Mexico WARNS of Retaliation for New Arizona Law  

i would guess you are talking about a tiny minority there laglen.

"Tiny" is relative. So any guess is a good one, especially from atop the hill looking into the trenches.

Are you talking about the Earth compared to Jupiter, or perhaps thousands upon thousands compared to millions? Or is that the same thing, with the Earth still being pretty f'n big in its own right?


But, that's the whole "social justice" mindset at work, I guess. Since they're non-white and downtrodden, tears should be shed instead of upholding the law - any law! Poor, poor victims.

Until a few years ago, it gave me great pleasure to say, "At least these touchy-feely, law-is-selective schnooks aren't in control in America."

hello fishy. i would still guess that most immigrants are not thieving drug dealing etcs.

You've been on about the numbers before as if they mean something that the rest of us are missing.

What does the fact that most illegal immigrants aren't harsh criminals have to do with anything in the context of ILLEGAL immigration reform?

You do know, I'm sure, that being here illegally is ILLEGAL.

Oh, it's not worth getting into a back-and-forth with a bleeding heart over the issue. No offense. But I know the drill. It's about feeling sorry for people instead of enforcing law for the good of Americans.

Maybe you can volunteer to house some of the downtodden? Do your part and all that.

Be a citizen of the world, JB. What are you waiting for!? We're all the same.

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It should read 207,000 which is compatible with City of Wolverhampton, Population 251,462
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what numbers little fish? first mention of numbers comes out in whiteheather's comment.

but i can certainly play. let's pick another group instead of immigrants. americans will do. now what percentage of americans are drug dealing murdering wotsits? it won't be a high percentage, MOST americans are NOT drug dealing murdering wotsits. it will, however, be a big number.

so saying that a tiny percentage of americans are murdering drug dealing wotsits is true. a tiny percentage of a large number might look large but it does not mean that most americans are drug dealing murdering wotsits. my statement about immigrant was true too.

there ARE good arguments against ILLEGAL immigration but saying immigrants are drug dealing murdering wotsits is NOT one of them.

case closed. and i am hopping off because i suspect the names are going to start in a minute. feel free to play numbers.

What numbers? Over the course of your myLot posting on this topic, you always manage to mention the fact that most illegal immigrants aren't "criminals" (I realize the context and won't quibble over the fact they are technically criminals).

It's as if you're trying to imply all of America runs around tagging every immigrant with a rapist label or something.

So, I'm asking -- what are we missing that you pound that drum?

Everyone else is quick to tell you what they believe you're missing.

No one is saying that most or even all illegal immigrants are drug dealers and rapists and kidnappers and the like. Where do you see that?

If people do say that all illegal immigrants are criminals... well, wake up and smell the coffee. They're not blasting them. They're speaking the truth by stating a fact that it is a crime to be in this country illegally. Hence the term "illegal immigrant."

There's no argument here. None at all. Close the case all you'd like. First you would need an open case - gray areas in the law where crime is not crime. Unfortunately, that's not how America is set up to work. It is how bleeding hearts and folks who think all immigrants are victims want it to work. But that's ideology and is not our country's law.

Another unfortunate thing is that having such an attitude is why states like Arizona are in bad shape now. If politicians could have shown some balls years ago and risked offending touchy Latinos and facing the wrath of the race baiters, they would have controlled the borders and set up more access for people to legally enter into the country. This would have drastically reduced the bad element.

Instead, they decided to play it politically safe, ignore the problem, and paint everyone attempting to handle it as the bad guy.

That bullsht is great for getting minorities to vote for you. You can play the hero and call everyone else racist and oppressive and violent. But it leads to exactly what we have today: politicians making hundreds of thousands of dollars, far removed from average American life, waving their "no-no" finger at people who are fed up with hardcore criminals crossing over as free as they please and wreaking havoc on the country by way of violence and increased spending to care for them.

No need to call anyone names. You just don't see the problem for what it is at all. To you, it seems more important not to mislabel someone than to actually eliminate the problem.

When politically correct society actually becomes safer than common sense society, I'll ride your wagon.

