Dogs In The Heat - I left a friends house as I didn't like her dogs behaviour!

@ellie333 (21029)
May 15, 2008 6:04am CST
In recent days it has been extremely hot here in the UK. I love dogs but at present haven't got one. I popped into a friends on the way back from school with my son for a catch up chat as we haven't seen each other for a while and as it was very hot we sat in the garden. She has a Rottweiller puppy who is already 6 stone in weight, lovely dog but he kept playfully nipping at my son, my son was getting upset and wanted the dog to leave him alone. I was getting uncomfortable because dogs can be unpredictable in the heat. My mother was in fact savaged by one she had known all her life and had to have reconstructive surgery on her face and she is a dog owner herself even now and this was because it was a very hot day. I said to my friend that I would go home as I was feeling uncomfortable and she said you have nothing to worry about he is only playing. Would you have left? Do you think I was being paranoid? Please share your thoughts and feelings on this or any stories you would like to share. Ellie :D
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
15 May 08
Ellie I must confess that whilst I love dogs I am always very very cautious around Rottweilers, Dobermans and Staffies. Personally, I feel that your friend should have noticed your edginess and put the dog away. You never know how the dog might react and a 6 stone dog like that could have inflicted some serious damage to your son. He probably was only playing, but that can easily get out of hand. It's your friend's house and all that, but if you felt concerned, and she wasn't bothered, I too would have left.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Thanks P1ke, My gut feeling told me to leave he is usually ok but he was behaving not as he usually would and I was on guard because of this so I just couldn't relax. I would have left whatever the breed of dog and I really feel the heat was a factor. Rather be safe than sorry eh! Ellie :D
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
15 May 08
Moopile. I am sure that he is. I know one that is also. I also have known some that weren't. I would never leave a child with one, no matter how sweet.
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
15 May 08
That's good to hear. I don't have a down on the dogs. Quite the opposite in fact. I had a Staffie live with me for a while whilst its owners were abroad. It never bit me on purpose but it could get very excited and its play nips could be painful. It also chased sheep which is something that I shall be ashamed about for the rest of my life. It didn't catch one fortunately, but it nearly killed me running around the field after the blooming thing!
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@spalladino (17924)
• United States
15 May 08
Your friend should have put the dog away as soon as you indicated that you were uncomfortable with the dog around you and your child. I don't think you were being paranoid. You were being cautious and being a good mother because you did not know that dog and that dog did not know you. Dog are animals and any dog can act in an unpredictable manner if something scares/angers/upsets him. Your friend should have been more considerate of your feelings.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Hi spalladino. Thank you for your thoughts on this one. She did in fact put him in when initally but he pushed the door back open and started nipping again so it was at that moment that I chose for us to leave. My gut feeling said to go so I did and like you say they can be very unpredictable. Ellie :D
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@jillhill (37383)
• United States
15 May 08
Nope....you weren't being paranoid....you were being careful. My son's dog is tempermental that way and they are talking about getting rid of her. She plays but ocassionally nips the little one when the play gets too rough. Animals can never be trusted one hundred percent so you were justified in leaving if you felt uncomfortable.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Thanks Jill, I just had a gut feel that day as he seemed agitated with the heat so I took my son away from any potential danger. I have been round today whilst my son was at school and the dog layed on my feet the whole time, but I really felt the heat had become a problem and I did in fact reinforce this when I went to see my friend. Ellie :D
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@stephcjh (32327)
• United States
15 May 08
I think that I would have left also. Rottweiller dogs are very vicious and they cannot be trusted for nothing. I don't care if it was just a puppy or not. I would not take any chances either. I would have picked my child up also and left. You did the right thing. I do not think you were paranoid at all.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Hi Steph, Thanks for agreeing with me on this one. It was better for me to leave and my son be safe than for us all to be sorry eh, any dog can be unpredictable in heat no matter what the breed. Ellie :D
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@ejaji123 (96)
• India
15 May 08
Well, if I were in your place then yes, i probably would have left. Why? Well, first of all, a dog is a dog and, though I like pets, but i realize they can be unpredictable. My cousin has a dog and, every time we go to their house, the dog bites us (small bite). Then my cousin says that, "don't worry, we have given him rabies shots, etc." Still, i don't think that's a good enough excuse to keep getting bitten. Secondly, the fact that it was just not you who you were worried about, it was also your son. It's normal to feel careful and cautious where one's children are concerned. So that was your maternal instinct talking too. Thirdly, your friend's behavior was also not right. i mean, if someone has a guest in their house, and their guest says they're not comfortable with something, it's the person's duty to try to correct that. Your friend should have said "Okay, let me take the dog inside" or something like that. So, in summary, you're not paranoid and I would felt exactly as you did, and probably would have left if I was uncomfortable but still my friend didn't move the dog away.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Hi Thanks for your confirmation that I did do the right thing. No it is not right for your cousins dog to bite or any dog and it shouldn't be laughed off it should be dealt with. My friend did put the dog in but he pushed the door back open and came out again. It was easier and safer to leave I think. Ellie :D
