I hope this won't be a year of continued loss

@JenInTN (27514)
United States
February 18, 2012 7:24pm CST
I have to say that I have experienced quite a bit of loss in ending 2011 and beginning 2012. I am not usually one to talk about the things that have brought me down. It helps me to look forward to see the brighter side of things, but the past few months have been tough. My oldest daughter moved out..which is a natural scheme of things..then shortly after I lost a rescue dog that I had for four years. She was a joy but age determined her demise, and I felt lucky to have had her in our lives. Tonight, however, I lost my Max. He was the first of my pets since moving here almost 6 years ago and has sired the other 3 in my home. Their mother is with me too. She is the one that chose me as her own. He was hit by a speeding car and as I knelt on my knees in the street above him, they drove by slowly and said they were sorry out the window. I was so shocked that I couldn't speak. They just kept going. My youngest daughter is what I am worried about the most. She saw it happen and is devastated. How can I help her see that he was a gift that we weren't meant to keep? That death is as much a part of life as living? How can I help her because she was very close to him too.
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
19 Feb 12
Most of us have to deal with youngsters who do not understand life per se. You too will do a good job of it Jen... Losing a pet is a devastating experience and when we bring them into our life we definitely know that they will be there for not more than 15 or 16 years.I get these thoughts so off and on. We have had experiences too but "time and tide waits for no man"- life moves on. Have you not heard of the words "After the storm comes the calm. After the calm comes the Sunshine"?
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Hi allknowing! I certainly could use a bit of sunshine. It is the down side of pets that they are bound to leave us at one point or another. I certainly was hoping that he would be around for a while longer. There are those pets that have personalities of their own that make them so special..he was one of them for sure. Thanks for the response!
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
19 Feb 12
We too as you know are pet lovers. We used to even bring home stray pregnant ones, keep them till they littered, give away the pups when they were strong enough to be independent and take care of the mother ourselves. I could write a book on our life and our pets. We must take things in our stride and cry when we must and wait for time to take over.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
You are very strong. I actually considered going to the animal shelter and taking a pet that I thought would not be chosen otherwise but I just don't know if I have it in me to do it just this second. I don't know if I want to feel this way again. I have other pets...my Max actually sired them and their mother is practically attached to my hip when I am home. My daughter had really taken up with him over the past couple of years though. It's hard but it is part of life to lose.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Oh Jen, I am terribly sorry, and that your daughter saw it, that just makes it harder, because she will probably keep replaying the scene over and over again in her head..You didn't mention her age, I am assuming she is at least a young teen since you have an older daughter... My suggestion is to get her to talk about it or find someone she can talk to about it. Also, has she shown any kind of grieving? If she is holding in her emotions, it will just eat her up. But at the same time, she will need space to grief on her own too. I'd say perhaps let her know you are there if she wants to talk, but don't push it, yet don't let her go too long without "letting it out."
• United States
19 Feb 12
Oh I forgot, here is a hug for you and your daughter:
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Thanks for the hugs. Oh no...no one is holding it back at this point. I can't remember crying so much in a hundred years. She's not holding back either. She is very open at this point to grieving. She is 13 and loved that dog. He loved her very much too. I am glad that things weren't gory. That would have been even worse. Thanks for responding!
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• United States
19 Feb 12
No problem Jen, I have lost a few dogs, but never to an accident and I never had a child witness it, I was just giving you suggestions that I would do if my son saw one of our dogs get hit. I am glad you both are being open and just give it time, the healing will come and since you are not being closed off, it will come sooner..Praying for you guys too...
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Feb 12
I am sorry to hear that you are going through this. I certainly hope that 2012 won't be a bad one for you. I lost my dearest dog, Stryder. We had to put him down. It was so sad but he was not able to get around any more. And i remnember when we lost our Momma Cat. She had mothered all the kittens whether hers or brough in(aren't animal amazing?!)so that was sad to lose her. Someone had left anti freeze on the floor of the parking lot and she got into it. All of what you said is what she needs to believe. So sad that someone hit her and then to just drive on like nothing much had happened. People are something. Sure hope it is a better year for you.
