are not labelled, the teachers would teach them repeatedly but my son's labelled "special need---autistic" so they can't see him as their student. In front of my son, they would always mentioned "go to the sppecial need school". Luckily this year and thank God, there are 2 teachers, his form teacher and his english teacher that are able to accept him and finally there is a sense of "belonging". For the past 3 years, only 1 form teacher that teach every thing except chinese. See how badly affected. This year, my son's result had doubled in marks, not yet pass, but we are happy that his confidence is improving. Next year will be his last year in this school and I hope he will still be under these 2 teachers. This is also the 1st year that I need not be in the class cos the teachers accept him and handles him themselves. Actually in pre school, I wasn't needed in the class too and my son attended pre school like others without mom.
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Canellita (3307) | 4 weeks ago | Wow. It makes me so angry to hear of that teacher and the harm that was caused. Today it was really hard for me not to be impatient with my students. There was one kid in particular who was just not getting it and normally he does well. You really have to be careful what you say because the least little thing causes the kids to get this look on their face as if they are being picked on.
Or students just had an entire week off for the Thanksgiving holiday and while everyone needed the break (teachers included) it also throws things off and it is so hard to get the kids back into their routine and my classes are their fun time!
I hear the way some other teachers talk to kids and it makes me so self-conscious because I worry that I sound as mean or sarcastic as they do when I talk. My students are young and the wrong thing can harm them the way your son was harmed.
I am glad your son is doing better and getting proper instruction from a good teacher. I hope that he will continue to progress and become at least somewhat independent so you do not have to worry about him in his adult years.
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mommaj (1084) | 4 weeks ago | I am so thankful I had joined some of the social sites that I did. I feel so much better about my son's ability. I think he will eventually be able to dress himself and maybe even take care of himself. I hope so for his sake. I see alot of little progresses. I read where these other people are having battles with their child and I thank God that hasn't happened yet and I pray that it doesn't, especially as he gets older.
It's funny, he just got a pen and was "coloring" in a coloring book and I heard him say "scribble, scribble". I guess that's what they are saying to him at school. I don't know. It was funny to hear him say it. He was associating what he was doing.
If you are making a conscious effort to not talk to the kids meanly, then, chances are good you don't.
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Canellita (3307) | 4 weeks ago | A friend of mine whose specialty is special ed told me I don't have anything to worry about and I actually talked to my Principal about it last night at the Xmas party, you know, learning the language, and she remarked about that as well. I guess it just shows there is always something new you can learn.
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6. msfrancisco9369 (2136) | 2 months ago | Hi MJ,
That is really rude. Did you discuss this incident with the head teacher to call her attention for singling-out your son? I will not allow that to happen too to my son. Right there i will do something to let her realize that she's not acting as what she's suppose to do as teacher. I just hope she will be enlightened if ever a discussion will happen and she will treat your son right this time. GO MJ!
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | Thanks for your encouragement. You know how hard it is for us to deal with our children. We shouldn't have to deal with rude teachers as well.
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msfrancisco9369 (2136) | 2 months ago | Yes. WE always want the best and the friendliest teacher for our kids, somebody who will have the heart for our kids and passion to really teach special learners like our kids!
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mommaj (1084) | 4 weeks ago | I am actually sad that my son will be going not only to a different teacher next year, but to a different school.
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msfrancisco9369 (2136) | 4 weeks ago | ...why is there a need for him to transfer to another school? is there no further level in his present school? you must be happy and satisfied with how his teacher is doing her job as it relates to your son's academic and psycho-social intervention and development. let's pray that your son will be blessed with a passionate teacher and a supportive school!
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mommaj (1084) | 4 weeks ago | The school he is in now doesn't have a class that isn't as lenient as what he has now. Their classes don't have people that can help him at the level he is at. He needs someone to help him color and pick things up or put things away. This school doesn't have a class for him as he progresses.
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msfrancisco9369 (2136) | 4 weeks ago | really? we have a pull out session to give focus on a particular subject where my son in the mainstream program i shaving difficulty. there is also a shadow teacher to assist them in their class activities and seatwork. i am happy with the kind of school my kids are in now. even the teachers are so committed and passionate to create improvements in them. this is the best school ever for my kids out of four???
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7. katisaurus (831) | 2 months ago | I agree with some of the comments. He probably does understand and that's why he didn't want to go when he saw her. I think with the whole H1N1 thing going around teachers are very edged towards not going to class with the slightest thing of a cold because it could be anything. I think maybe you should have a chat. Be it a substitute or a full-time teacher she needs to understand it's degrading to kids whether she thinks they get it or not, and she can't be ignoring certain kids and favoring others.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | I'm not sure she even knew she did it. I hope she didn't do it on purpose, but it wasn't endowing towards me or my son. I think my son was really scared to go to school today. He started fussing in the parking lot. Then he saw the aide and he screamed out. He went into his classroom and he was upset until he realized it was the regular teacher. Then he flipped a switch and he was happy.
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| 8. workingmommy (63) | 2 months ago | I went through that with one of my son's teachers, in fact it was so bad that my son was not allowed in the classroom his EA had to teach him outside the class, I got so fed up that the school was working against my son that I had him transferred into another school.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | Oh, I feel bad for you. I actually want my child in a separate class. He is classic autistic and can't really speak yet. Granted, he is four, but I don't see where he will ever be on his physical age mentality. That's okay. I am preparing myself. I just don't want the teacher to ignore him. I know he will have problems with the other students, but I at least want the teacher to be social.
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9. paleorainy (609) | 2 months ago | I definitely agree with the others, he does understand and that's the reason why he didn't want to go there. I could say maybe talking to the teacher could help, but most times that doesn't do the trick, and I hate to say it, but probabily the best is to get along with it and one day he'll not have to see that teacher anymore. I hate there are still so rude teachers nowadays-
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | Yeah, I think he knew too. When I took him in today, he didn't want to go. He saw the aide and started crying which is something he normally doesn't do. Then when he got to the classroom he saw the teacher and a switch flipped in him and he was happy and fine. I think that says there may have been a problem yesterday.
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10. silverglint (1479) | 2 months ago | Poor child, he is experiencing discrimination and rejection at a young age. Have you ever tried talking to the sub teacher? Maybe she did not intentionally do it or maybe she did but at least you can find out what her reason is. One thing you should do it to take this chance to teach your child how to handle rejection. It's a cruel world out there and the earlier we can teach our kids to handle these things, the better their chances to survive.
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mommaj (1084) | 2 months ago | Unfortunately, I don't think he understands these things. He does well with rejection because he is in his own world and really doesn't care if someone doesn't want to be a part of it. I think he can actually teach me how to deal with the rejection for him.
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