The Book of Mormon... The Broadway Musical.

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
June 14, 2011 11:15am CST
The new musical is meeting with rave reviews as well as hurt feelings by the targets of the parody. As a Mormon, I'm as indifferent to the musical as I am to "Big Love" and other pop culture references to my church. Why? Because I'm not going to get all bent out of shape every time someone decides to take potshots at my beliefs. Mostly though, because as much as they like to pat themselves on the back for their originality, it's really nothing new. Mormons have been mocked and parodied since the 1830s. But there is one thing I'd like to take the opportunity to point out. In the 7 years the writers, producers, actors and others were working on this Broadway masterpiece, parodying two Mormon missionaries in Africa, real Mormons in Africa were making a difference. Writing for the Washington Post, Michael Otterson sets the record straight. It's pretty enlightening.. if not as entertaining. •According to church records, in the past seven years, more than four million Africans in 17 countries have gained access to clean drinking water through Mormon humanitarian efforts to sink or rehabilitate boreholes. •More than 34,000 physically handicapped African kids now have wheelchairs through the same Mormon-sponsored humanitarian program. To see a legless child whose knuckles have become calloused through walking on his hands lifted into a wheelchair may be the best way to fully understand the liberation this brings. •Millions of children, meanwhile, have now been vaccinated against killer diseases like measles as the church has sponsored or assisted with projects in 22 African countries. •More than 126,000 Africans have had their sight restored or improved through Mormon partnership with African eye care professionals in providing training, equipment and supplies. •Another 52,000 Africans have been trained to help newborns who otherwise would never take a first breath. Training in neonatal resuscitation has also been a big project for Mormons in Africa. •Then, of course, there is the tragedy of AIDS. A couple of weeks ago I attended a dinner where the Utah AIDS Foundation honored James O. Mason, former United States Assistant Secretary of Health. When he was working for the Center for Disease Control in 1984, a project to research the epidemiology and treatment of AIDS was established at the Hospital Mama Yempo in Kinshasha, Zaire. After visiting the hospital and examining the children and adults with AIDS, Mason described the death rate and the associated infections from AIDS as “horrific.” Mason, a Mormon, knows quite a bit about AIDS and a great deal about Africa. •None of this includes responses to multiple disasters, like the flooding in Niger, where the Church provided clothing, quits and hygiene items to 20,000 people in six inundated regions of the country. What people don't realize is, when we send our 19-21 year old young men and women on missions, they learn the languages and culture of the people in the areas they work. Then they spend 18 months to 2 years living among the people, serving them and working with them. They get to know the people in ways few outsiders ever get the opportunity. So, while you are laughing (and no, I don't see anything wrong with laughing, after all, it's a parody, it's supposed to be funny!), get to know the facts behind the laughs. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/why-i-wont-be-seeing-the-book-of-mormon-musical/2011/04/14/AFiEn1fD_blog.html
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@Adoniah (7512)
• United States
15 Jun 11
As a Jew, I empathize with you over this parody. It is unnecessary. I also understand that all you can do is deal with it as the Jews have to deal with all the crap that is done to them. It is still unnecessary to do this. People will say it is because you are different. Different How? Well behaved? Religious? Clean cut? Helping people? Doing things like setting up hospitals in Haiti, Chile or as in your case Africa? I'm proud are you? Let them make parodies and laugh. We know what we are and what we are doing. Shalom to you Ted.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Jun 11
Shalom to you to, Adoniah. I stand with Israel.
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@Adoniah (7512)
• United States
16 Jun 11
Thank you!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
15 Jun 11
very well said!
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
14 Jun 11
Until last week I have never heard of thr Musical called "The Book of Morman". You can tell I am not a musical fan! Anyway what you posted on what the Morman have been doing in different parts of Africa I never knew was going on! That is fastasic that Mormans are helping the sick,helping new borns,build wells and all the other stuff you mentioned! The Mormans seem to be doing more then other religions do! It sounds like the Mormans are making other religions look bad! I am not a Morman and grew up Lutheran. I think the Lutherans and the othe religions need a wake up call!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 11
Grap, thanks for your mindless bigotry and ignorance. May Christ be more fair with you than you are with us. If you don't believe in our teachings and doctrine, that is fine, but this thread isn't about our doctrine, it's about the good service we provide to our fellow man. Btw, you're wrong, there is nothing obligatory about service in the LDS church. We are free to decide what service we want to offer, and when. All the church does is encourages us to look for service opportunities. So, instead of sitting there judging us, I challenge you to get out and be the Christian you claim to be.