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Feb 12
I hope so too. Try to focus on other things. Take it a day at a time.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Thanks celticeagle. I have cried all night and so has my b/f and daughter. We all loved him dearly. It is hard to lose them. I actually started this discussion right after we buried him..not my normal discussion content..but I was just so sad that i needed to vent it. I have heard that stuff comes in threes. I am hoping that the bad times are over for just a little while.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 12
Hi jen... I understand your situation and feelings of your daughter. Its very hard to forget the loss of someone whom we love most but it is also a part of nature and we are obliged to bow down as everything is already determined, Just try to console her and if possible bring an another pet. have a nice time.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Oh shibham...I don't know if I can introduce another at this point. I have other pets..Max actually sired the little ones we have now. I knew when we got him that at one point or another we would lose him. I guess we just weren't ready to let him go yet. Thanks for responding!
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
19 Feb 12
Oh dear. I am so sorry for your loss. At least they should have stopped and helped more. It was wrong on their part. Anyways, for the daughter... I can understand that grief. I think the right way would be to get one of the same breed for her. She will overcome the shock and the new member in the family would help her forget those scars which I guess would have already started haunting her.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Hi thesids! So sorry for the sad discussion content. I am usually one that loves the bright side and very rarely shows sadness. I was in shock last night when I began this topic. I guess on one hand...they did come back and tell me they were sorry out the window of their car as they drove by. I wouldn't have handled it that way though. I would have stopped. I suppose it's not everyday you see a woman in her pajamas on her knees in the road though. They may have been afraid to stop. I have cried all night with my daughter and I think we are going to be ok. I think that getting it out is the key sometimes so we are on the right track. Thanks for responding to me during a sad time.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
22 Feb 12
I can always count on you thesids. Life is full of ups and downs. Things can't be sunny all the time. I guess the saddest of moments are what makes us truly appreciate the good times. Thanks for the well wishes! We are doing better.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
21 Feb 12
Never mind the sad discussion dear Jen. It is after all a close to heart one and I admire you for considering this to be posted. I mean what fun is it to share only the lighter things of life... they are good no doubt but rarely the ones which bring the bondings and strengthening of them between friends and family Sorry to respond after a while, I was traveling and still away from home. I would have stopped to return and also offered myself for assisting to a vet or anything else. I know, I have done something that I shouldnt and running away is not the right thing. Hope you and your daughter are recovering for the good of both and all Take Care
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@sjvg1976 (42727)
• Delhi, India
19 Feb 12
Hello JenInTN, Oh its really sad to know it and more sad that your daughter saw it and sometime some things which happens in our lives we can't forget those so easily and these comes in our mind repeatedly and we become sad everytime we remember those.So you need to help your daughter to forget it.May be you should bring another pet with the choice of your daughter so that she may forget that incident.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
We have other pets and I think she will develop a relationship with one of them. He actually sired the pets we have and there is one that has oddly started to be around her lately. I do appreciate the response.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
19 Feb 12
Dearest Jen...I am SOOOOO very, very sorry for your deep loss..and in such a tragic manner! A horrific reminder of how fragile life can be! I may be messed in the head...but I truly grieve the loss of a pet, I think most times, more than humanity. I know I am weird, but these little people in fur coats...are the truly, best friend that we can ever hope to have in this life...and they are the ONLY people that accept us for what we are, will NEVER betray us..and are loyal, NO matter what! YOU have the reputation of being the "best MOM" on the planet, dear Jen...and I just know...you will do what you truly feel right, to help your lovely daughter across this huge chasm! It is such a helpless feeling, knowing that you can't right this wrong..but with your great heart, you will prop each other up and get thru this! Hopefully...having his children around you, will help you thru this time of grief! Sadly, the most common loss we have, is those of our pets...Please remember, God doesn't give us more than we can handle, so with that thought in mind...I truly hope his strength helps you thru this time...and the future promises rainbows!
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
I am like you my friend. That little guy was truly a part of a family and was treated as if he were one of my children. You can tell that pets thrive and act differently when they are part of the family and not just considered pets too. Such a little thing and so full of love. My daughter is sooo very sad. He attached to her after my jealous Eva took me over as her own. I don't know about the best mom in the world...all I really know to do is let her get it out and talk about it when she wants. We talked last night about how love is a funny thing...not funny haha but more like the one thing that can take you to opposite axises in the blink of an eye. How some people never get to experience such closeness with animals so how special it is to embrace the fact that although we are so very sad, we got the chance to love so deeply. I guess I am a bit weird to be so devastated too but he was a part of things for me too. Thanks for the promise of rainbows you always have for me.
