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myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion 3 years ago

The famous French actress Brigitte Bardot(spelling may be wrong) recently appealed the Nepalese Government to stop sacrificing millions of animals before their Goddess.Most of the Nepalese are Hindu.During Haj pilgrimage and Eid ul Azha festival Muslims sacrifice millions of animals(cows,lambs,goats,camels etc.).
In Islam it is said once God asked Hazrat Ibrahim(Abraham)to sacrifice his most beloved one. He thought his son is the most beloved to him and he decided to sacrifice his only son in the name of God. When he was about to sacrifice his son God prevented him to do so.God was satisfied seeing his faith on Him. Then the God ordered Ibrahim to sacrifice a sheep. Remembering this event in every year during Eid ul Azha Muslims sacrifice millions and millions of animals. To my opinion in the name of religion both the Hindus and the Muslims brutally slaughter (which is called sacrifice) millions and millions helpless animals. I must say this is the misinterpretation of Religion. This is brutality.

 

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tags:  religion, sacrifice, animal welfare, animals, barbaric
 
1. myLot reputation of 85/100. reeyan (934)   3 years ago

Hi bhanusb


Simple one line answer I want to place here. If people has not killed animal for food then the sacrifice may be considered as brutality. But thousand of animal killed daily and hanging on the street it sells. So ie not it like a utter in madness to say something against sacrifice?

All these they do for their publicity. First try to change the habit of people to eat meat than we should say something against the religious thought. Otherwise all these like the sought in a deserted field.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi reeyan, why do you say it sacrifice? You say it slaughtering. One can sacrifice himself or herself for the great cause,like for the struggle of independence. For eating meats killing of animals can't be called sacrifice.Sometimes religion makes a person blind.


myLot reputation of 85/100. reeyan (934)  3 years ago

My simple question on the habit of the people ...

Can people leave the habit to eat meat. All those are just the process to eat. In the name sacrifice people eat the meat of the animal. I am not passionate to any religious thought. Even not a believer of god. But people eat animal so animal is killed. No other reason for this. Do you deny it?

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. savypat (13317)   ranked 84 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Causing pain to any life form cannot be God's intention, but these discussions are never one sided. I am sure that many make their living raising animals for such sacrificing, if you do away with that market how will they survive? People that request such changes are thinking of the animals not the eccomic shock such things cause humans. I know this doesn't make it right but it is a fact of life at present.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi savypat, I agree with you. But I'm concerned with the word 'sacrifice'. Killing and sacrifice does not carry same meaning. To make sacrifice is for the great cause. In the name of religion sacrificing or killings of animals are sin.

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3. myLot reputation of 88/100. Robyn28 (230)   ranked 6,312 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

I agree with you there. It's brutal the things some will do because it's part of the belief or they think it is. I watched a show on I think it was the priesthood or something no idea ,but they punished themselves for their sins it was like they tortured them selves they were leaving lashes well more then that on themselves and they did it every night. I think when it comes to hurting yourself and others they should be a line I don't think the point is to hurt yourself or scarifice someone in the name of religion. I think it's sad I agree with you how far some will go? You ever seen Carrie I know that's a bad example ,but it sort of is one the mother thought Carrie was evil because of her gifts and so forth so she tried to kill Carrie ,but in the end though Carrie protected herself and the mother ended up dead. I don't think it was any better. I might have some spelling mistakes oh well I'm not writing an essay for school.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Thanks Robyn. You have echoed my sentiment. Sometimes blind belief makes blind. When some one becomes blind that person losses the ability of free thinking.Please install 'Babylon'. You will get rid of spelling mistakes.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 466 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Maybe Ms Brigitte Bardot should find out more about these sacrifices before she protests. It is my understanding that the animals that are sacrificed are eaten at this time but they are also given to family,neighbors and the poor. o me that is no different than the animals we here in America consume for our thanksgiving day feast, or the animals that are slaughtered daily and sold for consumption.
Many animals were sacrificed in the Old Testament times for the forgiveness of sins. Those animals were also consumed. I'm sure that the animals were killed as humanly as possible.
By the way bhanusb do you eat meat of any kind?


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Yes deebomb I eat meat. But I have an objection with the word 'sacrifice'. Sacrifice and slaughtering is not the same thing. Someone sacrifice himself or herself for any great cause. Killing of an animal can't be called sacrifice. Killing is always an inhuman act.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. vandana7 (6670)   ranked 21 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Yeah, I completely agree with you. I once had a lamb rush to me, as if requesting me to save it. I think it is barbaric to kill another life. I can understand if it is to quell hunger though I wouldnt be happy doing that, but that is nature. However, nowhere in nature do we find lions sacrificing any lions, or monkeys sacrificing monkeys, or any animal sacrificing another animal. Only man has advanced to that level of barbaric activity. Shame.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (6097)  3 years ago

hear hear!! Good point indeed. Man is a social animal, as are the apes, and the result .. MAN should become a race with social morals and standards and all with a high level of conscience.. I have seen too much to know it isn't happening in MY life time... too much going on for the wrong reasons and blindly.. sigh.. I can only hope but not blindly ignore what I see and hear.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

vandana,you have realized my sentiment. Humans are saints and at the same time devils.When a person can control his or her devil spirit that person becomes true human.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi fjaril,thanks for your comments.