If I told you to get a clue, would that be considered one of those "meany" names?

what numbers in this discussion was the question. saying that illegal immigrants are criminals is indeed true, they are breaking an immigration law. saying that immigrants (illegal or legal) are drug dealers etc is not except for a very few. i tried to explain it by using a different group but never mind. i am not going to quote what i was actually responding to because a) you can see it and b) laglen is not here to explain what she meant. incidentally have you considered the fact that everybody is being distracted from what looks like some fairly major events in your country by getting all upset about this?

oh and yes, telling me to get a clue is being mean. very mean. in fact it is nearly as hurtful as the time i got called 'mr smartypants'. that made me cry.*






*this part may not be entirelytrue

jb, when you say that most illegals are not criminals, that just makes me laugh. Ok first of all, they are a criminal by being here. Then lets look at identity theft. How in the world do you think they can get jobs?
http://www.scambusters.org/identity-theft.html
About seven million illegal immigrants are currently using stolen SSNs and paying Social Security taxes.

We disagree on your meaning of "tiny" and "few."

Percentage-wise, it is truly pointless to go round and round on it. Common sense suggests most people are not violent offenders, regardless of which country they come from.

Numbers-wise, we're talking up in the tens of thousands at a minimum. And I'm not even including Whiteheather's jail numbers.

But I still haven't seen people saying all illegal immigrants are drug dealers. Maybe you've caught a kennyrose post or something. I don't know.

And since I am not upset about this, I'm not distracted from anything. The people who would be distracted by this, like Sharpton's "freedom walkers," don't do anything but wait around for these types of things to happen anyway.

"About seven million illegal immigrants are currently using stolen SSNs and paying Social Security taxes."

Laglen, I'm not sure that's a "crime" in the bleeding heart world. I could be wrong, but I think they all share the Associated Press' view of the situation: "AZ makes it a crime to be an illegal immigrant"

http://abclocal.go.com/kt...

I don't have enough LMAO on my keyboard to get that headline out of my system.

Its sad to to people to talk like this about other human beings regardless of their ethicity. Do you not realize that this nation was built on the back of immigrants. Who came here and stole from the natives and now their desendent have the right to choose whose worth staying and who has to go. Know you history, Arizona was owned by Mexico. and a majority of immigrants, just like all others are here for a better life not to become criminals. These are hard working individuals just trying to maintain. And what about the other border, because their caucasian they're not included in this bill, and I personal feel this is racial profiling. you can't tell by looking at a hispanic person if they are legal or not. We're are just moving back in time from the progess we have made. And before you comment, Yes I am Mexican and proud to be. And yes I am legal.

I know what your saying matersfish but what bout the victims of identity theft?
Thomad - Really? That argument again?

What argument is that? Are you too ignorant to realize the truth?

The evil white man argument is about as nonsensical as they come. Unless we're all Highlanders with Sean Connery accents and medieval birth dates, holding today's citizens responsible for the past is infinitely more racially tinged and is far closer to profiling than anything taking place today.

Talk about going backwards...

Thomad, I am not ignorant and I know the truth. When did this happen? how relevant is it today? The only relevance is to not repeat history. We CANNOT go back in time, how about lets grow up and move on and worry about what is happening today. EVERY culture has been held down at one time or another. Let it go. Absolutely NOTHING can be solved/accomplished bytching about it today.

How is this not repeating history. If you look a certain way you'r going to be harrassed for no apparent reason. What does that sound like? Sounds like the civil rights movements will be start back up again.

laglen - reread what i said before you start laughing

saying that illegal immigrants are criminals is indeed true, they are breaking an immigration law. saying that immigrants (illegal or legal) are drug dealers etc is not except for a very few

you started off commenting about immigrants in general by the way.

mr fish - i was replying briefly to a comment of laglen's that i actually think was typed too quickly 'so true, like identity theft, drug dealing, dui, murder... ' i do not think you or laglen or the op are anything like the person you referred to. who i think is busy starting some discussions exactly like that.

thomad - i can see this argument is getting heated but calling others 'ignorant' does not help your argument any. and i agree with some of your points.

jb - I reread and you are right, it is not fair to generalize, but the point I was trying to make, that I goofed up, was that by being here they are breaking the law, and then they turn to things such as identity theft to continue here. This brings whole new issues to the table. You are also right that I commented on immigrants in general, and that was NOT my intention. I meant to refer to ILLEGAL immigrants. Thank you for pointing that out.

