Observing an 18-month-old boy react to an autistic 4-year-old girl.

@TheHorse (238356)
Walnut Creek, California
January 6, 2021 4:01pm CST
A couple of months ago, I mentioned a 4-year-old autistic girl I was working with at my friend's preschool. That girl disappeared about a month-and-a-half ago, and returned today. In the interim, I have become buddies with a new kid--an 18-month-old boy who is very verbal. It was interesting watching him react to her as they shared a small plastic slide in the classroom today. He nonverbally invited her to slide with him, and when she displayed "flat affect" (no expression) in response to his social gesture, he was visibly surprised. After that moment he tracked her with his eyes for several seconds, looking perplexed, and even a tiny bit afraid. In that moment I (an experimental psychologist by training) started generating hypotheses about the self-fulfilling prophecy aspect of the social isolation of autistic kids. Have you worked with or had experience with autistic individuals?
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@sallypup (69220)
• Centralia, Washington
6 Jan 21
One of my family member's boy is autistic. I entered their house. He hit me with a slipper.
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@sallypup (69220)
• Centralia, Washington
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse I have hardly been around the boy. The last time I saw him he stayed in his Mom's car, blanket over his head, while Mom and I went for a nature walk with our dogs.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
@sallypup How old is he now?
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
Have you been able to "relate" to him in other ways?
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
6 Jan 21
Yes I have know a few
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse They are difficult to make eye contact with. They react differently. They can move in a way you least expect. Like that girl, she came with her sister and mother. And suddenly she chose to sleep on her mother's lap.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
What was the experience like? Did you try to "relate" to them?
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse yes, she lives in one of the rentals. I talk to her Everytime I go there. No eye contact from her
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@LadyDuck (502738)
• Italy
7 Jan 21
NO, I never met autistic children, I have no experience at all.
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@LadyDuck (502738)
• Italy
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse What I have read is to create a "non verbal" way to communicate and be consistent. I do not believe I could be of help.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
I have to admit that working with them is a bit frustrating for me. I do try to find and enter "their world," but I never fully feel I have a "relationship" with them.
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@LadyDuck (502738)
• Italy
9 Jan 21
@TheHorse All children need attention from their parents, those with problems need even more.
@rakski (156709)
• Philippines
7 Jan 21
I encountered some classmates of my son. His bestfriend Donnie do not talk to anyone but my son. My son was able to encourage him to dance since they become buddies. He does not reply much to his teacher. My son has a mild autism, high functioning but his defiance is way too high.
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@rakski (156709)
• Philippines
8 Jan 21
@TheHorse yes, he likes routines. I need to set his mind first ahead of time to get a new routine done. But he can now easily adjust when routine is broken. He fairly adjust now compared before.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
@rakski That's good to hear!
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
Kids with mild autism (in my experience) like "routines" and can get really frustrated when their routine is "broken."
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@JudyEv (382457)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Jan 21
I know several with what used to be termed Asberger's. I don't know what they call it now. And I'm curious - what are you standing on? Is it something to do with stockyards?
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
Heh. Yes, a friend and I went hiking and stopped to take pictures at this old ranch. I think the structure I'm standing on was used to load cattle into trucks.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
@JudyEv I can't remember for sure, but I think the ground entrance was behind me, and then the cow would have to make a right turn (to the left in the photo), behind that wall, to be loaded up. I was there again a couple of weeks ago with a different friend but didn't check. Next time I will.
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@JudyEv (382457)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse I would have thought a cattle loading ramp but part of the sides are missing. Maybe the trucks have gates at the back that swing out and provide the sides for that small gap.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse No, I have not. Did you find out where she disappeared to?
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
No, I really don't know. Her little sister is with us as well. She is 2 1/2, has really high cognitive functioning, and talks up a storm.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
@Hannihar It brings me joy.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse She sounds adorable. So how do you feel about helping those kids?
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@kaylachan (84867)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
6 Jan 21
I knew a few. And, unless they mentioned something to me, I would never had known. They were on the higher end of the spectrum so unless you were around them enough or they told you, it would be hard to notice.
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@kaylachan (84867)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse I am not surprised one bit. Young children are difficult to diagnose, because they are all over the place in general. Sounds like she's looking for an excuse to cover up bad parenting.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
With this child you would notice it immediately. She flaps her hands (repetitive behavior) and shows no outward "affect."
