What can be done to make more Americans use public transport?
By John Welford
@indexer (4852)
Leicester, England
October 14, 2015 12:59pm CST
Public transport systems (buses, trains and trams) are used by vast numbers of people in European cities and to get from city to city, but it appears that enthusiasm is far less in the United States.
One reason would appear to be scarcity of services, but that is surely a function of demand - if the demand existed, companies would make good money by supplying that demand.
However, another reason seems to be social - use of public transport seems to be an admission of failure - only poor people use buses because they can't afford their own cars.
Cities in Europe are geared to public transport, with bus routes and train and tram lines being factored in to any new development. However, American cities seem to be built around the private car, even to the extent that it is virtually impossible to make certain journeys unless you have your own car.
If we are going to "green" our cities, public transport will have to play a major role - but will Americans accept this?
Or have I got it all wrong?
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21 responses
@crazyhorseladycx (39503)
• United States
14 Oct 15
i've yet to figure why ya bash us americans all the time?? 's fer public transport - many 'f us live in less populated areas'n yerself. heck, there aint e'en a taxi cab in these parts.
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@GardenGerty (169489)
• United States
14 Oct 15
I have moved to a town of 400 people. I should be able to walk downtown, but there is little there. If I need essential services I need to drive a ways. I try to plan trips to include several things to save on gas.
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@crazyhorseladycx (39503)
• United States
15 Oct 15
@dawnald perhaps ya should peruse through the responses below?

@Dragonairy1 (1722)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
15 Oct 15
It's not just America there are places in the Uk where it would take hours to get from A to B by bus, but only 15 minutes by car, not everywhere is big cities with great transport links.
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@artemeis (4189)
• China
18 Oct 15
I have to add here that the bus transportation cannot simply increase according to the demands of the people living in the area or cities because city planners will have to consider the consequences these increases will have consequences to the city's limited infrastructures. In some cities or countries, it has become normal to have bus lanes on their roads and it can cause congestion to other motored devices like the automobiles.
So it is really not so simple and the more affluent the city the less demand for public transportation like the bus and the city planners concern will emphasize more on car owners.
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@Dragonairy1 (1722)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
15 Oct 15
@indexer That's true, but sadly it never seems to be a priority for the government.

@TiarasOceanView (70020)
• United States
18 Oct 15
Americans will not give up their cars period.
I actually love the transport system here though.
Dont drive.
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@yukimori (10192)
• United States
14 Oct 15
My city simply doesn't have much public transportation. We have a short bus that makes a circuit around some of the local attractions. That's it.
I think a big deterrent in some of the areas that do have public transit like buses is simply the fact that they're unreliable. I can't tell you how many posts I've seen from a friend who relies on taking the bus to work commenting on how late it is, that the bus he was on broke down, that it simply drove past without stopping where it was supposed to... It sure makes me not want to take the bus in his area. Not to mention the fact that temperatures in that area routinely get up to 120 F in the summer... waiting for the bus in that heat is probably absolutely miserable.
I'd love to see more public transportation options become available in my area, but there isn't demand for it because everyone owns cars out of necessity. The area isn't even well suited to bicycling, since drivers are so intolerant of cyclists on the road.
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@GardenGerty (169489)
• United States
14 Oct 15
@indexer in some of the slightly larger communities small buses have become more or less an industry. One county will pick you up anywhere in the county. In another town one of the adult disabled agency has turned this into a money maker. They have "people mover" type buses and scheduled routes. They transport their adult disabled clients and also stop at various shopping centers and apartments for paying passengers.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Oct 15
@GardenGerty we haved that here for disable people like me called Access bus and they take us to the door ofour apts and brings us home to o ur doors. also ther drivers are mostly older people so they are very ik ind and helpful to us
@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
15 Oct 15
You get it wrong, some American cities are so vast that being without a car is impossible. Not only, but there are many rural areas where you can find a big farm and nothing else. Do you believe that someone would take care to create a public transport for two houses and ten people? Surely not!
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@OneOfMany (12150)
• United States
15 Oct 15
Don't forget that having the ability to construct the rail lines and the routes are needed as well. Look at the various countries of Europe, and especially Japan during World War 2. Because of all the destruction it was much easier to build in areas that were congested before, and to build rail lines that would have been choked by civilization. In America, the citiies and towns are in place, which eliminates the ability to build long lines to the most populated areas, unless eminent domain is put in place and they seize all sorts of property to build it.
I would love a high speed trail system to get from place to place, but I would have to travel hours by car to get to any place that offers it. This isn't Europe where you can get from country to country in a day, this is a place where getting across one state can take 8 hours of driving. Flying connects one place to the next easily, but it keeps getting more expensive with worsening conditions.
You ask why we don't use mass transportation, but what you should be asking is if we'd use it if we could build an efficient system without destroying our infrastructure and rebuilding. Even underground tunneling projects in different cities have met unexpected hurdles that stop the project (such as the borer running into a buried locomotive engine). And of course, who wants to travel hours and hours to their destination under ground?
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@Lushlala (4028)
• Gaborone, Botswana
25 Oct 15
@indexer When I lived in London, I actually liked to get around on the tube. They ran better than the buses and overground, very rarely late. My main problem with the tube is that it gets crammed full of bodies, get TOO hot under there, especially in the summer and I always feel very grotty when I've been on it LOL You should see the amount of soot that comes out of your nose, from being on the tube!
@OneOfMany (12150)
• United States
15 Oct 15
@indexer I'm not talking about under cities or under the sea, I'm talking about from one coast of the US to the other, not an hour or two, but hours and hours! Especially with stops. :D
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@cmoneyspinner (9218)
• Austin, Texas
17 Oct 15
What can be done to make more Americans use public transport?
Well for starters, government officials in charge of transportation could ensure that reliable public transportation exists! They don't have it in Austin, Texas.
Yeah that's right! I'm calling out the ATX folks in charge of public transport. Transportation in this city sucks!!!
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@antonbunot (11146)
• Calgary, Alberta
15 Oct 15
Donald Trump, if voted president, promised to add more c-trains like those bullet trains in Japan! So, vote for Donald. 

