Women: How safe she is in your place, especially on travel?
By Sreekala
@Sreekala (34312)
India
November 25, 2010 3:49am CST
Dear friends,
I have watched a debate in TV where the topic was about women and the problems facing by them on travel. The problem means the physical violence against women. The debate was about the problems in the particular state (South Indian state), which is the highest literate state in India. The participants were reputed people in the society from both men and women including a criminologist, writer, activists etc.
The women participants conducted some survey on the same topic and find out that women are not safe in travel. Many are facing physical abuses if they travel alone in bus/train etc by their male passengers. To my surprise the male participants blamed women for their dress code. According to them the dress code is making the men violent
. (This state is very particular on dress code and major percentage of women is dressing very decently).
They discussed about that particular state but as a person living in another state I know that the problem exists all over.
What about your place? Is your place safe for women? Please share your thoughts.
Here you can read report in newspaper about the same topic.
http://www.countercurrents.org/gender-jacob230604.htm
[i]Note: I don’t have any intention to offend anybody here in mylot or outside. This is just an effort to find out the how safe women all over the world.
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. (This state is very particular on dress code and major percentage of women is dressing very decently).
They discussed about that particular state but as a person living in another state I know that the problem exists all over.
What about your place? Is your place safe for women? Please share your thoughts.
Here you can read report in newspaper about the same topic.
http://www.countercurrents.org/gender-jacob230604.htm
[i]Note: I don’t have any intention to offend anybody here in mylot or outside. This is just an effort to find out the how safe women all over the world.
[/i]10 people like this
22 responses
@maximax8 (31042)
• United Kingdom
25 Nov 10
When I was younger I did ms overseas on my own and I am female. I found Indonesian men challenging on the island of Sumatra. I was on a bus and the conductor put his hand on my leg. I found that very unpleasant and scary. I found that men would follow me and try to touch me. I had a number of men walk up to me and propose. I talked to a Dutch couple and when they were together they didn't have any problems. If the man went to the restroom the lady had men bothering her. So I would say physical abuse is common to lone women travelers there. It was in the Maldives on a lonely beach that I got attacked. These days I travel with my disabled toddler son and baby daughter. In my area that I live in it is safe for ladies in the day time. Like anywhere sometimes bad things can happen in the night time. I don't like to go out in the late evening alone.
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@voldrox (7191)
• India
25 Nov 10
Hello Sreekala,
You know i have spent my childhood in South India, but i am a native on the Northern part. It is more harassing for women to travel alone here in North India. My place is not good either. You would find the streets empty after 10 at night, only a few motor-vehicles on the road. I don't know why they make such excuses coz as far as i believe no woman wears such revealing kinds of dresses while travelling, whatsoever. It's the men who get excited seeing the woman travelling alone.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
25 Nov 10
Hi voldrox,
First of all thanks for the quick reply. It means you are well aware about the problem and it is not limited within one particular state.
In between the debate become like a quarrel who equally talked for their rights. They even forget about the real aim of the debate, it was how to handle the particular situation or the people.
Have a nice day.
In between the debate become like a quarrel who equally talked for their rights. They even forget about the real aim of the debate, it was how to handle the particular situation or the people.
Have a nice day.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
14 Jan 11
I'm not sure how safe I am in anywhere. I don't use the public transport in the city I am in after having my purse stolen once and I am very careful with autos and avoid using them after dark.
I read the report you mentioned and I have to mention that I have had many similar experiences while in Kerala. Funny part is that none of it happened when I was in jeans and so-called provocative clothing and it often happened when I was in a school uniform or accepted forms of clothing in Kerala. I hated using the public buses and groping was a usual affair...and mostly from old men! The young boys/men would just comment or whistle but some old men were really bad. There were other people who would show obscene gestures too. I didn't know who I could talk to...especially when all this happened when I was alone. When we girls were in a group, we ignored and walked away and felt safe but it would scare me when I happened to be alone.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
31 Jan 11
Girl in jeans are still considered bold in Kerala? I think that time was long past when jeans was considered a banned piece of clothing...hmmm.
When I was younger...no one would dare get in a bus wearing jeans. I remember wearing mine only when I went early in the morning and I would be catching an auto back home. People would stare when I wore jeans and my maternal grandmother expected me to wear a sari once I turned 18
. I would wear a sari when I would go to meet her alone but anything I liked when I visited along with my mom....lol...she was my protector...grandma wouldn't dare say anything when she was around
. I would wear a sari when I would go to meet her alone but anything I liked when I visited along with my mom....lol...she was my protector...grandma wouldn't dare say anything when she was around
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
31 Jan 11
Hello SV,
I agree the old people are more dangerous. The youngsters may give some comments that also to the girls in their age group but they don't dare to do any physical harm.
I think the girls in jeans, is considered as bold enough (in Kerala) so they are safe