What does that sound like? Sounds like the civil rights movements will be start back up again
Thomad - I have to apologize, I did NOT mean immigrants in general. JB pointed this out and I went back and reread. I meant to only refer to illegal immigrants. I have no issue with immigration, The majority of the country is made of immigrants. Regarding the law, this is just what the current Federal law is but now it will be enforced.


Whew.... I hate it when I have to correct myself.....

At least you were able to say you were wrong. Alot of people can't do that. Thanks for that.

yes, that was nice laglen and i didn't think you meant what the first remark looked like anyway.

I think it important to admit when your wrong, otherwise all credibility is lost. I am human and I make LOTS of mistakes!

At worst, it wasn't phrased precisely and was perhaps in poor taste. Even still, there's no way to interpret the context as saying ALL immigrants contribute such things unless you're looking for it to say that so you can stretch your pointer finger.

Kudos for the correction. I would have quibbled to the bitter end over the fact that interpretation of tenebrous text is opinion and isn't grounds to imply someone is a racist.

But that's because I'm cooler than ice trays.

you'd nitpick until you defrosted. incidentally guppies really should not live in the freezer - they are tropical fish and this is not healthy.

matersfish - you ARE cooler than ice trays! See admitting I was wrong (because it did say immigrants) then the beasts are held at bay! whew!

LOL! Dirty beasts (oops, that's racist!)

But seriously, replace the response with a kinder issue and watch the difference.

Original: "He also criticized the governor of Arizona for not valuing the contributions of immigrants to the economy, society and culture of Arizona and the United States

so true, like identity theft, drug dealing, dui, murder..."

Alternate: Bud Selig criticized a sportswriter at the AP for not valuing the contributions of Major League Baseball players to the economy, society and culture of youth sports in the United States.

So true, like steroids, infidelity, drunk driving, greed, spousal abuse...


Now, who would take that to think the text meant EVERY baseball player is a steroid-poppin', wife-beating boozer?

But keep holding them at bay. I'm going to go down swingin'!

Major punnage there with a baseball reference. Woot!

hi frozen fishy. hey does that mean you are a fish finger? i'll bring some ketchup next time. neither of you has any chance of keeping dangerous beasties like bunnies at bay. even with the use of puns.

I see your point and I am glad you got the gist of what Iwas saying.
JB - its wabbitt season!

no it aint. it is the fishing season


and also the season to annoy gun crazed americans. . mind you, it is always that season.

rabbit season

annoying americans season

every day is a shooting holiday! Yeehaw!

every new day is a brand new opportunity to irritate a redneck. happy days

lmao glad I could help.

I never looked at it that way before but you are right they must be really stupid not to learn English....BUT we are also not very smart because we are catering to their ignorance.... and what is even worse is that they are multiplying and breeding here for free!

How racist is that? Maybe they are just trying to hold on to their culture and heritage and choose not to learn English. Must you be punished and talked down on for that. What about all the other lanuages that are printed on forms aside from English. And if we are so stupid, why are American schools teaching our language and your race wants to learn it? Its sad that your comments about breeding are degrading humans to aminals.

It isn't your language. It's the language of Spain. You learned it from them. You apparently weren't as stupid back then but you got really stupid after that.
They teach it in American schools because you're too stupid to learn English.

Not a racist, but I'll make an exception for you.

whiteheather-I don't think they are stupid, what I think is that the United States treat them as such. I've known people who have worked hard to learn the language and insist on speaking English. If they can do it so can the others. I've seen the ones who learned and they are so proud that they can speak both languages.

they don't teach it in schools because were too stupid to learn English. Its an elective so white people choose to learn. America is a diverse nation. Its just sad that you're threatened by a minority group that have become the majority in some states. And it has nothing to do with stupidity, some choose not to learn English. And why do you think we learned this language from Spain. Because they attacked the natives here and pushed it down their throats along with the children that were pushed out the wombs of the native women being abused who became the hispanic race in this world. I have relatives from Spain so it is my language and all Mexicans that have that blood running through their veins. Do not try and tell us what we are and are not.

i thought foreign languages were taught in schools because that's a useful skill for everybody to have. even here we have it. actually we possibly have the worst language teaching in the world, i took german at school. i can now speak (well mangle) a couple of languages but german has never been one of them. hopefully standards are higher in the states.

