My politically incorrect and racist metaphor, according to a friend
By EvanHunter
@EvanHunter (4026)
United States
June 11, 2010 7:44pm CST
I have often used the expression "that's the pot calling the kettle black", one of my friends pointed it out to me as being a racist statement because it implies that being black is a negative thing. Have you ever used this expression before and if so do you think of it as a racist/inappropriate statement? Is there any other expressions you can think of that seem harmless but might offend someone?
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
12 Jun 10
This is not a racist expression, but a very old one. During the time it was first used pots and pans were made of cast iron and they turned black with use. As far as other expressions, the term paddy wagon is offensive to the Irish.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
12 Jun 10
I meant to post "kettles", not "pans". That's what I get for watching tv while mylotting. :)
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
12 Jun 10
LOL, yes I know where it comes from I have iron cookware still and I actually prefer it for most things over Teflon. It still makes the best french toast IMO.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
12 Jun 10
I agree! I have an old cast iron skillet that belonged to my grandmother that weights a ton but cooks great!
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
12 Jun 10
Maybe if you explained what the phrase actually means and where it comes from, they won't see it as racist. Although some people will see the word Black and think racism, when the whole thing is actually about the color of a stove or in this case a kettle.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
12 Jun 10
Well...The thing is they already know. They got the idea from the movie Malcolm X.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
12 Jun 10
Not sure what to say to that. I guess it is easy to confuse "movie" facts with real history facts. Malcolm X is still a fictional movie.

@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
14 Jun 10
While driving to work this morning I heard a clip from Rep James Clyburn (D) SC who said he could look at a group of people and see racism in their minds. He also claimed that he was receiving racist emails, but did not produce any copies. If you are a protected class you can see racism in anything you want or in anything you disagree with. If you are a white male or a Conservative you are just plain racist.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
13 Jun 10
So than racism is only determined by the hearer and intent means nothing I guess, in their opinion.

@anniepa (27955)
• United States
12 Jun 10
Great topic! I think I recall someone else bringing this up a long time ago and thinking then how silly things have gotten. I really don't necessarily think it implies that being black is a negative thing but simply that someone (or something) is accusing someone else of being what they are.
There is an expression I grew up and spent most of my life thinking was harmless but I'm actually hesitant to mention this because it might offend someone and that's one thing I'd never want to do; I even used it without think at the worst possible time and place a few years ago and felt mortified. That expression is "Indian giver". Heck, there was even a popular song by that title when I was a teen.
Annie
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
12 Jun 10
I recall when I was still in elementary the expression "Indian Giver" was very popular but at an early age my mother and sister told me most of what had been supposedly given was more like taken and told me about an aunt of mine who grew up on the reservation and the whole story of the trail of tears. So needless to say that expression got wiped from my vocabulary at an early age.
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
18 Jul 10
people are just getting PC sensitive to the point of nausea.
it simply means you shouldn't point fingers,you're the same way,more or less.
(pots and kettles both were often cast iron once upon a time,hence the color)
it's almost to the point where it's almost not worth speaking anymore because someone will find offense somewhere.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
12 Jun 10
Not if both the pot and the kettle are black. I hope we aren't getting to this point of people being that stupid to think a saying older than dirt is racist. And if they do think it, then they are stupid. No offense to your friend.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
12 Jun 10
I didn't feel it was racist either but whatever if it upsets someone than I will try and be considerate. Ahh you said older than dirt I guess that means you are an ageist...LOL
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