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myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers4 weeks ago

It's happened to all of us, we're responding, commenting or discussing and we get a response or comment back and the person has misunderstood you! Of course your thinking "ahh, Why didn't you understand" of course your not going to ask said person that because understandably we were at one time new members (for those responses made by newbies who don't understand or don't bother to read thoroughly), we're all from different countries with different things going through our minds.

I know, even I find myself to be confusing at times, I'll be thinking, talking to someone, or just not sure how to say something... and then BAM! I've confused someone, sometimes including myself, or I've received a response or comment in turn that is confusing to me...

So what do you do? Ignore it, curse at the person, or apologize and then clarify, hoping to lengthen the discussion as well as help the new member, or person whose first language is not english...

Come on, be honest!

I'll tell you, I get aggravated, annoyed, or disappointed but try to help because afterall we're all confused at one point, and all new as well...

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 96/100. natnickeep (221)   ranked 4,316 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

This is a dicussion so I beleive it should go all ways. I would be honest but in the nicest possible way. Like saying That is not exactally what I meant but.......and maybe look at their perspective also. It could start a whole nother discussion. Which is never a problem with me. Or if I am confussed I try to just give a simple answer, and use my best judgement on what they really meant.


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

I didn't think of a response made in a different person's perspective, but those are also rampant discussions here. It makes it hard to make a discussion inviting only one opinion. Though it's better to have many, it's easier to have a discussion where all parties agree so as to not need to defend one's opinion or to not start a fight... hmmm... I will often try to clarify or if I am not sure on a response or comment I'll do my best to understand, often stating that I don't understand but that is response or comment to them in the best of my ability given what I did understand from said response or comment.

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. bounce58 (668)   ranked 375 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

I just say thank you for responding, and try to undestand their way of thinking on why they misunderstood the topic of the discussion. I keep it short because if I add more to the discussion they might just get more confused.
Usually, if it is a response from somebody who trully understands the discussion then that's where I make a conscious effort to write a lengthy discussion. Nice to connect with a like mind.


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

I find that the more said the more understood, but even so, sometimes it ends up being the less said the more understood... or even illustrations can sometimes be in order, or even so much a simple definition for a word... especially with so many words in the English language either meaning the same thing or pronounced the same or close to the same way.

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3. myLot reputation of 78/100. mysdianait (11947)   ranked 860 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

Oh this happens so often almost every day too.

I try and explain things clearly to the new users but somehow many of them do not understand, So I go back, rewrite what I said the first time with different words and then hope and keep the page open and I keep going back until they get it clear - then the post usually gets deleted because it was in the FAQs in the first place! dohlol

I can appreciate that many of them do not understand certain ways of saying things (like 'earnings' and 'payments' often get confused) and I try and put myself in their shoes. I was a foreigner here once and that was not an easy situation so I can understand what it must be like for many here.

It is not the new users who aggravate me. It is usually the older ones who speak perfect English but explain things as they understand them, and not how they really are, that gets me more irritated surrender


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Mysdianait, I knew you would say that! Lol! I am very glad that you are member here as you seem to have more patience, though putting yourself into the others shoes is definitely a must if you plan to be so understand and patient... Now the latter part with those who speak English perfectly but will type in the way they understand it, that is a bit confusing to me. What do you mean?

I hope I do not do that!


myLot reputation of 78/100. mysdianait (11947)   ranked 860 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Oh dear, you are the third person this week to say that you knew I was going to say that when they comment on my response - at least I'm consistent! lol

The last bit? For example I spend half an hour explaining the significance of the star, how you acquire one and all that goes with it and then along comes a more senior user saying that they are not important and just add some colour to the pages dohsurrender


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Mysdianait, you are very honest, and that is good. I guess we all come to expect what you'll say...

Oh I try not to butt my nose in unless I understand completely, or if I don't I let the person know I am not sure, and usually say you'll be along to clarify it all up! lol!


myLot reputation of 78/100. mysdianait (11947)   ranked 860 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Oh I definately wasn't meaning you! It's often someone who has not posted for months and they just come and blurt somethingout for a penny.