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@gemini_rose (16194)
15 May 08
The trouble with puppies is they are nippers anyway, and rottweillers can tend to get a bit carried away. I had a rottweiller cross, and while she was the most kind natured dog you could imagine, when she was play fighting with anyone she would get carried away and nip really hard. Any dog is unpredictable in the heat, and around children, no matter how good natured or kind they may appear. When anyone with children used to come around to my house the first thing I would do is put the dog in my bedroom, I just did not trust her 100% not to get carried away. So if you had of come to my house, and it was my dog and you were not comfortable with my dog I would have put her away until you had gone. So no I do not think you were being paranoid, and I do not blame you for leaving either.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Thanks Gemini_rose. When I had my labs I also used to put them out when people were around with children even though they too were both really friendly and loving. Jason as he got older was a bit of a grumpy old man so for their sake too just in case they got trodden on or something as Duke had a hip problem bless. I am usually fine round there but he was being extra boisterous and my son was getting agitated so better to be safe than sorry eh! Thanks for sharing. Ellie :D
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@newtondak (3950)
• United States
16 May 08
A responsible pet owner trains their pet to behave appropriately. If the pet can't behave around guests, especially children, the animal should be confined to another area for the duration of the visit.
@ellie333 (21029)
16 May 08
This dog does go to training classes he was just very naughty due to the heat so to be on the safe side as I know some dogs can be unpredictable I removed my son from the situation. I had two dogs and would always put out if I had visitors especially ones with children. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this one. Ellie :D
@newtondak (3950)
• United States
16 May 08
You did the right thing. Your friend was a bad hostess and an irresponsible pet owner.
@kaysue4 (951)
• United States
16 May 08
Dogs, no matter what kind can be unpredictible in the heat. I would have also told her that I was leaving if she could not get control over her "puppy." She needs to have her dog under control at all times and these behaviors, if not controled when a puppy, will just get worst in time. Even though you are justified in your fears, you have the right to be. Would your friend put up with the behavior if the dog was full grown, right? She should not put up with it in a puppy when there is company at the house. Dogs have to learn what is allowed and not allowed from them in ALL settings.
@ellie333 (21029)
16 May 08
Hi Kaysue4, The dog does go to training classes and I really feel that his behaviour was due to the heat but I was not going to risk my son being around him in that mood eh! I popped down yesterday while my son was at school and the dog after initial greeting just sat by my feet but I did have the conversation with her about any dog being unpredicatble and also about how my mothers face had to be rebuilt because a dog she had known 14 years turned in the heat. Thanks for supporting my decision to leave. Ellie :D
@kaysue4 (951)
• United States
16 May 08
Your welcome. You are given your child as a gift and you have to protect that child. Go with your gut feelings in keeping that child safe.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
15 May 08
No, I would have left too! Most of the time, when I mention my kids being scared of the dog, the owner puts the dog outside or some other room so nobody will be scared or get hurt! Dogs can smell fear.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Hi Olivemai, I know I did do the right thing in this situation. I am not frightened of dogs at all I have had many of my own in the past, used to foster, but on this occasion I felt uncomfortable so I took myself out of the situation. I think it was the heat and I always am cautious with dogs around children. Ellie:D
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
15 May 08
I can understand that!
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@littleowl (7157)
3 Jun 08
Hi Ellie-fortunatley my dogs have never done that in the heat or when my girl dog was on heat..I have also never heard of that happening before either but if it had happened and I was in your position yes I too would of left-hugs littleowl
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@ellie333 (21029)
3 Jun 08
Hi Littleowl, I too have had dogs in the past and when I had visitors would put them out but in this instance I felt uncomfortable so left. Thanks for agreeing that I did the right thing on this occasion. Ellie :D
• Philippines
19 May 08
Yeah, I would leave...
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@ellie333 (21029)
19 May 08
Thanks for confirming that I did the right thing. Ellie :D
@MsTickle (24994)
• Australia
18 May 08
I think you were right to leave. Nipping isn't playful, it's intimidating and I would have been rather fearful myself...for myself! With your experience it would have been a bit strange for you to have stayed. Why didn't the woman tie the dog up for gosh sakes? That dog could have been suffering from heat stress or anything like that...maybe it hadn't had enough to drink. It's so much better not to take chances.
