Do we have a right to be offended?

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
April 1, 2011 10:42am CST
This comes from a bunch of different places. An online friend gets offended when a guy on a chat site calls her mom. A person from the Philippines gets offended when somebody posts a discussion about something that is a problem in their country. A person from India gets offended by a discussion telling Indians not to post discussions asking questions about Paypal. The common thread? I don't believe that in any of those three cases there was any intention to offend. But in all three cases, somebody got really offended. And I wonder, do people go into these things with a little old chip on the shoulder, almost as if they want to be offended so that they can blast off at somebody? Are they too sensitive? Are we dealing with cultural differences? Why don't people give other people the benefit of the doubt and try and work things out first? It's almost as if they feel they have a right to be offended at anything in the world that isn't the way they expect it to be...
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@cream97 (29087)
• United States
1 Apr 11
Hi. dawnald. In my own way of dealing with people, if I am offended, I will talk to them about how I feel. I will let them know how their words or statement has offended me. I don't think there is any reason for anyone to get offended by these three statements that you have posted here in your discussion. If someone intentionally tries to offend me personally, then that is when I will say what I have to say then. I don't cut any corners when it comes to this.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
Ah well a personal attack is different. If it really is a personal attack...
• Philippines
1 Apr 11
CNN hero of 2010 - Pena Florida.
Hello Dawnald, Regarding with the situation with Indian Lotter issue with paypal and lamby getting out of hand there, i think it was just a misunderstanding that one lotter took it's toll and asking for indian moral support in mylot regards to that issue. With regards to the Pagpag Issue, i think there was a misunderstanding with that issue also. though i understand some lotters who are not in that country tries to raise that issue. some are Offended because they know that they can't do a damn thing though some have done for their country as well. My point is that most foreigners (e.g. Indians or Filipinos) doesn't talk about Issues US, UK or any other country for that matter. but the ones living on that country starts opening it up, that's got them offended. i am sure US lotters doesn't like others from different country talking about US politics or how much americans should love obama, things like that. i remember one Fil-am lotter who engages a healthy debate regarding unemployment issue in the US, he got neg rated badly. As a Filipino, expect the negative impact if topics about pinoys started by foreigners. any attempt to challenge a filipino to do something for their country sometimes some people might actually consider it as an insult too since a lot are already doing something for the Philippines. most aren't seen by foreign media. except for Mr. Edwin Florida and his mobile (kariton) classroom. we just have to respect the fact that some filipino/others for that matter will indefinitely get offended. that's just to it.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
I have seen a lot of discussions where Americans have gotten offended when people from other countries started talking about our politics and so on, so it works both ways...
@GardenGerty (157562)
• United States
1 Apr 11
Being offended is a choice, just like all of our other attitudes. Mostly, I choose not to be offended, but then again, if I was offended, I would probably not put it out there for the whole world of the internet to see. People who were aware something bothered me might step it up and do it even more. I might give a private message, but still would not blast someone. I had someone get offended on my behalf one time, when I was not offended at all. I had to find a way to tell this person that 1. the comment was meant in kindness not sarcasm and 2. that was not the first person who called me that and 3. calling me grandma was meant to be respectful by this person from another country, I am old enough to be grandma to quite a few on here.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
I have a few friends on here who have been offended on my behalf too. Actually it's nice to have people looking out for me, even if they did take things the wrong way...
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@marguicha (215504)
• Chile
1 Apr 11
I have seen that people sort of LOVE to get offended when no offence was meant. So now I don´t comment here much about religion or politics (2 subjects I love to talk about). People get offented if the rest of the world does not think as they do. This is my second account here. The first one was deleted because I encountered a very rude person and told her she was being rude. I got deleted and lost my earnings. I came with new feathers and decided not to pursue the problem. I would NEVER post here anything about anything that is a problem in the US. I am sure a lot of my friends (let alone mylotters who are NOT friends) would get offended. I´d rather talk about it when my friends come to diner at home. Just look at Lamb´s and MsDianait´s star. They should have a 10 and yet... (dot dot dot)
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
Oh I didn't know you were here before... Well yeah I have seen where some Americans have gotten VERY offended when people from other countries posted things that were interpreted as US bashing.