Thomad-That was just for your benefit. I have no problems with Hispanics that come legally into the country and I have no problem with them needing help. You just automatically jumped in with the race card instead of waiting until I responded to what whiteheather had to say. Never said there weren't any Mexicans with some Spanish blood. I know a Spanish woman who grew up in Mexico. She's offended if you call her Mexican.
You have no clue at all what I think or anything about me. You just throw the race card.

My friend who has a Hispanic daughter and my own Hispanic niece would get a laugh out of you and your nonsense. Oh and my Hispanic niece speaks no Spanish, but she speaks sign language so that makes her bi-lingual.

jb-It's pretty sad here too with learning other languages. I'd like to see more languages available to learn than just Spanish and French. There are a few others but I'd like to see more. I'm trying to learn Irish and boy do I mangle that!

hopefully your teaching is better even if the choice isn't. this wasn't just one terrible teacher - it is the same throughout the uk. anyway if you are struggling with irish (which is not widely spoken) then just speak english with a really bad irish accent. hey, i once thought a group of irish tourists were american (i was a lot younger btw) because my ear for accents is so rubbish.

I have a knack for accents. Give me a few days in Ireland and I'd be sounding just like them. I went to Arkansas with a friend and came back with a perfect Arkansas twang. LOL

One of my main reasons for wanting to learn Irish is for my writing but I also love the language.

Its a racial issue when people are sitting hear calling others stupid and murderers and thieves because of where they are from. Ands it a race issue because Mexico is not the only border of Us and mexicans are not the only illegal immigrants in the US yet they're being targeted. Sounds like a race issue to me. And FYI you dont know anything about me either and I think I know a bit more about my own culture then someone who isnt one. And all hispanics get offended when you call by something they are not. Theres no point going back and forth with you, You will never get it.

I called you stupid. I know a lot of very intelligent Hispanic people. They came into the country legally and are more than happy to produce the proof if asked. My friend who I said has a Hispanic daughter-Her husband from El Salvadore sends his money there, leaves her without food or rent money, buy himself food,etc. but does not supply food for his own daughter. Lies, cheats and went years without paying taxes.
I'm afraid you are the one who doesn't get it. Exactly how many people in America were murdered at the border by illegal alien Irish? And btw illegal alien is NOT a race.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

i don;t think he is stupid irish, and neither are you. i think you are at cross purposes here.

however generalisations about a whole group (hispanics, or mexicans, or illegal mexican immigrants) from the behaviour of a few don't make any sense. i've met a nasty american. now does that mean americans are nasty? don't think so. i think it means i met one nasty american.

I agree, jb. I'm just giving him a hard time. He's the one who is assuming I'm racist against them all and think all of them are bad. Unfortunately the bad ones are the ones that get the attention. More stress should be put on those from any country who do the right thing and come into the country legally. I'd happy sponsor a person from a foreign country (yes, even Mexico) that needed help coming into the country legally. I've sat more than once with someone who was having trouble learning English and helped them.

I'd look pretty silly at family functions if I was a racist. How do you avoid your mixed relatives at such things? You can't and I wouldn't want to.

actually it might be an excellent way to avoid relatives. or get them to avoid you. . avoiding relatives is a hobby of many people. anyway the thing is you might not make ridiculous generalisations but there are people who do and this is where the mixup here started i think.

There are some relatives I avoid as much as possible. LOL

I agree, there was a mix up in understanding what I was talking about.

"i've met a nasty american. now does that mean americans are nasty? don't think so. i think it means i met one nasty american."

Lord'a'mercy! That's far too rich to eat. I get stomach craps just reading it.

But if your opinion of America has changed since last you put it on blast, I commend it and dub thee sane.

no it hasn't little fishy. i have just become slightly more tactful when discussing your horrible country. which is more than can be said for you when you are discussing my wonderful country...

The U.S. does a lot of wrong with it comes to other countries. Our government does a lot of wrong when it comes to its own people too. We tell countries to get out of places we don't think they belong and then move right on in. It isn't right no matter who is doing it. Now they are trying to force Puerto Rico's hand after Puerto Rico has voted 3 times against becoming a state.

THOMAD: It is stupid--very stupid--too "choose" not to learn the language of the country you plan even to visit, let alone live in. If I were going to Mexico, & didn't speak Spanish, I'm smart enough I'd at least take along a bi-lingual dictionary!

