Did i do something wrong???

@jessieBee (1046)
Trinidad And Tobago
July 5, 2008 2:37pm CST
I was at the mall yesterday and this lady had a kid with her about 10yr old. Now this kid was running all over the mall, she tried speaking to him, but he was not listening to her. he also ran up to me and was making faces. I told him to stop that and listen to his mother. Would you believe he cursed me. So i walked up to the lady and told her what her kid did and i called him indisciplined. Would you believe she started cursing me also, telling me that i don't have any children,nor do i have the right to be complaining on her son. She called me a stupid bit*h!!! And her child also started cursing back at me. Did i do something wrong? I approached her nicely and quietly. Everyone in the mall was watching, the guard came and told her to calm down. She continued hurling curse words at me like"mother f..ker". The guard escorted her off the mall premises. So was i a bad person? Did i say something wrong? Was she justified in her actions? Have you ever been in a similar situation? Do tell....
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@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
5 Jul 08
Wow! I'm sorry that happened to you. First of all, she is an ignorant person, and you're right, her child is undisciplined. He needs to learn to listen to his mother and respect others, because what he did was totally uncalled for. But that will never happen because the mother will never teach him that, unfortunatly. Second, you did make a bit of a mistake by confronting her. I see people like her all the time, and it does infuriate me, but the problem is, even when confronted, they will not see reason. They will attack you as if you are to blame, even though you may be 100% correct. No matter how you had approached her, you would have gotten the same reaction. When dealing with people like that, it truly is best to ignore them unless you are prepaired to be attacked.
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
5 Jul 08
I did not expect her to react so rudely. I must say she cought me off guard. But you are right she is an ignorant person, but sadly because of her ignorance he will never learn to respect others. And thank you for letting me know i was not wrong in the situation.
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• Turkey
5 Jul 08
Well, the mother's reaction certainly shows where the kids gets it from. No wonder he's so undisciplined. I don't think you did anything wrong. If she was a sane individual she would have been embarressed by her child's behavior and disciplined him accordingly. I think that she needed to know that people were getting upset by her sons reactions, not that she really seemed to care. Parents like this one was are really sad... Be next time though, while I agree with what you did, there are some really insane people in this world and some of them are not against causeing harm to others because of things like this. It's really sad but it's now the world that we live in...
• United States
6 Jul 08
I have to agree with MrsFairWells. If this mother had been normal, she would have been embarassed at her son's behavior and would have spoken to him about it. I also have to agree that it isn't safe in today's world to confront anyone - even kindly and gently - because you never know how they will react.
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
8 Jul 08
kenzie and MrsFair, i understand clearly where the both of you are coming from. There are insane people in the world, believe me i know from experience. I'm a teacher sometimes i deal with some mad parents, a mother once told me sometimes she feels like driving her kid to a field and leaving him there. He drives her crazy, never want to do his work or chores, he just plays games and hangs out with the wrong crowd. Sad situation...
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• Turkey
6 Jul 08
Exactly, it's just not safe to confront people like that anymore...
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
5 Jul 08
katsmeow and irishidid covered everything I was thinking. She and her child were both in the wrong and you had every right to be bothered by it. But people like that generally won't see that they are wrong and you probably weren't the right person to confront her about it. She shouldn't have cussed you out and I'm glad the security guard escorted her out but you probably would have been better off approaching the security guard so he could deal with it. Either way, you are not a bad person! You were just on the bad end of an unpleasant situation.
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
Thank you for your comment, i must say you have lifted my spirits. I guess it is just in my nature to try to help young people from going the wrong way. I'm a teacher and my students are not far from my age i teach teen, and I've never heard any of them cursing like that. I'm glad he escorted her out also because some of the people in the mall looked like they were ready to knock her brains out.
• Canada
6 Jul 08
Well it is a tough one....parents usually don't want to have their faults pointed out, and while I do not agree with how she reacted, with cussing you out etc. I do believe that her nerves were probably shot from chasing her kid through the mall etc. and you comming along was like the icing on the cake, the breaking point for her. I believe that yes, you were right in notifying her that her son swore filthy at you, but I cannot rightfully say that you were right in pointing out that her son was "undiciplined" as that is a judgement call on your part, and though it may have been a totally accurate judgement, it was perhaps not your place to make it. Even though she may agree that her kid is a brat, I am sure that no mom will like it when someone puts down their kid, wait, when they "percieve" that someone is putting down their kid, and though her reaction was over the top, and definately inappropriate, it is understood from the vantage point that she saw you as a threat, to be calling down her kid, and in the same breath critisizing her parenting, it can be understood. Definately not agree'd with, just understood. It mostly is not what your saying, so much as how you say it! Cheers!!
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
23 Jul 08
That is so true! We only see a small part of their life when we are out like that! It makes me want to keep my children at home and not take them anywhere until they are grown! People judge the parents as well if we do discipline them in public. It is irritating either way!