@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
25 Nov 10
Women are fairly safe here but we have to take precautions like not encouraging talk with strangers, paying attention to everything around us.
If men have problems with dress codes, that's not the woman's fault--it's the men's fault because they can't control themselves. They are just admitting that they are weak and have no control, worse than an animal. I have always had an issue with this kind of attitude and it's not just in this case--people complain about all sorts of things and claim they are forced to do something because of their own lack of self control. It happens here, too. Time for everyone to develop some self-discipline and control!
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
26 Nov 10
Well I think in our country, there are places when traveling alone for women wouldn't be safe at all like in places like Mindanao where terrorists rule. In face even a well known woman journalist was kidnapped and was held for long time in that place and it was really a big story here in our place some years back. At any rate, apart from that place, I believe other places in our country remain safe as I myself do travel alone and has not experienced anything untoward. But of course as much as possible, it is always better to have companions than traveling just alone if you are a woman.

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@Professor2010 (20156)
• India
25 Nov 10
Hi Sree
This problem is now omnipresent, but more so in big cities and metros..
You know i have served in different places in my state and travel extensively, street romoes we find every where, even in train and buses, police does not take any action..
let me tell you, there are girls who tease guys, i have seen many in college campus too..
Thank you so much for this timely discussion.
Professor. . Cheers have a lucky day ahead.
God bless you. Welcome always.
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@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
14 Oct 11
Dear Sree.
As I am from South India, the article you have mentioned is much aware. As long as women are physically weak it would be difficult if they get into male physical attack. The remedies are there, may be the most important is self consciousness that women are women and to be careful at all places.
I feel the role of family and education have great impact on them. A school level awareness classes and other training should be given girls. I feel this would give a great impact of safeness of women.
Why could a less priced gadgets should be found may be one switch alarm systems when a girl gets attacked, just a switch on and she can aware the people around she is in danger. Lots of safety gadgets are in market why can these technology people find some thing like that a small chip on the bras or under garment, when it is touched by a stranger the alaram goes on increasing sound like "Please do not rape me, my dear brother" "Help me......Hope soon technology could do some help hands....May be it hurts more if someone close are victims.....


@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
27 Nov 10
Well, I would say that there is no safe place on earth. But here in our country, that offensive action of men did not happen. Because men here respect women and did not do anything harm to them most especially in public places. Because men shy to get in touch with women...
There might cases something like that but it's an isolated cases. Which we can say out 365 days only 2 or 4 cases being happen...
Another violence which is not avoidable also is rape. Which is violence against women. Besides the law which is protection against women. There are still cases beyond that particular incident.
The men in your country should educate to learn how to respect women. Your country is now a center of technology development and there might be great changes in form of behavioral actions and education.
That man should not blame women but blame himself because of his blatant desire for women. Men in your country should be know how to control themselves most particularly in public places...
Women should not blame if men committed violent. Because women have the right to wear on what they feel good to wear...
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
1 Jan 11
Hi aerous,
Happy New Year to you
. I am glad to interact with you after a long time. Hope you are doing fine.
I heard that your country is safe for women. Here the people are well educated and I think, those who are indulging, need treatment.
Thank you very much for your response. Have a great year ahead.
Thank you very much for your response. Have a great year ahead. @bewitched13 (792)
• India
9 Dec 10
I understand that women are not safe when traveling alone but with education and awareness this situation can be avoided. I was born and brought up in north India but staying in South India after marriage. I would like to say that like one of our friends has said it is very unsafe to travel alone in North India than in the south. The part of India you have mentioned despite of the fact they are a literate state are very narrow minded people who never like a woman to be independent. They speak about one thing and behave in another manner. Leave alone traveling alone they never allow woman to voice her thoughts and views. It is the situation created by such male dominating society. Personally i am person who has traveled throughout India alone both by night trains and also by night buses but have never faced such problems.
Happy mylotting.
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
31 Jan 11
Hello bewitched,
I support your thinking, despite of the educational qualification, the men in south are very much narrow minded. They like to blame females for everything. Even in road, if they see the driver is a lady in a car then they try to tease them or do fun in road too. Instead of respecting women they have some sarcasm towards women. I saw that tendency on male participants in the debate though they represent the gentle men.

