Liberalism is All About Hating People.

Ok, you say that conservatism is to blame too. But all your examples are liberalism. As far as Hurricane Katrina, did you know that there was a plan for evacuating the poor? They even had the neighborhoods that would need the most help identified. Why didn't they use it? Major Nagin CHOSE not to activate the protocols.

But there wouldn't be fraud to fix if there wasn't a failed liberal welfare state. New Orleans response failed for only 1 reason. There was no infrastructure in the area to handle it. The government of New Orleans was nothing but a false store front concealling a pit of vipers. Hurricane Katrina merely blew the facade open.

No my examples are not all liberalisms fault. Many of the measures that made the welfare system here such a disgrace are conservative attempts to curtail welfare fraud and in the end backfired and caused welfare stagnation. The welfare system here is a mesh of ideals that began with a liberal plan, got destroyed by liberal overspending in welfare, then demolished further by conservative overraction, and finally limping along by NDP (far left liberals) and Conservative measures. Over all everyone on all sides have contributed to the joke of a welfare system we have. It may not be the worst, and it is certainly better then no welfare system, but it is seriously flawed from the ground up. As for Katrina I did hear about the evacuation plan. The response to Katrina was a disgrace from start to finish, it is neither conservativism nor liberalism that are to blame, just plain and simple human failure.

Why should Conservatism accept the failed, anti progress, anti people ideals of liberalism? Can you think of anytime when Conservatism gave in to Liberalism and something good came of it?

Why should liberals take the blame for a war that has driven this country into massive debt, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, and has cost our country our reputation? I agree with cynddvs, we need to stop thinking "us" and them". We all are US citizens and we all need to learn how to compromise, or the state of this nation will continue to go downhill.

Yes, liberalism wants to stop the war. Liberalism doens't care how many Iraqis Hussien murdered. Liberalism doesn't care how many billions UN officials recieved in bribes from Hussein. Liberalism doesn't want Iraq to have a government elected by the people. Liberalism swept the torture of CNN reporters in Iraq under the rug. Liberalism wouldn't care in the least if there were millions murdered in Iraq if we pulled out. On the other hand, liberalism loves Castro, Chavez, Stalin and other national leaders who murder and openly enslave the people. liberalism loves Ahmadinejad who is killing US troops in Iraq as we speak. liberalism is about hate.

That is what conservatism teaches. liberalism teaches us that there is nothing we can do about it.

True, I see that the liars have pulled out the "The repubicans will starve the elderly" BS again.

I'd pay the taxes for a dozen new programs with the money that's currently going to the conservative-started Iraq occupation anyday, even if I personally didn't need them. Millions upon millions of dollars being virtually thrown out the window HOURLY thanks to "conservative" (not much conservation going on, so I doubt the accuracy of calling these people "conservative")...I don't think "liberals" are CAPABLE of being that wasteful. At least the programs do something for us here in the states themselves.

Also, drilling in Alaska would reduce the overall price of a barrel of oil by CENTS, while it rises by DOLLARS on a weekly, nearly daily basis. The environmental damage is not worth it--it's far more worth it to try and get ourselves off of 'the stuff' entirely. Drilling in Alaska isn't even good enough to be considered a band-aid solution.

Well, that makes you a human. :P I don't think ANYONE is going to say they are FOR wasteful spending. So, what's an example of wasteful spending that you see 'on the left?' Just curious.

It's ironic. When Conservatives say something stupid like, "9/ll was God's punishment for accepting homosexuality", they are almost always universally rejected by Conservatives. But when liberal icons say something equally stupid like, "9/11 was an inside job", they are celebrated by Liberalism. As far as Rush Limbaugh, I agree with him at times and disagree with him at times, but name one thing he said that promoted hatred for anyone. I've heard liberals say a lot of things about him, I've heard them take him out of context and I've heard them lie through their teeth about him. But I have yet to hear him spew hatred. On the other hand, the hatred thrown his way from the right is, well, par for the course of liberalism. Where in the Bible does Jesus advocate a communist, or even a socialist state? Where does He say, "when your government has done to the least of these, they have done unto me"? In fact, nowhere in the Bible does it take the responsibility we Chirstians have to help each other and put it on the government. That's another example of liberalism being about hate. Liberalism robs peter to pay paul... and wastes a lot of money doing it. What we should be doing is either donating our time and means to private charitable organizations or helping those in need directly. It is a shameful, lazy and uncaring society that demands the government help the needy so we don't have to. (in this part I'm talking liberalism in general. While there are many well known liberals who make a show of helping but really do nothing, there are millions of great people of liberal, moderate and conservative persuasions that do well to help those in need). Yes, there are morons on all sides. When we talk about corperate welfare, first let's separate it from incentives to either move to, or stay in an area. If a city wants to attract businesses to their area, there's nothing wrong with giving the company incentives to do so. If a company here in Sheboygan, WI can get a better deal in (say) Salt Lake City, UT, why shouldn't they consider it? What's the difference between that and a city or state offering incentives to individuals to come work and live in their area? Then there is true corporate welfare. That is governments bailing out a company that is on the rocks. I agree with you, why bail out a company that the market can't (or won't) support anymore. All that does is remove the incentive for those in charge of making decisions to make sound ones. Btw, Corporate Welfare may be the decision of both Republican and Democrat politicians, but it is not a Conservative action. Conservatism leaves the success or failure of a business to the market. It is liberalism that teaches that it's terrible to let people lose their jobs because a company goes out of business. Providing jobs is not the purpose of business, it is a by product of a successful business.