• Canada
17 Jun 11
I'm sure other religions do do things. They may have less workers and money than Mormons, I don't really know. Partly because giving service and money is pretty much obligatory for Mormons. However I think mainstream Christian missionary organizations do have issues. They seem to expect people to raise money to support their own work and try to persuade people to do things other than what they think God wants them to do (OK, this is from stuff I heard a long time ago so things have hopefully improved). The trouble is that Mormonism is Satanic deception. It's also incredibly stupid! Gold tablets in reformed hieroglyphics (an otherwise unknown language) translated with magic spectacles with huge chunks coming out the same as the King James Bible! Do these missionaries tell the Africans than dark skin is a punishment for sitting on the fence in the war between God and Satan in their pre-existence? What about God living on the planet Cobol (Not sure I got the name right - it's very similar to the name of a planet in Battlestar Galactica)? Oh year, the Angel Moroni was an "angle of light" - if you look up "angel of light" in the Mormon dictionary it says, "See Satan."
@peavey (16936)
• United States
14 Jun 11
I'm glad that it doesn't bother you. I'm not Mormon, but it bothers me that any religion should be made fun of. Of course, this is America and anything goes, it seems. I know that Mormons do a lot of good work and I won't be seeing that musical, either.
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• Canada
17 Jun 11
Sometimes it's hard to be honest about a religion without saying bad things about it. This is especially true of Mormonism.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 11
Gratopetalum, I'm sure you don't miss any opportunity to trash Mormons.. but make all sorts of excuses why you don't serve others like Christ commanded us.
@urbandekay (18278)
16 Jun 11
By their fruits... all the best urban
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Jun 11
Exactly!
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
17 Jun 11
Hi ParaTed2k, I haven't seen the musical but know the story behind Mormonism. I am sure that the Mormon church is doing much good worldwide, but I think the only reason is to convert people to Mon monism, and I strongly disagree with it for that reason. When Christ helped people, there were no conditions attached, and that's the way it should be. It is not only Mormons, but all denominations and religions who do this, and in every case it is wrong. I feel strongly that we are spiritual beings having a human experience, but religion has got us in the mess we are in today. Live life in the now and forget the teachings of religion, in other words be spiritual but not religious. Blessings.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 11
Um, Pose, you do realize that The Book of Mormon musical is a parody of The Book of Mormon, don't you? It was written by some of the South Park writers, not by Mormons. I'm pretty sure their intent had nothing to do with converting people to the LDS church. I understand your feelings about spirituality and religion, even if I don't agree. I wish you nothing but happiness in your life.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 11
Ah, ok.. I will say though that I've never planned or been part of a service project in my church where we made proselyting a priority. I've also never been on a service project where we proselyted. Of course, that doesn't mean it never happens, just not in the ones I've been involved in.. in the 11 states I've lived. Furthermore, I have been involved in a lot of disaster recovery operations. These were part of my job, not part of an LDS group. I've never seen the volunteers from the LDS church proselyte during a recovery operation. All the people I worked with knew I was Mormon, and none of them complained to me about the volunteers from the LDS church trying to talk religion with them. And believe me, when they did have a complaint about the Mormon volunteers.. I always heard about it. :~D We do service because Christ commanded it, any other purpose is secondary.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
17 Jun 11
Hi again ParaTed2k, My comments were about the good work being done by the Mormon and other Churches and religions, in helping the less fortunate. It's always good to help people but not to have an ulterior motive. I'm pleased that we can agree to disagree. Blessings.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
14 Jun 11
No one can deny that Mormans put the words of Christ into action. I remember having some lively discussions with the missionaries at my home. While I am not a Mormon, my sister in law is, and when I first moved back to Missouri they pitched in and helped me get settled with donations of furniture and household items. I cannot deny that they are good people. They also were quite gracious when I disagreed with them on points of doctrine, not taking offense at all, and still counting me as a friend dispite my resistance to their teachings.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Jun 11