Funny you should say that about me clarifying... one friend even mentioned in a post recently that I would be along later to post the right link lol There is a lot of teamwork of late and that is fantastic! thumbup


myLot reputation of 94/100. purplealabaster (760)   ranked 186 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

shocked You mean those stars actually DO something other than make the page all colorful?!doh*looks around the room suspiciously* Wait, that wasn't just me blurting out those words in an attempt to make a penny, was it?whistle


myLot reputation of 94/100. purplealabaster (760)   ranked 186 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Just like other people knew what you were going to say, you just had to know that I was going to come along and mess with you, MysD. whistle rasp

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. AmbiePam (15263)   ranked 2,712 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

I hate when that happens! It's the worst when not only the person misunderstands me, but responds with hateful comments. When that happens I don't even feel inclined to clear up the confusion. I remember one time a lady responded with extreme anger and was quite insulting to me over a discussion that only she had misunderstood. She was American like me, so the language barrier was not a factor. I didn't even have to defend myself that time because another mylotter got annoyed for me and responded to them. I appreciated that because they straightened her out without rancor, and the lady then apologized to me. I was completely caught off guard when that happened.

It makes me more aware that I can misunderstand someone's discussions, so in all of my responses I try not to "cop" an attitude when something upsets me. Most of the time I succeed, but not all of the time.: (


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

When attitudes flair I tend to run away. I feel somewhat bad for those who misunderstand and respond or comment with such a hateful attitude, I know in their shoes I'd feel terrible if I did that and then was corrected in either much the same way (anger and meanness) or in a kind way... either way, I'd feel awful and be less likely to respond to them in the future because of my embarrassment.

Upon reflection, I am reminded of a time I made a discussion and a responder was rude to me assuming things, and while I corrected them, so did someone else and then I reported the person who was rude to me, and they hadn't responded since, though I believe they were soon after banned!

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5. myLot reputation of 58/100. coldmoon (875)   ranked 2,839 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

I won't mind if the others misunderstand what I mean as long as the induced ideas don't make them think about me as in a bad way. Sometime, a confusion cheers me, because I find that my words are multi-meanings, haha.


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Oh it's always great to come across responses that while meant the person misunderstood, is still a great response in that you thought of a different approach, way to see things, or like you said, a multi meaning to said scenario, or discussion!

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2778)   ranked 541 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

I would keep trying to explain in different ways until the person understood mehappy

This is quite important in the discussions and in the end both members will be better off if neither gives up until some understanding has been reached.

If the other member became abusive then that may change my way of doing things.

I would just stop there and not bother responding to that member although I have been known in the past to return the abuse but really I have found that embarrassing to myself when I have done this.

In the guidelines it does encourage us to try and clarify any points which may not be understood and it helps both the social and financial side of the discussionsthumbup


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

I totally agree with all you have said. I find it embarrassing as well to find myself also being abusive back and will also usually retract myself.


myLot reputation of 82/100. starsailover (890)   ranked 3,193 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Hi: I agree with you too. We don't get anything when we return the abuse. It's better to ignore these people that i think are only a few persons. It would be perfect a world where everybody could understand each other. Unfortunetly (or fortunetly depending of the point of view) we all are different and we must make our best efforts to try to understand each other. Thanks for your answer.


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Starsailover, I think there are only a handful of people here who could be classified as "rude" and "abusive" but most of the time these people get banned, or at the very least reported. I think that it would be a much better world if everyone understood one another, but then again what's the fun in that too? lol.


myLot reputation of 94/100. purplealabaster (760)   ranked 186 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

You are really good at clarifying things and giving good pointers, Mike. You are also really helpful when it comes to finding links to things that we knew we had seen but couldn't locate again. thumbup

SomeCowgirl, I agree that there are only a few people on here that are rude and abusive, which is good. Unfortunately, I think that there are others that undermine our efforts without ever confronting us and giving us the opportunity to clear up any disagreements or misunderstands. These are generally the trolls, and they pop up every now and then. thumbdown The great people on this site far outweigh the negative ones, though. thumbup


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2778)   ranked 541 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Thankshappy

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7. myLot reputation of 82/100. starsailover (890)   ranked 3,193 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