@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
25 Nov 10
hello sister
,
That's sad to know how unsafe it is for women to travel in those places.
Here in my country,there are certain places that is unsafe not only for women but also for men when you are not a resident of those particular area,but with the residents they know their place it's safe for them.
Here in Metro Manila where i lived in,the City never sleeps.
I have different work shifting and i can say that,it is safe for women to travel alone here in metro city,and even with other places here in the Philippines.
This past 2 weeks i go to work as early as 2am and i need to ride a jeep and a bus to reach my work place.
And,most of my women team colleague lives much far from our work place and leaves their homes earlier than i do.
The other week is also a night shift,my off is 11pm and i have to ride bus and jeep before reaching home.
Dress code,i think you are aware that here in my country women dressed like western people.
Some women here are almost naked,dressed and leave nothing to imagination.
Well,that's maybe one reason why men here in my country are used to it and don't even bother if panties or undies are showing...it's not a new view for them..hahahaha.
Well,it's safe here in my place,and other parts of the country for women to travel alone.
Have a good day always dear sister
,
That's sad to know how unsafe it is for women to travel in those places.
Here in my country,there are certain places that is unsafe not only for women but also for men when you are not a resident of those particular area,but with the residents they know their place it's safe for them.
Here in Metro Manila where i lived in,the City never sleeps.
I have different work shifting and i can say that,it is safe for women to travel alone here in metro city,and even with other places here in the Philippines.
This past 2 weeks i go to work as early as 2am and i need to ride a jeep and a bus to reach my work place.
And,most of my women team colleague lives much far from our work place and leaves their homes earlier than i do.
The other week is also a night shift,my off is 11pm and i have to ride bus and jeep before reaching home.
Dress code,i think you are aware that here in my country women dressed like western people.
Some women here are almost naked,dressed and leave nothing to imagination.
Well,that's maybe one reason why men here in my country are used to it and don't even bother if panties or undies are showing...it's not a new view for them..hahahaha.
Well,it's safe here in my place,and other parts of the country for women to travel alone.
Have a good day always dear sister
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
29 Dec 10
Hello dear sister,
I am glad to know that your place is safe for women even in midnight. I really surprised to know you are travelling alone at 2 am. You know dear, when I was a student (doing my B.Com) mine was evening shift and my father waited for me in the bus stop every evening for accompanying me to home. Don't think that I am reaching in midnight, I was reaching the bus stop at 6 PM (in winter time the day is shorter so there may be darkness at that time). Here in this city traveling alone at 9 pm is ok for me not more than that.
Thanks for your response dear.
Wish you a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year 2011.

I am glad to know that your place is safe for women even in midnight. I really surprised to know you are travelling alone at 2 am. You know dear, when I was a student (doing my B.Com) mine was evening shift and my father waited for me in the bus stop every evening for accompanying me to home. Don't think that I am reaching in midnight, I was reaching the bus stop at 6 PM (in winter time the day is shorter so there may be darkness at that time). Here in this city traveling alone at 9 pm is ok for me not more than that.
Thanks for your response dear.
Wish you a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year 2011.
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@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
29 Dec 10
hello again sister Sree
,
My work shift changed again since December.
My work starts at 12 midnight till 9am.
I leave home around 11pm,but this time i use my car since my work place is just 10-15 mins drive from home (my work place changed also) our team was assigned to another site.
I was thinking how unsafe it is to travel in your home when your father had to wait for you at the bus stop as early as 6pm.
My daughter usually arrives home at 9pm.
Well,there are certain places around the world that is not safe to travel.
I am thankful our place is somehow safe ,especially here in metro.
Wish you all the best of everything this coming NEW YEAR my dear 

,
My work shift changed again since December.
My work starts at 12 midnight till 9am.
I leave home around 11pm,but this time i use my car since my work place is just 10-15 mins drive from home (my work place changed also) our team was assigned to another site.
I was thinking how unsafe it is to travel in your home when your father had to wait for you at the bus stop as early as 6pm.
My daughter usually arrives home at 9pm.
Well,there are certain places around the world that is not safe to travel.
I am thankful our place is somehow safe ,especially here in metro.
Wish you all the best of everything this coming NEW YEAR my dear 

