Who the heck are the "black Hebrew Israelites"? And how are they involved in the "spoiled white Catholic kid" v. "Native American Vietnam veteran" standoff?

@TheHorse (206304)
Walnut Creek, California
January 22, 2019 11:22pm CST
I can't believe anything I read or hear any more. Did Donald Trump really consider inviting the Catholic kids who harassed a Native American Vietnam Veteran to the White House? But wait! Did Barak Obama really invite the clock-bomb kid to the White House? I couldn't believe that one either. And who the hell are the "Black Hebrew Israelites"? Did a small group of them really call the Catholic school kids "cracker," and other racist insults? Is this captured on video? I tried to investigate where in Israel the "Black Hebrew Israelites" are from. One article said they're not even from Israel! What the heck am I to believe? I think I'm going to climb back into my man cave and write music about peace and love. I no longer believe anything I believe in the press, whether it comes from CBS, FOX, or the smug son-of-a-b*tches at NPR. Read this if you dare.
The abrasive, End Times preaching that preceded the standoff is typical daily fare for Black Israelites.
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@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
23 Jan 19
It looks like the Native American guy was the one doing the harassment from all of the more recent reports. Videos on youtube seem to back this up. The left wing media seem to be in the process of a massive climbdown on this story when it was revealed the Catholic students were pretty much minding their own business when this guy approached them from a fair distance away and started banging his drum about six inches from the young lad's face. I think he showed remarkable restraint to not have inserted the drumstick where the sun doesn't shine. Apparently the Native American guy is a well known left wing activist who served in the army during the period of the Vietnam war but never actually made it to Vietnam so a Vietnam veteran he ain't. Edit: Somebody pulled his military records. Apparently he was a rifleman for 2 days and then became a refrigerator mechanic spending his entire service in Lincoln, Nebraska and El Toro, California. Most reports do suggest that the Black Hebrew Israelites were shouting racist abuse at the Catholic schoolchildren but I've not seen any video evidence of this.
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@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
23 Jan 19
@TheHorse Having seen quite bit of footage it seems clear to me that the Native American guy had a problem with the obviously conservative schoolchildren. I know that if I was trying to protect someone I wouldn't be in their face. I would be in the face of the aggressors. To me it looked like this guy saw the MAGA hats and deliberately tried to provoke a reaction so he could play the race card! When the hoped for reaction didn't come, the media invented it.
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@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
23 Jan 19
@Susan2015 I must admit I didn't hear any of that but then again I wasn't listening for it. Personally I think the young lads handled themselves exceptionally well and should be held up as examples of how to behave in the face of provocation not vilified for something they didn't even do.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Everyone will try to paint themselves as innocents. I herd (that's a typo, but I leave it in there as poetic license) that the Native American guy tried to put himself between the rough-talking Israelites and they young boys. I am disappointed that he (the Native American fella) wasn't a real Vietnam vet.
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@LadyDuck (458952)
• Switzerland
23 Jan 19
For what I have read on the European newspaper the Native American was the harassing one. He is not even a real Veteran as he was described at first. My grandmother used to tell me that newspapers were only good to wrap fish at the market. Now we have Internet and the media are even worse.
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@LadyDuck (458952)
• Switzerland
24 Jan 19
@TheHorse Twain knew plenty of things, you surely know his famous quote: “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.”
@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Jan 19
If you're interested in a short and amusing read, check out Mark Twain's "How I Edited an Agricultural Paper." Twain was aware of how much of media was BS more than 100 years ago.
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@BarBaraPrz (45574)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
23 Jan 19
I prefer my fiction clearly labeled as such.
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@BarBaraPrz (45574)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
24 Jan 19
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Jan 19
Both FOX news and CBS and the others should put disclaimers at the beginnings of their shows: For Entertainment Value Only.
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@jstory07 (134528)
• Roseburg, Oregon
23 Jan 19
The whole thing is nothing but stupid. I will go read it now.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
Maybe it's just more "manufactured news" that gives both CBS and FOX some views, and has little to do with our day-to-day experiences.