@marguicha (215504)
• Chile
1 Apr 11
I know. Yet many of them are the same people that talk of other countries as if they knew everything. But that happens everywhere. There are those kind of people all over the world. I don´t even get into discussion here (so often posted!) about if it is better an arranged wedding or one for love. It all depends on our uses and besides people in the western hemisphere don´t only get married for love. THAT is Hollywood way back then.
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
1 Apr 11
Dawny, i don't ever get offended, BUT love to offend others. Good for my blood pressure. People should juts grow up and take it as it comes. To be offended about such small childlish things really make my nerves tense up. Not good for my health.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
I guess to them it isn't a small, childish thing...
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
1 Apr 11
most probably.
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@vandana7 (98854)
• India
1 Apr 11
Just confirming DUMB BLOND..
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@jujunme (2501)
• United States
1 Apr 11
Defensive, paranoid, suspicious, i would say all three of these things contribute to why certain people get offended at the slightest things said to or about them. Although i do agree some people are just looking for the opportunity to start an argument no matter what, in 2 of the 3 cases you mentioned, i believe it's more like being defensive and suspicious of anyone who isn't from their own country and so they believe they're being made fun of and become offended.Should they be?, of course not, especially when there was no intention or purpose to ridicule them in any way.but, unfortunately,we live in a world where sometimes there is very little trust between people of a different culture or country and i believe this is the main reason why some people seem to always have their guard up.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
Yeah that could be...
• United States
1 Apr 11
I think they All have th right to be offended. Everybody Has that right. But what do you do next? I think a understanding person would tell the other person that they were offended and Why. then if the person just laughs it off or is Still insensitive Then you walk away. But to get offeneded and then become a troll and try to make the other person'e life a livin hell is Way too much. I'm a very sensitive person. many thing offend me, especially when it is geared to a group I don't belong to. For example I would get pi$$ed off when others demean Catholics , even thoufgh I couldn't be Catholic , Ever. But I wouldn't make that person an enemy just because of a prejudged statyement. But I Will dem you an enememy if he Statement is personal amf geared at me or someone I love! To this day I haven't forgiven George Clooney for what he said about Davis Caruso. Both men patched things up Years and years ago but not me.
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• United States
2 Apr 11
Way back when Clooney was on ER and David had just left NYPD Blue Clooney said it was wrong for David to leave a t.v. show to make movies and then He Did it himself! I Hate hypocrites! And I Really resent his tone. So much so that it took me about a decade to even think of seeing any of his films.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
Goodness, what did Clooney say?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
Yeah, was probably just jealousy, and then when he got the opportunity, he jumped at it. People don't always think that people remember what they say.
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@derek_a (10874)
2 Apr 11
I would say that we have the right to be offended as we have the right to be pleased. it is not something that we can stop in a way. The way we share it though, is what makes a difference. If we attack, then I think this it not the way to go as then offensiveness gets into a loop, and doesn't get anywhere. To be able to examing our offence when we feel it, is a way to transcend it and learn about the way our minds are conditioned. In Zen, the aim is detachment, so that it is OK for anybody to be any way they are. This experience will diffuse many strained situations. _Derek
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@derek_a (10874)
2 Apr 11
As a Zen practitioner, I practice meditation every day on awakening. Many things go trhough my mind and sometimes anger and resentment (offence) may come up - but not so much these days. By focusing on this, I discover that it is due to my conditioning by the "rights and wrongs" of society that has been pushed into my mind since my earliest days. It's a complicated matter, but I didn't choose to react, but it chose me, if you can understand that. The only way to detach it to transcend but focusing on the "mecanics" of the mental procedures that are coming from the subconscious mind. By being aware of what is going on in the mind, it is like shinging a torch into dark corners that light it up and then through this process the mind lets go of it - it detaches, in the way I think and more importantly, the way I feel. All negative feelings them become neutralised. All is OK regardless of what has been or will be said on that particular matter. This can only be achieved experientially and meditation deals with experience of feelings, not just ideas. As I say, it is quite complicated to explain because it has to be felt and experienced by self-reflection through meditation practices. The is a link in my profile that explains the process of meditation more full. _Derek
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
Yeah, it gets into a loop all right, and then we have flame wars, and people getting really upset and nasty, and getting banned and so on...