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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36847)
• Pamplona, Spain
6 Jan 11
Hiya Sreekala,
Only just a Day ago a very young,
very pretty Girl came around the Doors asking for Food.
I never understand her as she is from somewhere I think it´s Rumania actually but I did understand her motive. But she was without her Mother. Last Year she came with her Mom but this time she is on her own. How shocking for such a young Girl to be out like this when the Door that opens to her next could be a "weird strange" Person. You know what I mean don´t you. She is so pretty and so young that she could "Fall Prey" to any of those kind of People.
Where on her was her Mother this Girl cannot be above nine years of age. I gave her a packet of Biscuits but if her Mother had gone with her I would have given her extra. I just did not know what to do for sure. She could run into danger and her Mother would not know of it and would not be able to help her either. Thought I would mention that one as it is on the increase too.
very pretty Girl came around the Doors asking for Food.
I never understand her as she is from somewhere I think it´s Rumania actually but I did understand her motive. But she was without her Mother. Last Year she came with her Mom but this time she is on her own. How shocking for such a young Girl to be out like this when the Door that opens to her next could be a "weird strange" Person. You know what I mean don´t you. She is so pretty and so young that she could "Fall Prey" to any of those kind of People.
Where on her was her Mother this Girl cannot be above nine years of age. I gave her a packet of Biscuits but if her Mother had gone with her I would have given her extra. I just did not know what to do for sure. She could run into danger and her Mother would not know of it and would not be able to help her either. Thought I would mention that one as it is on the increase too.1 person likes this

@lovinangelsinstead21 (36847)
• Pamplona, Spain
31 Jan 11
Hiya sreekala,
That´s right her Mother should not allow her to wander this is a potentially dangerous Country as much as any other.
People see Spain as a Holiday Country and nothing else. They should never take their guard down being here.
I just thank God that the Girl is safe at least I think she is and I hope so.
Sadly I think this Girl already knows that about her Mother should not send her and you cannot interfere sreekala you see you could be accused of anything now.
If I had reported the incident it would mean a whole load of problems for me for not minding my own business so to speak. As the Law is at the moment you don´t know whether you are doing right or wrong.
Example you can be fined for giving People in need of money in the Streets and also feeding Animals in the Street things like that.
Maybe with a bit of luck the Girl won´t need to have to go around everyone´s houses asking for money and food for a long long time. Way of life there are a lot of these things going on.



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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36847)
• Pamplona, Spain
6 Jan 11
Hiya Sreekala,
Although I live here in Spain it is not really safe for any Woman or young Girl to be out on her own let alone traveling anywhere else.
There is a false myth here that you are safe but you are not. More than once I have had to free myself from some bothersome Man who had taken into his Head other ideas which were not mine at all.
Thank goodness I managed to flee from them and get Home safe. No it is not really a safe Country at all.
I think that Women everywhere should be on guard always. I found one right in my Parent´s House while visiting England once and I quickly told him where to go. Take care now.xxx


@Kalyni2011 (3496)
• India
11 Dec 10
I think the saree blouse we wear are not bad, provided much of the belly or clevage is not exposed, but many wear too small sleeveless blouses, wear saree below navel, enough to provocate men..
yes while travelling alone we are more unsafe, normally i travel with my hubby or sons, only when i go to my daughters home 50kms away i go alone by train or bus
happy mylotting
cheers
kalyni
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@Kalyni2011 (3496)
• India
31 Jan 11
Hi Sreeji
In india situation is similar in almost all states, the way the girls wear saree below navel, exposing clevage, the blouse are more like bras, back is fully open.
Even those who wear salwar-kameez, never keep the dupatta in its right place, in my city one PG student was mass raped, the saddest point is she came with a group of guys of her own accord.
thanks for this timely post
kalyani
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
1 Feb 11
Hello Kalyaniji,
I don’t like to see the girls who can’t wear their dress properly. I blame their mother only for exposing their body parts. What she is doing at home, can’t she see her daughter when she is out. There nothing wrong to wear modern dress but it should cover the body properly.