I do know what's called "kitchen Spanish," which I learned from illegal immigrants in my salad days as a restaurant worker, just by the way...it differs from true Spanish in that it's a pigeon tongue, & has different pronunciation than Mexican, or for that matter, Spain's Spanish.

Also, I have no objection to anyone who wants to keep their language too, but they can still learn English. Bi-lingual is better than monolingual. But you think it's okay to invade a country, not pay your fair share of taxes, & not even bother to learn the predominate language?

That is stooooopid. Supremely so! I wouldn't brag about that opinion, if I were you!

Maggiepie
"WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, WITH A CONSTITUTION, & OUR RIGHTS WERE CONVEYED TO US NOT BY THAT CONSTITUTION, MIRACULOUS DOCUMENT THOUGH IT BE, BUT BY OUR GOD. WOE TO ANY ENEMY WHO CHALLENGES THAT TRUTH!" ~ Anon

a pidgin version of a language means a simplified version, possibly mixed in with bits of another language. it is regularly spoken by and to people learning a new language. i am not quite sure what you are referring to. if these kitchen workers were from mexico then they would have spanish as a first language. pidgin spanish/english/etc are not languages - they are simply a basic way of communicating when you don't really know the language.

i agree that you should learn the language of a country you visit, at the very least basic pleasantaries and the phrases you'll need for day to day living. brits are notorious for NOT doing this and it is embarrassing.

You are so right when you say....
"That won't happen. The string-pullers in the government want amnesty for as many as possible so that they can have more votes in coming years, people loyal to them because this administration gave them citizenship without any of the dedication or work that it takes to become naturalized."

All Obama sees are millions of grateful votes if he can get the free ride to citizenship passed. This makes someone like me who did it all the hard way...legally. I was married to an American citizen, had worked for the US Government in Africa and Europe for 12 years BEFORE coming to the States but did not take or ask for any shortcuts!!

The methodology for counting unauthorized immigrants relies on a lot of assumptions which call into question the accuracy of the results. Twelve million may be the most popular number cited for illegal immigrants in the U.S at present, but some estimates, like one from Bear Stearns, believe the count is actually closer to a whopping 20 million.
http://ohmygov.com/blogs/...

oops forgot to add "This makes someone like me who did it all the hard way...legally SEE RED!.

You are correct. Soon no-one will want to immigrate to the USA because if Obama has his way we will be broke, have nothing to offer or entice immigrants as we will be no better than a Third World Country!

Actually, BOB, that's not totally so. I've been studying the trip over on the Mayflower, & it was a mix. If some were poor, it's because they used up their funds to buy passage here, & to outfit themselves with items they'd need. But there were also a wealthy family or 2, & the rest were somewhere in between.

They were all perfectly aware that it was going to be hard. Getting land would be the chief thing to do, & for that they didn't need money. Plus there was no built-up civilization with streets, stores & such. No homes to rent, food to buy, so what they spent money on were tools to chop down trees, & hammers & saws to make homes & barns & a church. They spent money for food to eat on the journey, but once they arrived, they'd bought guns in Europe, & traps, & proceeded to find food & shoot or trap it. They brought seeds to plant, & still lost most of their first crops.

But poverty was not what motivated them to come here. Especially since even a poor person where they been had nowhere nearly so many hardships!

No, what brought the settlers here at first was the freedom to kiss their old churches farewell, & worship as they pleased.

Maggiepie
"WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, WITH A CONSTITUTION, & OUR RIGHTS WERE CONVEYED TO US NOT BY THAT CONSTITUTION, MIRACULOUS DOCUMENT THOUGH IT BE, BUT BY OUR GOD. WOE TO ANY ENEMY WHO CHALLENGES THAT TRUTH!" ~ Anon

EXACTLY!!!!
Most of the illegals here are rejects that even Mexico is glad to get rid of! They would not pass the test required to get a Green Card which is necessary to legally work and stay in the USA. I know what is required as I was once a LEGAL immigrant.

"The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California's prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces."
http://archive.newsmax.co...

There certainly are a number of illegals that are undesirable, but there are many that are hard working good people. That being said, they still need to abide by the laws of this country and go through the proper channels to get their work visas. It's not only illegal to "jump the fence" but it's not fair to the people that did it correctly.

jlipke: Yes. It's not all of one OR the other. People are always complex, but it needs repeating: there's a right & a wrong way to come. Those choosing not to do it legally must go back, & start the proceedings to come here legally. And they must learn ENGLISH!