@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
2 Apr 11
Detatchment? there is a way! so you detatch your self from other's in the way they think? or your thinking?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
1 Apr 11
I don't know them. The O'Ffended family. Are they Irish? People are too sensitive. I don't blame people for not being English. Somebody has to be Johnny Foreigner after all...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
1 Apr 11
Xenophobic? Me?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
1 Apr 11
I knew Phil O'Sophical. His sister Phyllis married one of the Tyne boys.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
Yeah, they're related to the O'Furniture family. You know, Paddy O'Furniture?
@much2say (53958)
• Los Angeles, California
2 Apr 11
I think everyone has a right to be offended. But certainly everyone needs to control their reactions to what offends them. Ok, one gets offended - speak up in a civil way, or eh, keep it to yourself. No need to fly off the handle or "go postal". Some people are more sensitive than others . . . what's offensive to some people may not be offensive to me. Yes, talking it out could help . . . it probably won't change anyones mind, but at least one could learn about the other point of view. Cultural difference is always a possibility . . . I see the use of the word "offended" when they probably mean something more like "annoyed". I have a friend who gets seriously offended when she get complimented just because she wears a dress to work (the feminist thing). Well, that's her right to feel that way - even though it's silly to me.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
Reminds me of somebody who came to work at Halloween dressed as Marilyn Monroe, and she got all these compliments, and was actually offended because she took it like they were telling her that she usually looks like crap or something.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
Now that would piss me off!
• United States
2 Apr 11
People today are simply way too sensitive dawnald, based on my own observations. I will share with you that in my 10 months here, this this be my 11th, but my first 3 months I was not at all active. However, I came on each and every day and read, read, read.. for several reasons firstly I honestly signed up to myLot thinking it was an article writing site. Immediately realized it was a discussion forum, which I was not interested in. So I read a lot, and studied the pattern and flow from my early membership dating back to the beginning of time. I did not participate but I read, based on my observations I was able to see who did what, although not really sure why, but I immediately figured out that it was absolutely no different from what I have seen in my entire offline line life. There are many factors to the why; personalities, language barriers, misunderstandings and just plain mean. I am by no means perfect nor do I try to perceive myself to be, but what I noticed is that yes perhaps some topics are sensitive and or taken sensitively but on the other hand too, what I mostly notice is that no one offers explanation, more like stronger attacks which of course leads to retaliation. Usually the initial sensitive person, for the lack of there of ends up leaving and still not understanding but more on the defense. I have been one to always give the benefit of the doubt especially when the language barrier is a factor, I can't begin to tell you how it gets taken out of content, but normally I come back and explain and usually all ends well. What I notice on many discussions that I do not participate but observe is that the OP at times does try to give the benefit of the doubt but does so a bit too strong and the person without the understanding gets stronger back. So it sort of is a two way street. Something I have learned from a member here, simply by her writing is that if we read and re-read there may be some truth and or understanding to end the misunderstanding. Something most do not do. *sad* Lastly some after carrying the chip/hassle continue to patronize so some members opt to leave and not deal with the pettiness, who can blame them. There are far greater issues offline that I am sure deserves more exertion.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
I usually manage to smooth things over when somebody has gotten offended over something I've said, but not always.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Apr 11
I agree with you and just wish it didn't have to be so hard to get along.
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@xannex (254)
• Philippines
1 Apr 11
I'm a filipino. I don't usually get offended unless the discussion is about the problem and not about the people in the Philippines. Example was the time when Philippines sufferred from 2 consecutive typhoon that lead to a very horrifying flood in 2009. A twitter user twitted about this issue and said that the monkeys are drowning. How can you not be offended by that. BTW this is the only event in the internet that I got offended.
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@marguicha (215504)
• Chile
1 Apr 11
The offender should be pitied. A person that says that is a pitiful example of the wordt in humankind.