Our 13th Article of Faith: We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
15 Jun 11
15 Jun 11
While I am sure that the Mormon church does a lot of good in the world I would point out that so do other religious organisations and there are a lot of christian charities that do this sort of work. I am an atheist but I am also the secretary of our local Save the Children group which is one of the largest charities in the world and in the Burma emergency a few years ago while it took several days for other charities to get in there Save the Children were distributing aid the next morning. This charity is basically secular but was started with a large donation from the Vatican. Other christian churches are also made fun of. All Gas and Gaiters comes to mind, Vicar of Dibley and Father Ted are all comedy programs about the christian church. Any organisation that cannot stand being made fun of has a very weak foundation. As an atheist I have a belief that all religions are set up by con men but with most of them it happened so long ago that any evidence is lost with time however with the Mormon church we do know that for a fact so it is not surprising that it is a target for comedy
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Jun 11
Yes, a lot of churches, and non church groups do a lot of good in the world. Thanks for letting us know what Save the Children is doing. All groups that do such great work deserve credit! I commend you for being involved in that group, and the work you do. I agree, groups that can't handle a little parody are as weak as individuals who can't handle it themselves. :~)
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jun 11
hi Parated when I lived in Arizona I was privledged to work with a nurse who was a Mormom and to learn how really wonderfully helpful the Mormons are t o both their own people and to others in general.she we a young mother of two whose husband had left her and her two children on their own. She belonged to the local Mormon churchl. When they found ou t that her husband had left her they helped her and her childrne into a two bedroom apartment and even paid the rent for the first few months until she was able to take itover. Theyfound her the job she was in when I was hired to help her. I was surprised myself at how much I was paid as a nurses aide as opposed to what the c urrent wages for a nurses aide in the local hospitals were being paid. I stayed in that job for several years until myfirst child then had to retire. but I learned so much about all the humanitarian efforts the Mormons made and how well they treated the nurse I worked with. My husband and I had at one time really considered joining the Mormon church.However we stayed in our comfortable rut in mhy Methodist church.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Jun 11
Yes, I have been a part of many opportunities to help people through my church. Service becomes almost an addiction.. actually, in my case it became something that comes very close to the definition of a psychological addiction. :~D
• Canada
17 Jun 11
I haven't seen this musical. Mormonism is a rapidly growing religion but there are serious issues with it so I can understand why people would want to oppose it. It's very deceptive and manages to convince people who don't know much about it that it's Christian. It's really an offshoot of Freemasonry. Mormons claim to believe in the Holy Trinity but redefine it as meaning three different gods while the real Christian Trinity is one God. They believe in salvation by works, not by grace (they probably claim to believe in salvation by grace but redefine it). This means that they reject the two main Christian doctrines. I could go on, and on, and on but here's a website you can look at: http://www.exmormon.org/
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 11
Such ignorance from someone claiming to be Christian. Let's hope Christ is forgiving of your lies and blatant bigotry.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 11
Again, this thread isn't about LDS Doctrine, it's sad that you can't see past your own hatred to acknowledge the service we do for our fellow man. I wonder if you've ever done anything for anyone. Or is spewing bigotry a "service" in your mind?
• Canada
21 Jun 11
How am I ignorant? You claim I'm wrong but you don't really provide counter arguments. Of course the Mormon churches deceptive habits of keeping doctrines secret from the lower level followers and non-members and redefining Christian terms makes arguments difficult. Is spreading a Satanic religion really doing anyone a service? If you do this all else is pretty moot. You can do a lot of study on what the members of any religion do and get into arguments about how these actions, good or bad, relate to it's doctrines. This tends to get very complicated. Therefore I concentrate on the doctrines of religions in order to judge them. Yes I do help others but I have little money and people seldom want my help or listen to my advice (I get to say, "told you so" a lot), which greatly limits what I can do.