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@jstory07 (134528)
• Roseburg, Oregon
23 Jan 19
@TheHorse I agree,
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
@jstory07 We'll see what happens next.
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@wolfgirl569 (95595)
• Marion, Ohio
23 Jan 19
I have no idea who they are. Just another group wanting attention is my guess.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
Perhaps just a non-story turned into a story by the press. And of course, politicized by all sides.
@JudyEv (326093)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Jan 19
My Mum used to say she would like to live on a desert island, just by herself. I think I might try to find me one too.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
Heh. I Have created my own private Montana. I definitely stay away from marches and protests.
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@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
28 Jan 19
They're (The "Hebrew Isralites") basically a group of morons that claim everybody elses history as their own and say that those people stole it from them. First they were the "real" Egyptians, then they figured it was cool to be Native American so they started claiming themselves as the "real" Native Americans. I guess next they will be the "real" ham n cheese sandwhich
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• United States
28 Jan 19
@TheHorse They're all over Youtube. You can find them out in the streets in some places "preaching". They think white people are demon possessed or the devil himself
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Jan 19
@cupkitties That doesn't sound very nice. White people can't just "convert" to being black Israelites, can they?
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Jan 19
How come they haven't gotten more attention, as it seems that they started this who media frenzy by calling the white boys bad names. Well, maybe attention is what they're after.
@vandana7 (98928)
• India
3 Mar 19
Did you hear of 10 lost tribes? Some of them are said to be in India, and yes dark skinned. You all got bleached later.
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@vandana7 (98928)
• India
7 Mar 19
@TheHorse Depends ..which country manufactured the bleach. Evil Grin. Logically, you all were fairly dark. If you all were fair, Moses would be easily identifiable and princess would not have managed to save him. After all, Egyptians were portrayed as fairly dark folks in their paintings. I also find it hard to believe that they would not have considered white race to be superior in some ways. So what bleach are you using hero? Evil Grin.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Mar 19
@vandana7 Why would they have considered it superior? I've always assumed people of pallor got that way by moving further from the equator.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 Mar 19
How many centuries does it take to get bleached?
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
23 Jan 19
The only black Hebrews i know are Ethiopian Jews or Beta Israel that I had read about a long time ago. Agree it would be better if you just write music on peace.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
23 Jan 19
@TheHorse they love to create new lost tribes
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
Yes, those are the ones I had heard of as well.
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@Fleura (29219)
• United Kingdom
23 Jan 19
Goodness knows! There is a legend that various peoples in parts of Africa such as Ghana, Cameroon and Ethiopia I think, are descended from the lost tribes of Israel, but I can't imagiine what they have to do with this. As for inviting them to the White House, I dread to think what Trump would say to them there - probably give them a pat on the back!
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@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
23 Jan 19
Read my response to this discussion. All is not as the left wing media are trying to portray!!
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 19
If they're Jews, then they would follow the laws of Judaism. But it sounds like they're "fringe" group with some wacky notions.
@just4him (306881)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jan 19
I don't believe anything I hear on the news either.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Jan 19
A funny premise of Men in Black was that only the tabloids can be trusted. I liked that movie.
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@just4him (306881)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
25 Jan 19
@TheHorse I've never seen it. They're probably more factual than the news. I don't read them either.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 19
@just4him Oh, the were (are) funny. I loved Weekly Word News.
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@pjmurphy (2500)
• United States
23 Jan 19
The clock-bomb kid was not a bomber. I don't know if Obama invited him to the White House or not but he did speak out in support of him when he was falsely accused. These are two completely different type of kids and different types of incidents. So comparing them is a little misleading. There is much fake news out there but there are also plenty of reliable news sites. There is a difference between reporters and talking heads. The article you shared in an example of good reporting from what I consider to be a reliable news source. I learned something by reading it.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Jan 19
But as more information comes out, will the story stand? I'm not comparing the Clock Bomb Kid story directly with this one. But I DO want to concede that there are differences in the way stories are initially presented (by both Righty FOX and the Lefty Media) and what actually happened once more information comes out. Of what was the Clock Bomb Kid Falsely accused? As it turned out, he was just a pawn in his nutty father's game. But he DID defy his teachers, and that's naughty.