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• Philippines
1 Apr 11
I've heard rumors that the person is a japenese or another Filipino pretending to be a South Korean twitterer. sometimes, we tend to over react and i hate to say it but it's our right. then there was this Korean actress mimicking Filipina teachers in a bad disgusting way, though her reasoning was attempting to make a joke, but the teachers took it badly. I pity those people too. actually, i stop hating or getting too sensitive when a group of Half-pinoys started hating pinoys in the Philippines after the Hostage Crisis that killed hongkong tourist. sometimes it needs deeper understanding trying to see the through the insult or racist remarks. actually, most remarks from US, or UK were more on criticism and not blunt useless race remarks.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
What a difference a few hours makes. At first I thought you were talking about actual monkeys. Wow, I would have been offended by that too. How nasty was that?
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• Philippines
2 Apr 11
I came from Philippines, and i read a lot of post about Philippines but i never get offended because that is one reality Filipinos have to accept it. Well Filipinos have different attitudes and view and feelings about our country. I only feel offended when i feel discriminated. ;)
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
Some messages are offensive though, and sometimes people just aren't careful how they word things. And some people just want to stir up trouble.
• Philippines
7 Apr 11
that is true, words are really sometimes making troubles and hurt our feelings but we are more affected if we always keep this thing up in our hearts.
@macayadann (1235)
• Philippines
2 Apr 11
these words; misconception, misleading,misunderstanding are not meant to offend.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
Not meant to, but people are sometimes offended even so...
• Philippines
5 Apr 11
You are right, it is hard to where you should stand just not to hurt the feelings of others and so feel the character of the person first before dealing a joke.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
12 Apr 11
I really like this question, and I have learned a lot of things about cultural diversity in the class I just finished. When you don't understand how people from other cultures think, you tend to try to make them just like yourself. This is not good because each culture has its own values and beliefs. If people were to take the time to learn about some of these value and belief structures of different cultures, the world could probably be a more peaceful place. So many times, little misunderstandings occur and people become offended and things really blow up! Although my class was aimed at teachers who are teaching culturally and linguistically diverse learners in the American education system, I think the information I learned could be equally applied to other situations. Perhaps a similar class should be REQUIRED of ALL politicians and business people throughout the world before people are allowed to run for office or work in another country. Even common people should have to have some knowledge of this information to prevent possible misunderstanding! Thanks for bringing this up!!!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Apr 11
People do tend to project their own expectations on other people, and then when they don't get the same thing back they are confused or even offended. I would love to see a class like that - for everybody! And if you're in public office, it should be repeated every so often.
@celticeagle (159105)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Apr 11
I think they do go in with a chip. They have had a bad experience or something so therefor they don't want the subject brought up. The mom that doesn't want to be called that-that could be because of vanity too. The common thread? We're all human with human frailties and traits that lead us and not much way to get around it.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
I guess that's why manners were invented...
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@celticeagle (159105)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Apr 11
And people don't really seem to care about eachothers feelings anymore. I think alot of people now days are selfish, self serving and tunnel visioned. I get irrate!
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@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
5 Apr 11
since we are all human, i guess we are. it is the sign that we have feelings and it is normal. if someone told me here that i am b1tch and big fat liar and i don't get offended, now that is strange for me.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Apr 11
Well if somebody told you that, of course you would get offended. But some people get offended at a lot less.
• United States
1 Apr 11
I hardly ever get offended by something somebody says on the internet. There are some things, heavy issues, that we can't talk about without offending somebody. But we should make an attempt to treat others with respect and dignity. The last time I remember being seriously offended was in a face-to-face conversation with someone who's really good at saying blunt and offensive things. I disagreed with him about the way he interpreted a scene in a film and I was going to explain why I disagreed with him when he interrupted by shouting, "Well, you read Twilight!" ... ... and therefore I'm stupid and that's why I can't see things your way?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Apr 11
And how was reading Twilight relevant, I wonder?
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• United States
2 Apr 11
It wasn't. lol Not in the least.
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@K46620 (1986)
• United States
4 Apr 11
Hmmm. Well, people certainly do have a right to be offended, but if they want to get nasty they can go somewhere else. MyLot has a right to delete their comments or account.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 11
good point
@asliah (11137)
• Philippines
7 Apr 11
hi, i think offend is depend upon the person on how can he/she absorb that,if he/she will allow it to affect his/her day.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Apr 11
Yes, I think it's a choice....