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6. myLot reputation of 24/100. mains50 (178)   ranked 5,890 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

first of all are u a muslim? this ritual has been going around from prophet Mohammad time, not just made up out of nowhere.

Do u know even know how muslim slay a animal according to islamic law?


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

I'm not a Muslim. I know the history of Islam and the rituals. My neighbors are Muslims. I have many Muslim friends.They slain an animal in a very cruel form. Love and cruelty vary from person to person. This is a matter of outlook.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. Stiletto (3189)   3 years ago

I don't object to the animals being slaughtered if it's done humanely and they are then being eaten, but I do object to fully conscious animals having their throat cuts and left to bleed to death. Here in the UK the law states that animals should be stunned before slaughter but religious groups are exempt from this. Personally I think that's wrong. The law should apply to everyone no matter what religion they are.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Yes I agree with you. The law should be applied for everyone. Religion must not be considered in this matter.Relaxation of law may create extremism.

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8. myLot reputation of 49/100. efc872 (613)   ranked 2,898 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Hi bhanusb, have you any idea what happen to the sacrifice after it is offered?


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Nothing happened. It is superstition.

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9. myLot reputation of 79/100. shobhan51 (213)   ranked 722 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Bhanusb, as far as I know, Hindus do not slaughter animals as sacrifice in Hindu temples. Practising Hindus in many parts of the world do not eat beef but I read that the Nepalese who are Hindus, slaughtered buffalos. I have also come across Hindus who slaughter goats and chickens in Kali temples as sacrifice. Well, there can be some explanation behind these sacrifices. I am no authority in religious practises, and I do not wish to raise objection of any form on religious beliefs. But, I would like to know if the slaughtered animals are wasted or eaten after the prayers. If the animals are slaughtered and wasted, then it is sin.


myLot reputation of 24/100. mains50 (178)   ranked 5,890 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

in islam they are eaten after prayer


myLot reputation of 79/100. shobhan51 (213)   ranked 722 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Mains50, thank you for your info. I really appreciate it. Have a nice day!!


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi shobhan, when Hindus slaughter animals before their god or goddess they say it "Balidan". Balidan means sacrifice. In Arabic it's called "Korban". Same meaning. May be slaughtered animals are eaten. But in only one festival to slaughter millions of animals are not brutality? If somebody wants to sacrifice that person should sacrifice himself or herself. Humans are not blind. They are rational. They should judge everything rationally.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi shobhan, when Hindus slaughter animals before their god or goddess they say it "Balidan". Balidan means sacrifice. In Arabic it's called "Korban". Same meaning. May be slaughtered animals are eaten. But in only one festival to slaughter millions of animals are not brutality? If somebody wants to sacrifice that person should sacrifice himself or herself. Humans are not blind. They are rational. They should judge everything rationally.

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10. gazza555 (31)   ranked 5,833 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

The animal does not know if it is being slaughtered for food or religion, all it knows is that it is being killed. In my country (England), it is very easy to live without eating animals, in other countries the situation might be different. Animal flesh is not required for a healthy life if you have access to grains, beans/peas and vegetables. The story mentioned (where we get the phrase "the lord shall provide"), is common to the the Koran, The bible and the torah. The message imparted is that we should always obey god no matter how crazy it seems. There is no reason why the event should be commemorated by killing more animals.

The only religion that I follow is my own path (and I dont eat meat BTW). People need to have more balls and question things rather than just follow some tradition or living in fear (most religions are based on fear, have a think about that).

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myLot reputation of 79/100. shobhan51 (213)   ranked 722 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Gazza555, With due respect to your belief of vegetarianism, I wish to state without malice, that one should respect another's view of life and living. Religious beliefs are deeply entrenched from childhood in many and it takes a long time for one to relearn new doctrines or accept new ideas. Apart from that, one should accept concept and ideas without enforcement of external pressure. This is the true approach to realisation. Being a Hindu, the majority of whom are vegetarians, the idea of vegetarianism is entrenched from childhood and many of us accept the doctrine without question. But for many who practise Christianity, Islam, Confucianism etc.... this concept has not been defined spiritually through religion. So we cannot blame those who slaughter animals as sacrifice. I say once again, that the animal slaughtered as ritualistic sacrifice should be not wasted.
There are hunters who kill animal for game, remove certain parts as exhibits and leave the remaining to rot and go to waste. There are yet others who skin animals for leather and leave the rest to waste. Yet, there are still others who kill animals for pleasure. To this they have to answer to the CREATOR


gazza555 (31)   ranked 5,833 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Thanks shobhan51, very good response. You make some very important points.


myLot reputation of 79/100. shobhan51 (213)   ranked 722 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

You are welcome, gazza555.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhanusb (2788)   ranked 814 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

In our country specially in Indian sub-continent it is very easy to live without eating flash of animals. My point is not to eat meat. To sacrifice or slaughtering of animals in the name of God or religion is what extant justified. The Hindus in Kali puja and the Muslims in Eid ul Adha slaughter millions of animals in a single day. Is God(goddess) thirsty of blood! This is really brutality.

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