Should we allow people to publicly celebrate and encourage attacks against us?

@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
November 20, 2009 7:35pm CST
I recently saw this disgusting video with people celebrating the Fort Hood shooter and encouraging such behavior. This not only disgusted me, but made me wonder if it is in fact criminal. Frankly, it sounds like sedition to me. Do you think this should be allowed? Does free speech allow people to celebrate attacks on our nation and encourage more? I wonder how many on the left will think the man in this video is a fine candidate for senator, as we now have a senator who made jokes about helping al Quaeda assassinate the president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsIwC0nm11Y : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsIwC0nm11Y
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 09
I am torn on this because it's dangerous to start putting restrictions on free speech. The man in the video clearly states that it is the intention of terrorists, and muslim radicals to bring terrorism to America. He states it is their intention to bring the war to America. He advocates this violence and calls the shooting at Ft Hood what it was - a planned act of terrorism to frighten America, to strike fear into the heart of Islam's enemies, namely us. I am not sure if there are laws regarding direct threats or indirect threats to military personnel, but this definitely was one. The most important thing about this video that people must learn is that Hasan's s act is seen by these people as a righteous and justified act in response to a war on their people. Nevermind that Hasan was an American citizen, born and raised here and a member of the military, having sworn to defend the country against all enemies. This is still a lawful act per the man speaking. This is what Americans don't understand. The man in the video derided Obama's attempts to call this anything but terrorism. While the media pundits of the left strive to find excuses for this outrageous and cowardly act, trying to label it anything but terrorism, these people laugh at their naivete and say "it's terrorism, stupid". Maybe more Americans need to hear this rather than trying to stop them from speaking out. Americans need to understand that this isn't about being politically correct or nice enough. This is war. This won't stop, because the destruction of America is their aim. They don't want to be understood or appeased. They want blood. The fellow in the video said so.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
21 Nov 09
Hi Task I do not know the Laws but someone like this is disgusting we are talking about Murder here and this Person encourages it well I personally think he should be locked up with the Person who committed the crime, this is so bad Freedom of Speech???? Sorry this is going over the top and disgusting, that someone thinks it is right to take innocent Lifes
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• United States
21 Nov 09
There are limitations on FREE SPEECH. Expressly and specifically, the overthrow of the government by violent means is NOT ALLOWED and is AGAINST THE LAW. Similary, speech intended to encourage others to commit crimes is NOT ALLOWED and is AGAINST THE LAW. What we need are more officials willing to enforce the laws against advocating violence.
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• United States
21 Nov 09
I do not know what laws could stop this kind of thing without infringing on our freedom of speech rights. Do these type of public gathering not require some kind of a permit which could be denied? IMO they are just inciting more terrorism in the USA. Somehow I think that if they just arrested these people that would only add more fuel to their cause.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Permits and such are a local issue rather than federal. I agree that they're inciting more terrorism and that in my opinion is where this potentially becomes a federal crime.
• United States
26 Nov 09
I dont believe wecan make their celebrating illegal ifg it happened on US soil. Of course if they were celebrating in another country tyhere is very little we can do about it. Burt if they celebrated in this country hey should be ostrasized and quarantined. No American n their right mind can believe the Fort Hood shooter was a good thing and anyone who does should be quarantined and put on watch and have their job questioned.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I agree with several of the responses already posted. Just as your right to free speech does not permit you to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, it also does not permit you to incite others to commit violent acts. IMO, it is criminal.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Nov 09
I watched the video but I couldn't hear anything that was being said but I'll certainly take our word for it that it was disgusting! I have to wonder if it's criminal as well. Nobody wants to even remotely imply that anyone should lose their right to free speech but I feel there should be exceptions, such as yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Obviously, that's because it could put people in danger. See ing idiots like these in action can ALSO put people in danger. There are too many examples these days of people pushing the envelope as far as they can without blatantly inciting violence or using hate-speech. I suppose it's one of the consequences we pay by having a free society; most of us realize that with rights come responsibilities but unfortunately there are those who do not, or simply don't care. Annie
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Nov 09
There is a fine line between sedition and exercising freedom of speech.