These are terms he uses to parody specific people, not whole groups. of people. I've been hearing this false accusation about him for 20 years now. Anyone who does listen to him has heard the explanations, anyone who doens't listen to him has heard other people explain these terms. That's one of the quickest and easiest ways to tell if someone is talking about what Rush has actually said, and what his detractors SAY he said.

Did you see the parody on SNL about Hillary Clinton and how she should win because her supporters are bigots? THAT'S parody. If you haven't, watch it on YouTube. Almost eerie in its accuracy. Rush doesn't parody anyone, although I agree that he himself may be the wildest parody of a Conservative I've ever seen. The Moral Majority? The Religious Right? The magical blue pill found under someone else's name in his pocket while on his way to the islands without a wife in tow? Yeah...gotta love it.

Yeah, I remember how Democrat NC was when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. I also remember seeing for myself what Liberal policies do to a city. Good on ya for standing for something!

Ok, let's come together. Where should we start, and how do we convince the right and the left to agree to become moderates? Sorry to break it to you, but you can't force members of Congress to deny their stances on opinions just to "get along". In fact, they aren't supposed to. what they ARE supposed to do is quit the politicing, pressuring and infighting. Debate the issue at hand for the appropriate amount of time, then vote on it... and let the chips fall where they may. Instead the party in power keeps issues stuck in committee or, once bills make it to the floor, they threaten, bicker argue, blackmail, bribe and anyting else until the majority party is confident they have the votes to make it go their way. this isn't diplomacy or legislating, this is thruggery and criminal.

Exactly! Liberalism isn't about fixing problems, it is about taking advantage of people with problems.

public school is a great propagator of the liberalistic mentality - in a very conniving manner (brain wash?) Absolute freedom of thought in politics, and morals... The unrestrained liberty of the press. Such are the radical principles of Liberalism. In the assumption of the absolute sovereignty of the individual, that is, his entire independence of God, we find the common source of all the others. To express them all in one term in the order of ideas, they are RATIONALISM or the doctrine of the absolute sovereignty of human reason. Here human reason is made the measure and sum of truth. Hence we have individual, social and political Rationalism, the corrupt fountain head of liberal principles: secular education repudiating any connection with religion, marriage sanctioned and legitimatized by the State alone, etc.; in one word, which synthesizes all, SECULARIZATION, which denies religion any active intervention in the concerns of public and of private life whether it orate or assassinate; whether it call itself Liberty or Government or the State or Humanity or Reason, or what not, its fundamental characteristic is an uncompromising opposition to the Church. Liberalism is a world complete in itself; it has its maxims, its fashions, its art, its literature, its diplomacy, its laws, its conspiracies, its ambuscades. (LIS) I believe the only freedoms that liberalism concerns itself is the "freedoms and rights" of wickedness.

Thanks for the sarcasm in your opening, it was fun and led with a light tone. I do appreciate that. "Do you think that liberals wake up every day, brush their teeth and think about how they will screw people over today? Heck no." That is why I didn't say "liberals" are all about hating people. I do know some liberals who do hate conservatives, but I don't lump all liberal people together with them. Liberalism tells people that they aren't good enough, aren't smart enough or that they just shouldn't have to make it without the government doing it for them. Liberalism turns everyone into victims so that it can be the hero and save the day. The problem is, Liberalism has very few success stories to back its claim. As far as the two party system, I agree. We have allowed the RNC and DNC to trash the U.S. Constitution to the point where it is impossible for Senators to represent their states and Representatives to be the voice of the people in their district. It is criminal, Unconstitutional and anti American.

To me there should be a lot of competition and "vs" between the ideologies. That keeps one ideology from silencing the others. I agree though, there should be more than just 2 represented. In fact, they way it's supposed to work is each Representative and Senator has equal say when it comes time to voting... but the DNC and RNC don't give a flying fig about the U.S. Constitution... they care only for their infantile, petty power.