@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
I have a cousin who is convinced that her two daughters suffer from mild autism. I am not so sure.
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@Tina30219 (82978)
• Onaway, Michigan
7 Jan 21
Yes I have experience with Autistic kids my son is Autistic he can talkmthough he is 28 years old and Inhave been around his classmates when he was in school.
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@Tina30219 (82978)
• Onaway, Michigan
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse Yeah once the teacher told me what they liked and did not like I was. Maybe ask others that know the child what she likes and don’t.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
@Tina30219 I will just be a "neutral stimulus" and interact with her as she wants to interact.
@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
Were you able to connect with some of the kids/adults? I am NOT an expert in autism but I do try to find their "safety zone" and join them there. I'm going to see if this little girl responds to music.
@rebelann (117269)
• El Paso, Texas
7 Jan 21
I have never encountered autistic people but I have read that they are generally non violent.
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@rebelann (117269)
• El Paso, Texas
7 Jan 21
That sounds scary @TheHorse
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
@rebelann Yeah. I'm pretty good at non-violent conflict resolution. But I can't say I "enjoyed" my outings with this particular kid a much as with most of the kids I work with.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
Well, they can have some pretty serious tantrums and throw things around. I worked with one teenage autistic who loved violent video games more than anything else. And his mom told me he sometimes hit her. He was sullen on our outings but not violent with me.
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@marlina (154103)
• Canada
6 Jan 21
No, I never worked with autistic children, can't be easy
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
I have to admit that I find it difficult.
@Tampa_girl7 (54730)
• United States
7 Jan 21
I have a loved one who has Asperger’s. Are you familiar with this ?
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
I am. What are his or her favorite subjects to "discuss"?
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@LindaOHio (222726)
• United States
7 Jan 21
No, I've never met an autistic person.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
One of my most interesting experiences was with an adult with Asperger's. He knew he had it, warned me that he would start blabbing about WWII history, and then proceeded to do exactly that!
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@LindaOHio (222726)
• United States
8 Jan 21
@TheHorse They are very high-functioning, right?
@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
6 Jan 21
A friend from over the years had an autistic child. Very sweet.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
What were the child's "links" to other people. This 4-year-old responds to deep hugs. I want to try music on her.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
@CarolDM Got it.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
7 Jan 21
@TheHorse I wasn't around her much to say.
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@Giannna (1038)
• Novi Sad, Serbia
6 Jan 21
Pure children souls
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
That's the attitude I go in with. Manifestations of God.
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@Giannna (1038)
• Novi Sad, Serbia
7 Jan 21
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@prinzcy (32299)
• Malaysia
7 Jan 21
There are autistic children in my brother's school. But I never interact with them directly. I found these children, not just autism but others as well, have the purest soul. They care for their friends a lot. During fasting month, we didn't provide Lil Bro with food. Lil Bro was excited to start fasting as well. But when he got back from school that day, he's no longer fasting. Turn out his friends can't understand why he's not eating. They gave their food to him.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
I am amazed by the empathy of younger children. Psychologists underestimated them for years. Actually, autistic kids often struggle with empathy. They often don't read social cues well.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
7 Jan 21
Not that I know what autism is exactly to speak of experience. I do understand how 18 months kids would be though. Exactly friendly and thinking the whole world loves them and wants to play with them. The closest I came across was a girl child who was the younger sister of a girl who worked with a hawker out here. She came to my place for studying some. Then was married off.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
8 Jan 21
@TheHorse Eye to eye contact was an issue. I gave her mother something to eat, she was not keen and went straight for sleeping on her lap. The older one who was my student was embarrassed as the dress went up and scolded her. I then understood how much patience is needed to look after children like that. Not sure she would be classified autistic. But then, I am not a psychologist.
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Jan 21
Did the child have "issues"?
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
@vandana7 "Dress went up"?
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@Deepizzaguy (122305)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
8 Jan 21
My nephew who is 18 years of age is autistic..
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
9 Jan 21
@Deepizzaguy Can he describe his "strategies"?
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@TheHorse (238356)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Jan 21
Is he high functioning? I work with a 20-something girl with autism who loves horses and wanted to be a vet tech. But she can't really do science. Still she's a teacher's aide at a preschool. It's perfect for her.
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@Deepizzaguy (122305)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
8 Jan 21
@TheHorse My nephew can only speak a few words but he is very smart when it comes to playing card games on a computer.
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