Maggiepie
"WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, WITH A CONSTITUTION, & OUR RIGHTS WERE CONVEYED TO US NOT BY THAT CONSTITUTION, MIRACULOUS DOCUMENT THOUGH IT BE, BUT BY OUR GOD. WOE TO ANY ENEMY WHO CHALLENGES THAT TRUTH!" ~ Anon

Of course, Mexico doesn't want them back. The ones who are here earning money are living on next to nothing so they can send as much money back to Mexico to friends and family as possible. Remittances of US dollars to Mexico are a huge boost to their economy.

matersfish you said "As far as Mexico goes, I don't want to hear anything out of them. They're happy to be rid of their citizens. Fewer criminals in their streets and fewer poor people to drag down the country's name as a cesspool.

Mexico doesn't want them back.

Kudos to you ...so VERY true! As far One Citizen World/One Unified World I think that is Obama's ultimate dream with himself as the Glorified Supreme Leader.

Thank you for that excellent response! Very well said.

It is equally telling that having come to this country as a LEGAL immigrant, obeyed the law, paid my taxes, all that was required as a prelude to be coming a citizen that I am disgusted by the behaviour exhibited by ILLEGAL immigrants.

TheMetallion,
The people that are driving this insanity saying Arizona police will now stop someone just because they feel like it is nothing more then vile propaganda to fuel the fire.
Our family in Waco Texas lives in a boarder town blood is spill over the boarder every day,they like 70% of the people polled in Arizona are glad to see the Governor of Arizona stand up with conviction and unmeasurable courage and protect all the people of Arizona.
In my state I can be stopped for any reason by law enforcement I do not have a problem with it,I have legal documentation as to whom I'm and a valid driver license~ ~ Rose

It'll be utterly fascinating, I'm sure to see how many illegal immigrants from Canadia and Eastern Europe they manage to identify.

there will be 6. three 20 year olds from hungary who gave themselves away by getting drunk and singing very loudly, and badly, in hungarian in a police filled bar. one man from scotland (we'll include that as 'eastern europe') who did exactly the same thing. and two pensioners from canada who asked for directions in french.

Very interesting response! I know that I am ready and await the turning point.

I wonder, if Mexico decides to openly attack our country, instead of invading it on the sly with illegals, will the US send an army to stop them? Or will there be negotiations and other political crap that hampers the efforts of Americans to defend themselves. I'm sure if troops were sent to the border, they would fight their best against the foreign invaders, and not turn on Americans. But they will probably be hampered by stupid political rules.

I think we Americans are on our own in this one. O will try to do every thing in his power to help the illegals win. I feel sorry for the military. If they are told to shoot fellow Americans will they do it or join them? This is not as far fetch as you may think. Read the so called free press and you are given the impression that most Americas are for the poor illegals. You have these idiots that are marching in protest against AZ. How long before Americans start marching for the law? I am so tired of the illegals saying we do jobs you will not do. BULL. They do jobs for $2 an hour. They take jobs away from us every day. What I am afraid of is Mexico has over three million illegals here. How long before they become violent? I think that's why we are being pushed to give up our guns. I just hope America is ready and willing to fight for our country.

Those states which want to adopt this law had better hurry; Obama has just put everything else on the back burner--officially--to get amnasty (NOT a typo...) passed. Seriously, folks--start calling Congress & get this show on the road! I'm from Texas, & I see first hand--even though I'm in Central Texas--the problems illegals are causing!

Maggiepie
"WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, WITH A CONSTITUTION, & OUR RIGHTS WERE CONVEYED TO US NOT BY THAT CONSTITUTION, MIRACULOUS DOCUMENT THOUGH IT BE, BUT BY OUR GOD. WOE TO ANY ENEMY WHO CHALLENGES THAT TRUTH!" ~ Anon

Maggiepie "amnasty" very clever . BTW I saw surprise to see that Texas is 2nd after California with 2,209.000 illegal immigrants, and Texas has 1,041,000 Georgia is 7th with 228,000.
http://www.statemaster.co...

No friggin' wonder we have unemployment problems!!

All Oba-mao sees are potential citizens who will be happy to trade votes for "anmasty"