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myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics 2 years ago

I was listening to CNBC this morning and they were interviewing him, and attacking him on his economic ideas, and his theory of ending the Fed, and the IRS. I have also heard right wing hate radio attack him for his ability to win polls, but not primaries. I also heard the audio from Ron Paul's victory at the CPAC conference, and there were a lot of boos. Why do you think that the right wants to attack someone who represents more of their platform than their mainstream candidates?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 85/100. rogue13xmen13 (10463)   ranked 803 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I don't know why people attack him either because he is actually the one Republican that I would have voted for in the Primaries had I been part of the Republican party.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I feel the same way, I am sure part of it is that they are afraid that he will change the way it is in Washington, and those with automatic reelection districts could actually have to work for once.


myLot reputation of 85/100. rogue13xmen13 (10463)   ranked 803 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I, personally, don't think he could be any worse the George W. Bush was.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

LOL, that surely isn't say much! My dog would make a better president than Bush


myLot reputation of 85/100. rogue13xmen13 (10463)   ranked 803 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

He was a doctor and he was in the U.S. House of Representatives. What's not to like?


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

Rogue, I was talking about Bush


myLot reputation of 85/100. rogue13xmen13 (10463)   ranked 803 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I thought we were talking about Ron Paul and how great he is?


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I like him, I just wonder what he will do in the future


myLot reputation of 85/100. rogue13xmen13 (10463)   ranked 803 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

He could run again.

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2. myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6781)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I'm pretty sure you already know the answer and you're just seeing who else says it. He's an independent thinker and that scares the hell out of people. He votes with the Republican party the vast majority of the time (over 90% the last two years), but for some that's just not good enough. They want him to be a party shill like Boehner or Coburn. I heard about the boos at CPAC and I'm wondering what he said to prompt them or if people just booed when he took the stage.

The reasons for the left attacking him are far more obvious as he simply opposes all their entitlement programs and anything that is not justified by the constitution.

You mentioned CNBC and well, the media just hates independent politicians. The media has been instrumental in silencing third party candidates. THEY are the ones who make sure people like Ralph Nader and Bob Barr don't get to debate Barrack Obama or John McCain. Few people knew that when McCain "suspended" his campaign Bob Barr asked to debate Obama. He never even got a response. They just said if McCain didn't show Obama was going to have an open forum to make a speech.

The last time the media allowed 3rd candidate in a debate was in 1992 and only because George H.W. Bush insisted that Perot be able to participate. In 1996 when Perot ran again they refused to allow him in the debates and made up some B.S. rules that he had to poll at x% to be included.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

The boos actually came before Paul took the stage, and shocked the person giving the announcement. The results were shown on the screen first and the person was about to announce the winner and there were many boos heard. I am sure you can find it on Youtube.

I personally (and I could be wrong) haven't heard many people "bash" Paul on the left, we don't like his abortion stance, but other than that he doesn't seam to be a bad guy. For a guy that votes 90% with a party that treats him like $hit, I wonder why he continues to even deal with these idiots.

The best thing I can tell all of you to do with your life is watch CNBC for one hour, and you will understand that it isn't left wing media (and I know this isn't what you are saying, but this channel is made up of far right wingers). I understand what you are saying about the media's agenda on a hole, and it makes you really wonder about the NWO people (maybe they are crazy, or maybe they have just figured it out). I can understand Nader, he is pretty crazy now a days, but Bob Barr is a pretty straight forward kind of guy.

You can understand why the GOP doesn't want a third party candidate after 1992.
I agree that we need more options in our elections, but I hate to say that it is going to have to start at the local level, instead of the national level. The tea party movement might be able to help organize sympathetic voters to candidates, but it will take them decades to build what has taken centuries for the other parties to.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7620)   ranked 42 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

" and it makes you really wonder about the NWO people (maybe they are crazy, or maybe they have just figured it out)."
I tell ya Debater...I spend a lot of time at prison planets forum....and there is a lot of wack job stuff ....but I have found the tin foil hat crowd a lot more informative and truthfull lately than main stream news when you learn to sort through the garbage there. Thank god for the tin foil hatties, seriously, I mean that.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

X, the problem with believing what they say is you then have to change everything you know about your own world. The question then is: Do you want to do that?


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7620)   ranked 42 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

"The question then is: Do you want to do that? "
The question is more, "Do we need to?"....I am beginning to wonder...I really am. In the words of Einstien, "The more I learn, the more I am astounded by my own ignorance".