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• Canada
19 Feb 12
Jen, dear Jen...you are NOT weird! After responding to your post, I walked away...and had a few tears for my three (yes-3) dogs, I have interred here on the property! Mokei (the Mom, whom I had to put to rest early, due to Cancer) but I had 2 of her son's, "O'ef" and "Tosh" and they both passed two years ago..in March, this is TWO years...and I still grieve! I love, with all my heart..my lovely little man, now, Brui...but there is STILL so much love left for my other pals! NO..it is NOT easy....AND to me, my DOGS are the truly only thing I can LOVE with true ABANDON!! Due to our upbringings, Jen...with humans, I always hold a little of me back...but not with our pets! Brui helped me "over the hump days", so thankful for him!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
I know this is going to sound odd but recently one of Max's offspring...the one most like him...had started attaching himself to my daughter too. He has been with her most all day today. Weird...almost like it was like they knew or something. Who knows how smart or instinctive they must be? I still have the "mom" who will not take no for an answer where I am concerned...lol...she will help me for sure. I am going to miss that little booger though. I'm glad you had Brui. I don't know what I would do if he had been the only pet in the house.
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@jillhill (37353)
• United States
19 Feb 12
That is really a tough one because even adults like us suffer from a loss even though we expect it....just show her that he will live on in your hearts and photos will bring them back whenever we miss them.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
We sure have a ton of them too. He was quite photogenic. Thanks for responding!
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@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
19 Feb 12
so sorry. to a child this kind of loss is almost as bad as a person. heck to us it is to anyway, i like ambies post. i have my Johns ashes here and it helped me get over some of it. of course i yelled at him some, so dont worry if she does that a little. because the dog brought on his own demiss. the people probably didnt know what else to say or do. it may bare on their mind i guess.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
I'm sure it was an odd scene. Me in my pajamas on my knees over him in the street. We have all said that at least they came back...and said they were sorry as they passed. We aren't angry...just sad. He was a stubborn little booger and had started wanting to go potty in the field across the street. I was going to get a fence but I didn't have the money...I will be getting one this Spring though no matter what. Thanks for responding.
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@hotsummer (13919)
• Philippines
19 Feb 12
losing a pet is indeed very hard. it is one thing that is hard to face in life also when our pet would leave us.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Hi hotsummer! Yes..sometimes it is even harder when they just disappear. Wondering where they are...constantly looking for them. I remember the first special pet I had as a child. My grandparents got rid of him because he would bite anyone if he took sight of me...he was very protective. Thanks goodness he was a little guy. Anyway..they told me he had run away and it was months before I stopped mourning and looking for him. They never admitted to getting rid of him but I always knew. It is the only thing that I can say I wished they had handled differently with me. Thanks for responding.
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@1hopefulman (45111)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
Sorry about your losses! Give your daughter all the support and comfort you can give her at this time. Just keep doing the best you can.
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@1hopefulman (45111)
• Canada
22 Feb 12
It's a roller-coaster ride. Hopefully in time there will be more ups then downs. I have a hard time seeing anyone suffer. I wish I had the powers to make everything better for everyone. But unfortunately we all are limited in what we can do but sometimes all we can do is enough. That's why I have pursued getting to know the true God for many decades. I know that he is planning some great things for the future. For the moment and a while longer (I don't know how long) we have to endure. Take care!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
25 Feb 12
Roller coaster ride is a wonderful way to describe life.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Thanks. We are doing better and now that it is the first of the week, our daily routines will help us to stay busy while we come to terms with the loss. She is still very sad but she is talking about it though..that is a good sign. Just when I think I have it together, I look at her and an devastated all over again. It is hard to see your child suffer. Thanks again and take care.