• India
5 Jul 08
hai jessie... from this i can figure out your nature... you are a caring and socially mingling person... you like to head up in some situations it seems... any way from my opinion you done absolutely right when we look in the context of goodness and honesty...BUT ... after showing your honesty and goodness to this world what did u got as your reward.... its quiet pitty that people dont want to accept the truth and there mistakes as they feel like they dont do mistakes and are perfect... so remember never head up yourself in situations like this until it really affects you ... from my opinion even if it affects you try to your maximum to stay away in creating such situations from your part... you are a very good person ...but the world is not that good...
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
Yes i agree the world is not perfect, but it is what we make it, thank you for your comment.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Jul 08
oh JessieBee never call a kid undisciplined to his mom, as she will fight like a tiger, but then a gain I think I would have said the same thing. he evidently did not listen to his mom and he was making an idiot of himself so what were you supposed to do, short of grabbing him a nd blisterin his behind? lol. No you were not a bad person, but I would have said to her your son is misbehaving towards me, any way she would not have been happy either way. a poor parenting job.
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
6 Jul 08
By the mother's actions, we know why the child acts the way he does. I am not sure I would have approached her, but I am not good at confronting people.
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
22 Jul 08
there is no doubt that the child gets it form his mother,thank you for your comment...
• United States
5 Jul 08
Well, obviously, the boy does listen to his mother, and has picked up all her rudness and cursing. He see his mom curse at a complete stranger in public (I'm betting this incident wasn't a first), and he even gets encouraged to do the same at you, so no surprise he is that way. Parents teach by example, so I hope she isn't at all surprised that her kid turns into a disrespectful delinquent. I'm sure it will never occur to her that his bad behavior is her fault and a direct result of her inability to behave herself in public. YOu did nothing wrong.
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
Thank you for letting me know i did nothing wrong. You are right however that the boy may grow up to become a delinquent. In the long run she will have no one to blame but herself. And now that you brought it up, i too don't think that i may have been the first person she exploded on in public.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Jul 08
If he cursed you and his mother was there, she was allowing him to do it. You have to be careful, just tell him not to swear and tell him that he might hurt himself and his mother will be upset if he gets himself hurt. That way if he does bump into something like a table, well his mother warned him and you warned him, everyone heard, and it is his fault. But if you tell his mother that he is undisciplined, his mother thinks you are encroaching in her territory instead of affirming what she told him.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
6 Jul 08
It seems that "like mother, like son!" is the motto here. It happens here too, some people you cannot even look at and they have to say something to you! Some people are out looking for a fight! What a sad way to live!
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
22 Jul 08
yes i agree, like mother like son, it's a shame to see what our world is coming too. thank you for your comment..
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
5 Jul 08
It wasn't your place to tell her how to be a parent or to tell the kid what to do. Even so, you didn't deserve to be cussed out.
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@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
6 Jul 08
see.... that's where I disagree. It takes a village to raise a child. In today's society... now more than ever before. When I was growing up (yes I know times have changed, but I am only 36) everybody knew you and your parents. They could come up to you and tell you to stop whatever bad thing it was that you were doing. And you would. Then, you knew you were in trouble because that person knew your parents and would let them know what you did when they weren't looking. There were consequences for that action. The next time you were out away from your parents, you would behave, because you knew SOMEONE was watching. Today.. the power has gone to the children. Parents don't give a damn about where their children are or what they are doing as long as that child is out of the parents hair. If they DO care they can't discipline their children for fear of having charges brought against them, teachers can't discipline because corporal punishment has been taken out of the schools. Wouldn't you want to know if your child was doing something wrong so you could address it? I do understand that is has become impossible for 1 parent to stay home and raise the children properly. I also understand that even though parents do everything in their power to raise the child properly.. sometimes it doesn't matter.. the child still might have unaddressed issues and grow up to do bad things. But, that is another discussion.
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@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
6 Jul 08
...and the reaction that Jessie got is EXACTLY why people are so afraid to be the village. Not I my friend... I will always say something to a child who is acting inappropriately
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@fluffysue (1482)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Dizzblnd, I am about your age, and I remember things being like that as well. Parents and other adults were to be respected, and if an adult told you to behave, you behaved! It didn't matter if it was a parent, a teacher, or someone you were annoying at the mall! Though most parents would not even have let their children behave that way.
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@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
6 Jul 08
It is very likely that this woman was already stressed out from her son's behavior. She was trying to discipline him and really did not need your involment in that matter. Yes the child was badly behaved and rude, however the mother was probably at the end of her nerve rope, and you probably pushed her off of the end of it. Also most people do not like it or appreciate it when someone else disciplines their children, especially when they are trying to do it their selves. Unless someone's child is in immediate danger, I don't say anything to people, as the response you get back is probably not going to be a good one. If you want to tell the child to stop making faces at you personally that is fine, but approaching an already stressed out mom, is kind of asking for trouble.