@lkbooi (16070)
• Malaysia
27 Nov 10
Hi Sree, it's really indignant and sad that there are still similar cases happen here about women and girls are harassed and raped by cheeky culprits once in a while. It's very hard to guard against culprits that are abnormal and having intention to commit such crime even though enforcement of punishment to oppose their dreadful violence.
Fortunate that it's still safe for female to travel alone riding on either personal or public vehicle. Six years back I had been travelling in my own car to the working place in a remote small town. The journey was two hours or so from my house to the destination. If my colleague went back to the work place with me I usually would depart at around eight in the evening. If not I usually left for the destination early in the morning about five forty five. Thank god nothing undesirable happened in the two year to and fro route. What scared me the most was passing through a huge rubber estate. It seemed like black as night. I's afraid that my car lamps didn't work at that very moment the first time I experienced the journey alone
I seemed to upset myself for no reason eh...lol...
Sharing my own true experience here just to let you know it's still safe for a woman to travel alone in her own vehicle alone. It's safe as well for a female to travel alone on a a public transport without company. To me it's always safe to walk alone in crowded places and busy road and avoid to be in the dark where there are less passerby. Thanks for the share of the report and I have leaned lots of info after reading. I would be nagging if I keep on chatting about the influence of dress code here
Take care and have a nice day
I seemed to upset myself for no reason eh...lol...
Sharing my own true experience here just to let you know it's still safe for a woman to travel alone in her own vehicle alone. It's safe as well for a female to travel alone on a a public transport without company. To me it's always safe to walk alone in crowded places and busy road and avoid to be in the dark where there are less passerby. Thanks for the share of the report and I have leaned lots of info after reading. I would be nagging if I keep on chatting about the influence of dress code here
Take care and have a nice day
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
8 Jan 11
Hello my dear
,
I am glad to now that your place is safe for women. Here, every day’s newspapers is carrying some news about some unlucky women. Yesterday, there was a news about seventy years old women who got killed in her residence and was sexually assaulted too. She was living alone. It proves that a woman is not safe in her home if she lives alone. The main motive was robbery.
Be proud of your place dear.
Have a nice weekend. Take nice care of you.
,
I am glad to now that your place is safe for women. Here, every day’s newspapers is carrying some news about some unlucky women. Yesterday, there was a news about seventy years old women who got killed in her residence and was sexually assaulted too. She was living alone. It proves that a woman is not safe in her home if she lives alone. The main motive was robbery.
Be proud of your place dear.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
27 Nov 10
Such harassment of women by men is illegal in the U.S., but it still occurs to a lesser extent. Due to the manner in which some of the young women dress, I can hardly blame men for thinking that they were hookers. That is another story and does not be the case in the article you referenced.
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@chaitra001 (3278)
• Bangalore, India
27 Nov 10
Hi Sree,
yes dear its every where.. Its difficult travel alone in public transport.. There are some worst males who just get drunked and get into to bus.. in Bangalore ladies get in and out through front door of bus and gents back door.. but some males wantedly get into bus through front door when the bus is rush and specially full of ladies infront.. Some men even harrase ladies in rush bus its really disgusting..
yes dear its every where.. Its difficult travel alone in public transport.. There are some worst males who just get drunked and get into to bus.. in Bangalore ladies get in and out through front door of bus and gents back door.. but some males wantedly get into bus through front door when the bus is rush and specially full of ladies infront.. Some men even harrase ladies in rush bus its really disgusting..1 person likes this
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
8 Jan 11
Hi dear,
In bus the same system is going on in Kerala too. But here in bus, the back door is meant for 'getting into' and front door is 'getting out'. I think there is no difference if the space is divided for male and female. Thos who want to do something they are experienced to intrude ‘in’.
Have a nice weekend dear.
In bus the same system is going on in Kerala too. But here in bus, the back door is meant for 'getting into' and front door is 'getting out'. I think there is no difference if the space is divided for male and female. Thos who want to do something they are experienced to intrude ‘in’.
Have a nice weekend dear. @Porcospino (31365)
• Denmark
28 Nov 10
Compared to some of other places around the world Denmark is a relatively safe place for women to travel, but sometimes there are women who get raped or murdered. My country might be less dangeruos for women than some the other countries in world, but it is not a completely safe place. I live in a village in the countryside and there isn't much crime here, but in the big cities I would never walk around alone at night if I can avoid it. I once had a job where I finished work around midnight and I had to walk from the train station to my home. I always walked as fast as I could because I didn't feel comfortable walking alone at that time of the night.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
27 Nov 10
Hi sree...
I have posted a discussion regarding this issue. Perhaps you did not see. Here is a link and it will make you clear how much safe our women while traveling?
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2406717.aspx
Again, when i see something written like " harassing women passenger is a punishable offense" on train. I just ask myself... are we civilized? are we completely human?
Have a nice day.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
8 Jan 11
Hello Shibham,
Yes, I missed that discussion of yours. Now I read it. True, the co-passengers are more selfish and just want to avoid the problems. They must think that, it is their problem, not mine but anybody can get into trouble anywhere.
You showed the courage to react and I hope it worked well and they don’t think to harass any girl in future.
Thank you very much for sharing.
Have a nice weekend.
You showed the courage to react and I hope it worked well and they don’t think to harass any girl in future.
Thank you very much for sharing.
Have a nice weekend. @back2guw (128)
• India
4 Dec 10
Women are not at all safe in any place on earth. women molested,abused,raped etc that's what can be heard everyday.Nor any government nor any laws can prevent this,if this kind of situation prevails for long a day will come when women will fear to come out of their homes..









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