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@pjmurphy (2500)
• United States
24 Jan 19
@TheHorse Well, if we're thinking about the same story, I think the clock bomber was taken in to custody and suspected of a crime, having a bomb, a story that proved false. And maybe a result of his being Muslim and Texan at the same time. The MAGA kids were just accused of being obnoxious. Maybe everyone else there was obnoxious also, but that doesn't excuse their behavior, especially as they were representing their school. And I'm a native Kentuckian and they made our state look bad. But then I wouldn't like anyone wearing MAGA hats and chanting 'build that wall'. So I bring my own prejudices to this discussion as, it seems, do most other people. I still believe there are good news sources. Most of the articles I saw promoting the unfairness with which these MAGA kids were portrayed were suspect.
@Hannihar (129530)
• Israel
25 Jan 19
@TheHorse I cannot answer anything here but about the Black Hebrews. These are people that came to Israel saying they are the black Hebrews and they are not Jews at all. The only black People that come to live in Israel are Ethiopians and they are true Jews from the tribe of Menasha.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 19
Thank you. This is useful information. Is the tribe of Menasha one of the original twelve tribes?
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@Hannihar (129530)
• Israel
27 Jan 19
@TheHorse I thought I would look up the information and put it here for you about Menasha. According to the Hebrew Bible, the Tribe of Manasseh (/m?'næs?/; Hebrew: ??? ?????????, Modern: Shevat Menashe, Tiberian: Sheva? M?naššé, "who makes to forget") was one of the Tribes of Israel. It is one of the ten lost tribes. Together with the Tribe of Ephraim, Manasseh also formed the House of Joseph.
@porwest (78759)
• United States
23 Jan 19
Oh man, don't do this to me. Do you even care to know the truth? First of all, the "honorable" native American was accosting the kids. He is also lying about having served in Vietnam. The whole thing is a sham and the kids are innocent. The real villain IS the native American. PLEASE do some research on this. PLEASE! Even your friends on THE VIEW had to come out and say, "How did we get this wrong," to which Joy Behar replied, "We just want to get Trump out of office and so we will go with ANYTHING to do that, even if it is not true." Libs have literally LOST their minds, and it is beginning to take its toll on the entire liberal/democrat credibility. Even with the immigration thing...the dems are out there saying "those poor government workers are not getting paychecks, shame on Trump." The republicans put out a bill to PAY the workers, and the democrats REJECTED IT. ONLY 6 democrats voted yes. But THEY will not tell you that.
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• United States
23 Jan 19
Is there any video of the Native American saying or doing anything violent to those "kids", who were laughing and jumping around as he beat his drum? They were jumping around and laughing like out of control dogs while the Native American was, yes, singing and beating his drum in their loud and disrespectful faces.The chaperones were extremely neglectful, but I'm sure those private schools brats aren't used to not getting their way
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Jan 19
@porwest Did the Lefty media admit it yet (assuming what you say is true)? Do you remember the Travon Martin fiasco? The media never completely owned up to the fact that they got the story wrong. I'm not sure if they "came clean" about the Clock Bomb Kid or not.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
24 Jan 19
@spicysweetie21 There is video. Yes. I do not have a link. But there is. And every liberal media has had to come out and say they got it wrong. Look it up. Please do. The entire thing has been debunked. The entire thing.
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@JWMILLER (3280)
• Westmoreland, Tennessee
23 Jan 19
Be careful with 'facts' these days. About 40% of the 'facts' on the internet are LIES.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Jan 19
Just as exactly 59% of all percentages and other statistics are lies. Heh.
• United States
28 Apr 19
well i only read the title becuz your topic may have been 2 surrwal when it comes to the war on religion just kill everybody