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

X, it becomes a sanity issue. If what you learn will drive you crazy, then do you really want to know? I am not saying this is right or wrong, I am just saying that I have pointed things out to you that make me and you upset, but there is nothing we can do about it. So, do you continue to drive yourself crazy with no solution in sight, or do you just live in your own little dream world and be happy. There is no right or wrong answer here, it is all about your own personal sanity level. We are all lemmings on a certain level.

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3. myLot reputation of 63/100. Latrivia (1976)   ranked 226 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

Because the "right" is infiltrated with neo-conservatives who tend to only be conservative when it comes to social issues. A fiscal conservative wouldn't be seen in favorable light amongst them - thus why talking heads like O'Reilly seemed to hate his guts during the '08 presidential election.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I agree that the Bush years were filled with anything but fiscal conservatives. The problem is getting new candidates to run for office, if CPAC is any sign of the future than get ready for the social conservative, fiscal liberal republicans to take back control of the government. Not good at all for America!

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4. myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7620)   ranked 42 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

Simple, because he is a direct and relevent threat to the established system that has gained them far too much comfort as elected officials. Everything Paul stands for would tear down the bohemouth power structure that gives them all power and seeming imunity they now enjoy.
Bottom line, Ron Paul is a genuine public servant rather than an elected ruler, they all want to remain elected rulers.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I would have to agree with you on this, but how long will it take Ron to see the light? This man is far more intelligent than the party that he votes with, and they repay him for his support by treating him like a red headed step-child. He needs to move this movement forward, and he is the only national figure with the ability to do it. I hear his son is running for office, and in early polls he is winning. Maybe he can recruit his son to carry the torch of the movement, and lead it into the future.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7620)   ranked 42 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

Rand is not quite as savey as his old man but he still shows a great deal of promise and seems to cut from the same libertarian cloth. I have high hopes for him so far and I think he would make a great addition to congress. He is doing extremely well in the polls and it looks as if he is almost a shoe in for a win.
I do wish Ron had run as an indepandant after he lost the primaries. He may not have stood a chance as I don't know how many Obama supporters he would have been able to bring to his side, the momentum was just too great and everyone was so caught up in Obama-mania I don't think he could have gotten many. But it would have set him up for this one as he could have done a lot of the "you watch and see what happens if they do this" kind of thing. I think the next election may be a very different story. He should start now and just do what he does best, point out truth and remind people that he has been right so far on everything he said would come to pass. The man is a veritable sage and I think he and his supporters should expolit that aspect of him. They should also focus on the guys genuine honesty and experience.

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5. myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11666)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

When I consider that Ron Paul was the only one in the GOP Presidential debates who didn't scare the crap out of me, I realize it's not so surprising he's getting it from both sides! He doesn't follow the party line in lock-step with the GOP leadership. He clearly has a mind of his own and he's not afraid to speak it. That's such a rarity in politics today, is it any wonder those in power don't like him?

Annie

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6. myLot reputation of 79/100. LilPixelle (688)   ranked 615 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I actually see that he has more support behind him from independents and constitutionalists (as well as a couple other odd job parties) Than from his own party... go figure O.o


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

The sad part is that he is voting with the same people that bash him every chance they get. I sure wouldn't put up with that very long.

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7. myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

He is attacked because he is not for sale with lobbyists. He does not follow the "party" on EVERYTHING.He is not controllable by the "party". He is a free thinker...they don't like that. He is a threat to their status quo system of how things are done in washington. He would clean it up and get rid of their free ride and corruption. They don't want anyone in politics is not in lock step with them. Ron Paul calls them out on their BS and they HATE that.
He has great ideas. He is very smart. Which makes him even more of a threat.


myLot reputation of 57/100. thegreatdebater (1834)   ranked 333 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

Lil, so what you are saying is that he really doesn't belong in the republican party, but he is there so his voice can still be heard. I agree with you that the movement may be better with Ron forcing the republican party to at least keep him happy so he doesn't completely destroy the republican party. I guess you could say that what he is doing now is good for him, and for the republican party. This allows him to get his ideas out in a public, and allows the party to get votes from his followers that might go to another candidate.


myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

He is a republican....a real republican before NECONS took over. He is a Republican that is not just paying lip service but actually means what he says. He is what all of our elected officials should be. ANd I don't mean his views on things. I mean his honesty and ethics.Althought I really like most of hsi views. We could use more poeple like him in both parties. Get rid of the parasites. The parasites hate him because he makes them look bad. Show me a politican that hates Ron Paul...I will show you a blood sucking, crooked, corrupt politican.

As for the party....I don't know how much Ron Paul helps the Republican party. I know I voted for him in the last election. But that does not mean I voted for other republicans. I don't vote a straight ticket. I don't support any candidate because of the (R) or (D) beside their names. I support candidates...not parties.

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