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@sallypup (69205)
• Centralia, Washington
14 Oct 15
I wish my part of the world had better ways for the people to get around. Especially in the winter. It sure would be nice if someone got tour trips going so that folks could get rides to the bigger world on the other side of the mountains. Money. It takes money.
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@BACONSTRIPSXXX (18114)
• Torrington, Connecticut
14 Oct 15
I used to take the train when I would live in Nyc but I wasnt a fan of public transportation
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@ElizabethWallace (12069)
• United States
15 Oct 15
Convenience is a big part of the deal. In California, we had a huge public transportation system that took people everywhere. It was called the Red Car and was electric. The system was purchased in the 1950's by oil and car manufacturing interest,s and the cars dropped into the Santa Monica Bay. Now, the public transportation system in California can take a few people to a few places. I tried, but could not find a way to get from home to work, so I commuted and hour each way for years.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Oct 15
America is usually the country that does most of the campaigning for environmental conservation, yet the biggest culprit. It is so standard for Americans to have 2 cars per family that it is often viewed as a basic essential.
No president would ever dream of raising the taxes on gasoline in order to reduce consumption, because he would find himself out of office in a very short time.
@indexer (4852)
• Leicester, England
14 Oct 15
Hence Americans have absurdly cheap motor fuel - although they don't see it that way!
@GardenGerty (169489)
• United States
14 Oct 15
I think you have analyzed the situation very well. Especially in more western locations we do not have much public transport, or as dense a population. Our self image of being independent and self reliant makes us cling to our cars.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Oct 15
In so uth dakota there are grey hound buses and trail wa s b ut no city buses in a lot of townsbut Rapid City does have a good bus system really
@artemeis (4189)
• China
19 Oct 15
It is also on the city management to be able to provide the essential public transportation at where it is needed most. I had the experience of seeing many a times how bus stops could be placed at inconvenient and inaccessible places for the commuters.
Traffic congestion is another consideration where it is very rampant with big cities where car population can be quite considerable and it would be not only inconvenient to travel by bus but uncomfortable to dangerous to commute on this mode of transportation.
Then there is the network and routing issues where commuters would find it more challenging than convenient to travel on.
@pahak627 (5347)
• Philippines
14 Oct 15
We, non-americans know that in your country, cars and other vehicles are not expensive. An average american can afford to buy one because it is one of your most important item in every household. In our country, having cars and vehicles is already very luxurious. An average filipino can not afford to buy their own cars.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Oct 15
no wrong there cars here are not cheap at all thats why poorer people use the buses
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Oct 15
@pahak627 iam truly sorry @pakhak526 wiksh there was something I cvood do to help your situation
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@Lushlala (4028)
• Gaborone, Botswana
25 Oct 15
Americans sound like people here, if we're to go off your analysis. Nobody wants to go on public transport because it gives the impression you've fallen on hard times. Granted, the public transport here is in all likelihood, far worse than in the US. People always seem shocked that I don't drive, as almost everyone owns a car, and it's a lot easier to just drive as we don't really have a proper transport system. Although the UK public transport system is poor, we still got around just fine. Eventually LOL
@ricki_911 (21625)
• Toronto, Ontario
15 Nov 15
We don;t have any system as this here. It's either walking for hours, biking for hours, or driving for 20 minutes. I will walk, or bike where I can during the summer months. But in -50C I don't plan on walking it.





