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@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
19 Feb 12
I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my best friend 3 years ago too, from old age, she was 15. What "helped' us a bit was that we found a kitten in our garden 2 weeks prior. Until my dog passed we've only had dogs and it was the first time we had a kitten, so it didn't feel like we were replacing her or anything but a brand new beginning.. and the kitten helped us heal. I was able to cherish the moments I was able to create with my dog and learned that I can do that and also have new beginnings as well.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
It's funny how things happen. I thought it was weird that one of his puppies had suddenly started to take interest in being around my daughter all the time recently. It makes me wonder about the scheme of things. Thank goodness there are other pets in the house. I just couldn't imagine there not being. There will always only be one Max...he was the first one we had here but it does help to have his offspring here too. Thanks for sharing and take care.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
19 Feb 12
I am really sorry to hear of your loss Jen. It is tough to lose a pet that has been loved for a long time by the family. Even more tough when the pet is taken so unexpectedly like that. When a dog is old, you sort of expect it and realise that it is for the best if they were in pain. But to have something like that happen and for the driver to not even stop is so wrong! We lost our family dog last year so I know how you must be feeling. It was so sudden. One minute she was fine and then she did not come in for dinner when called. We found her paralised by ticks and took her straight to the after hours vet, but there was nothing they could do. They said they had never seen a dog go downhill so fast. She was only 6 years old, but my children had grown up with her. My son got to say goodbye just in case before she went to the vet, he saw her paralised, but my daughter was away for the night and never got to say goodbye. She was very close to her and found it very hard to take. The household was a real mess for weeks afterwards. We each felt guilty and wished we had done more to protect her. The only suggestion that I can make is to be there for each other and to remember the good times with the dog and not the accident.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
That is a shame RawBill. I understand what you mean about the blame game. I had been worried because he had recently started trying to go across the road to a field where he wanted to potty. I think that I should've got that fence but I just couldn't afford it at the time. I was glad that he wasn't messed up by the hit. We were able to put him in a towel and hold him close. Say goodbye. There wasn't a bit of blood and I kept thinking that maybe he was just stunned...he wasn't. He was quite photogenic so we do have some wonderful pictures of him. Good memories. Thanks for responding!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Yes it would have been. I am thankful for that mercy.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
20 Feb 12
I am glad to hear that he was not messed up by the hit. I was wondering that. It would have been so much more disturbing for everyone if it had been messy.
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@winston90 (296)
• Romania
19 Feb 12
I am really sorry for your loss. I hope the best for you, and wish you had someone on your side that could help you get over it. Also, do not let it put you down. The past is something you do not want to live in. It is a place that most people love, but when they snap out of the daydream, all is sour in their lifes and nothing seems to please them anymore. Just enjoy other thing you love in life, never forget the things you have lost, but always remember that there was nothing that you could have done, and definitely nothing you can do now. Goodbye!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
19 Feb 12
Thank you for the condolences winston. It is not something I want to do...live in the past. Take care.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 12
Rude... Sorry for your loss.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
23 Feb 12
Thanks dawn...it'a hard to lose a pet. They are part of the family.
@MandaLee (3804)
• United States
26 Apr 12
I am so sorry. That is so very sad! You and your daughter will be in my thoughts and prayers.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Apr 12
I appreciate it Mandalee.
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
27 Feb 12
first of all I am sorry that I could not get to your discussion here earlier as we were away Saturday last week and I am still playing catch up with a heap of notifications.I am so sorry to hear you still have to cope with the void of your daughter having moved out and then losing Max. You know you made his pet life happy and now he is over the rainbow bridge and would say thanks to you for sure if he could speak. Hugs to you and your younger daughter.....
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
27 Feb 12
Thanks and don't worry yourself one bit about having been away. We sometimes have things that are going on and can't come here as much as we would like. Besides..you are right in the middle of living and that is what it is all about. We still miss him horribly and her worst time is at night because he slept and guarded her. When I would turn her light on in the morning and tell her to get up, he would start growling from under the cover. He was warm and cozy and didn't want any moving going on. His son had actually started attaching himself to her a week or two ago, which I thought was very odd, but he sleeps with her now sometimes. I think it helps. Thanks for the hugs and we did love him like he was part of the family.
• Lippstadt, Germany
29 Feb 12
hi dear Jen, lots of hugs back to you and your family now. Thats great to hear your other four legged friend got attached a bit more to your daughter now so its not that bad.......