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@ellie333 (21029)
19 May 08
Thanks MsTickle I know I made the right discussion for myself and my son. I have had dogs in the past but whenever I had visitors I would always put the pair of them out or in a different room. I really think this dog was acting up due to the heat and I wasn't gonna take the risk. Thanks for confirming that my desicion was the right one, appreciated. Ellie :D
@owlwings (40029)
• Cambridge, England
18 May 08
No, I don't think you were being paranoid at all. Your son wanted the dog to leave him alone and, regardless of whether the dog was dangerous or not, he was being annoying and his owner was not controlling him to take care of her guests' comfort. Dog owners have a responsibility to control their dogs so that they are not a nuisance to people. I think that your friend was being a little thoughtless (regardless of how nice she otherwise is) not to make sure that your son was not annoyed. Leaving because of that was not, of itself, an unfriendly act. You were simply taking care of you and your son's comfort. If your friend does take offence, that is her problem but I am sure that you can come to some agreement that the dog is shut up the next time you visit.
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@ellie333 (21029)
18 May 08
Thank you Owlwings for confirming that I did do the right thing. I have had dogs myself in the past and the pair of them I would put out if I had visitors arrive for the benefit of both really. She did in fact try to put the dog indoors but he jumped up and pushed door open again and it was at this moment that I decided to leave. I went round a couple of days later but on my own and the dog just laid at my feet the whole time. I really think he was agitated in the heat and I did explain to her the reason I left but in future, I don't see her often, I think I will just pop round without my son unless she will put dog out. Ellie :D
@lingli_78 (12844)
• Australia
16 May 08
well, i think i will leave as well if i start to get uncomfortable with the dog... especially if it has to do with my child... if i feel that my child feels threatened by the dog and the owner doesn't want to put it away, then i will be the one who leave for the safety sake of my child... so i think you are doing the right thing... you don't want your child to get mauled by the dog which is happening a lot lately especially to toddlers... take care and have a nice day...
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@ellie333 (21029)
16 May 08
Thank you for supporting my decision about leaving. Better to be safe than sorry eh! It was the heat I'm sure as I went round whilst my son was a t school yesterday and the dog just laid at my feet. It was much cooler yesterday but I will probably do this in future also. Ellie :D
@Hatley (164450)
• Garden Grove, California
16 May 08
rottweilers can be unpredictable so I do not blame you for leaving and no you were not paranoid. dogs c an misbehave in hot weather, and thats a known fact. We have had two pit bull attacks on people walking by their yard and one lady was savaged in the face and her little dog killed, and another lady was bitten all over and was in critical condition' in the hospital and this was all during a recent hot spell. dogs I imagine are like people,some people lose their tempers really easy during hot spells.. i believe in being prudent around dogs and I have had dogs as pets altho now I live in an apt where no pets are allowed. you did the smart thing.
@ellie333 (21029)
16 May 08
Thanks Hatley, yes I think it was the right thing to do at the time. Better to be safe than sorry eh! I am always cautious in the hot weather around dogs. When I had my own I would put them out in the garden if I had visitors with children just in case. You do certainly hear of more of these cases during the hot weather. Thanks for sharing. Ellie :D
@foxyfire33 (10009)
• United States
15 May 08
Your son is more important than your friend or her dog. You were not being at all paranoid. Dogs are unpredictable and puupies don't always know their own strength...what it may have thought was playful could have turned very dangerous for your son. Your son getting upset and wanting the dog to leave him alone should have been a sign to your friend that it was time to remove the dog from the situation. Since it is her house and her puppy she did have every right to not be concerned but that means that the only responsible thing you could do was to leave. If she invites you over again...especially if you know it will be hot, let her know that you are not comfortable with her puppy 'playing' with your son and suggest an alternative.
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@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Thanks for your support on this one foxyfire33. I went with my gut feeling and removed my son and myself from the situation. I did in fact visit her today whilst he was at school and had a chat. Dog was fine today just layed on my feet but in extreme heat they can be unpredictable and I felt uncomfortable so went with gut feeling really. better to be safe than sorry eh! I have had dogs myself in the past and as friendly as they were always removed them outside if I had visitors with children as Jason especially became a bit of a grump as he got older. Ellie :D
• United States
15 May 08
I would teach any dog I do have the proper behavior. Whenever a dog is in heat, I will put him in a cool area and get him some cold water to have. I would always have the pet checked out and receive shots. I would definitely have him spayed and neutered. I used to have a great German shepherd before, named ROSCOE. He has been sick lately. He was exposed to fleas. We used to give him asprin along with food and water. So that a dog I would get would behave greatly. Of course the dog would have great senses.
@ellie333 (21029)
15 May 08
Hi Jake, Thanks for responding. My friend does take him to training lessons and is really strict with him and usually after the intial excitement of seeing us he calms down and settles but this day he didn't so I chose to remove us from the situation. I have been round today and explained to her the reason why and how some dogs do behave differently in the heat. She was told by a vet not to have him done until he is two years old, he is only six months at the moment, as by doing young it keeps them at the puppy stage. I am pleased to here that you are strict with your dogs. Ellie :D