Hi some cow girl: thanks for open this discussion. It seems that you're a very tolerant person and that's nice. As you mention there's a lot of reasons why we can commit mistakes and be misunderstood. When i notice i was misunderstood i always try to explain what i wanted to say and i else try to be as helpful i can be with newbies. In fact Mylot is place to talk not to fight and i think that's what almost everybody thinks. Have a nice day


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

I wasn't always tolerant and I suspect there will be times I won't be as well. There are some hardheaded people here that though you try to help them they don't try to help themselves either. English as a second language I can only assume to be hard. I am glad you try to explain to the best of your knowledge, and yes I do believe everyone thinks the same in that mylot is a place of fun and not of fight!

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. rjvb26 (394)   ranked 456 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

Yow! The TOPIC is Hot! Very HOT! Take it easy, anyway this is a good topic cause it happens to all of us more often, but of course before posting or responding to someones topic, we have to make it sure that we choose the words that we will use or will throw to that certain topic. If we cannot give any good response or cannot control ourselves to throw words that will hurt or offend the person who posted the topic, better not to respond, better just ignore the topic even if it caught your attention. We have to be sensitive sometimes to lessen the probability of committing mistakes and hurts someones feelings new or old it is a must for us to understand how things should be done. IF we think that the question is irrelevant why bother answering it? If we think the topic is a little not so good for our feelings, why answer it? It's better to skip than to hurt someone. Anyway we have freedom so we can do whatever we want or whatever we say it is our own right and we should practice but, but we have to think also that we need to be sensitive enough cause if it will happen to us we will also feel hurt. But.. we also need to accept feedback and criticism since this site is build for it, but of course a very nice criticism. A very nice feedback, and you know if you want to tell something negative choose the best negative word that fits. And by the way help those person whose language is not ENGLISH? Is this site for good or native English speakers only? It's being a little R_c__t i think. Anyway What important here is that even if the ENGLISH of the person is not perfect nor even if ENGLISH is not his/her main language, we need to understand the thought of their responses, it's the thought that counts not the language and the grammar we just need to be more understanding so there will be no misunderstandings.


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

Friend, I believe you've misunderstood me.

This topic is hot? Well only if it's on the "hot topics" tab. No, I was not meaning for myself to come off at all ill or angry at mylot as a whole or any of it's members. In fact, this discussion was about responses, comments or even discussions that are confusing and the way you handle them. I think you've gotten a little confused by the discussion as what I meant to ask really by this discussion is how do you handle a misunderstood response, comment or discussion either misunderstood by yourself or by your responder or commenter?

I hope this clarifies things!


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2778)   ranked 541 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

I don't think this site is racist at all.

It is a US site and their language is English and the admins here are English speakers so they say we can only use English here.

It isn't discriminating against any race as anyone can be a member from any country as long as they can communicate in English.

I agree with your last points about helping members who may be less proficient in English than we are.

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9. myLot reputation of 94/100. gabs8513 (19400)   ranked 599 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

It happens and what I do is ask the Person to clafify what they meant
If I am the one that has confused someone and they approach me about it or I get a response where you can see that you have confused someone I will go and apologize and explain it again properly


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

I do the same! I say something along the lines of "I am sorry but I think I may have confused you" and then I'll explain what I meant, usually asking "Did I clarify that up for you?" and if I have or haven't, or maybe even if I misunderstood them, either way it's great to be able to clarify things or get clarified!

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10. myLot reputation of 88/100. notlistening2 (10669)   ranked 4,467 out of 19,152 in questions & answers   4 weeks ago

When I come across a newbie, I try to explain to them how this web site works, and then if they don't get it, I just leave it a long, and go and find anther discussion to answer, because honestly it can give you a real headache, trying to explain the same thing over and over again. happythumbup


myLot reputation of 99/100. SomeCowgirl (8063)   ranked 17 out of 19,152 in questions & answers  4 weeks ago

It can be a real pain in the butt, especially when you feel they are just not "understanding" because they don't want to, or they don't want to follow the rules. In most cases it's their loss anyway as mylot is a great site once you know how to work it!

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