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• United States
6 Jul 08
If someone called me an MF, we would have had a big problem on our hands. Why do you think you're the bad person? Because she called you an explatative, she was actually calling her self that, she just didn't realize it. I hate unrully kids, unless I know why they are that way, but to think you did something wrong. If I had been there I would have stood up and gave you a standing ovation!
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
Well i thought so because of her reaction and then my feeling sort of changed because people in the mall show mixed reactions. Some wanted to knock some sense into her, while a few others saw her as the victim without knowing fully what had taken place. But I'm glad to know if you were there, you would have stood by me on the issue. Thank you I'm feeling much better.
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@Emma30587 (402)
6 Jul 08
No you did nothing wrong. Its just another woman not bringing her child up right and acussing everyone else for his bad behaviour. You did the right thing. If it was my child and someone came up to me saying he/she was misbehaving, I would appolgise and tell him/her off. I would also be extremely embarrased.
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
22 Jul 08
thank you for letting me know i did the right thing.
@smallT (376)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Some smart idiot came up with the rule not to discipline our children anymore and look at the society that its creating. If the mother was never taught how to behave in public how can she teach her child how to behave in public? I am seeing this more and more. Discipline is not abusive, abuse is abusive. I'm sorry that this happened to you.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Discipline is not abusive, abuse is abusive. and lack of discipline is also abusive. Amen to your whole response!!
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
You are so right. They passed a rule for teacher not to hit children and look where that has gotten us. I teach and we still beat kids for the law of the country has not been changed as yet. But i would tell you that kids started to show there true colors when this so call rule came out. They are doing far more worst things now...
@GreenMoo (11834)
6 Jul 08
I don't think you did anything wrong at all JessieBee. After all, you didn't hurt the child or cause any sort of scene yourself. It's easy to see where the child got his bad behaviour from, as kids learn by example and the mother is obviously lacking in any discipline or manners herself. Sadly, if everyone ignored people like this and allowed them to carry on their unsociable behaviour unchecked then they will just get worse and more prevalent. But please do be careful when approaching people like this. It doesn't do to be caught unprepared when someone is as unsociable and unpleasant as this, and I think you were lucky to be in such a publc place with a security guard so willing to step in and help out. This is a really sad world we live in.
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@GreenMoo (11834)
10 Jul 08
Good for you JessieBee. I'd hate to think that you'd stop doing the right things because of a bad experience with one idiot. One nice thing about living where I do is that most people feel comfortable to challenge your child if they're acting inappropriatly. I have no problem whatsoever with someone telling my child that what he's doing is a bother if I'm not there myself to do it. Sometimes it sinks in better from a stranger too!
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
10 Jul 08
GreenMoo, thank you once again, you are one of those people that see things clearly. And no i will not stop doing or being how I'm because of one incident.
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
Thank you for your comment finally someone who is making sense. Because for some reason others are making excuses for her uncalled behavior. But i will be careful but i am a teacher and it is in my nature to help kids and their parents who have problems with them. And i agree it is a sad world..
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• South Africa
5 Jul 08
Well, I suppose at least you don't have to wonder where the child learned the bad manners from. Parents need to set a good example for young children because their example will be followed. Approaching the mother about it is a bit of a sketchy area because there is no definate right or wrong way to raise a child and anyone would get offended by being told that they are doing it wrong. However, if the child is not being punished for inconveniencing strangers, then it is a problem that needs to be dealt with. I don't think that you were in the wrong but her response was not justified.
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• South Africa
9 Jul 08
You may not have been trying to tell her how she should be raising her son, but that is how she would have interpreted it.
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
your right, human interpretation is a hell of a thing isn't it... Thank you for your comment.
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jul 08
Thank you for agreeing with me, but i never went about in anyway telling her how to raise her son. exactly what i posted is what i said. But i too learned that day where he got that rude mouth from, when the mother started to respond in that manner.
@bmorehouse1 (1028)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I admire you for approaching the woman (I won't call her a lady) and telling her what her child did. If a child gets by with that what does that teach them for heavens sake? I can just imagine that sometime down the road that child will be in much bigger trouble simply because the parent doesn't have enough sense to discipline him now. Kudos to you!
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
22 Jul 08
well said, thank you for your comment.and thank for agreeing with me.
@k9krazy (15)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I experienced a similar situation a couple of years ago when I had taken my kids to a playground. Another, older boy threatened another child in front of me, and I told him that his behavior was not acceptable. When he began to argue with me I went over to his mother and told her what I had witnessed (I had been playing with the kids before the bully came over, so I knew that none of the other children had done anything to instigate the threat). Though she didn't go off on me, she did say that perhaps the other child deserved it! Unbelievable! I agree, it takes a village...and ideally, sane parents who want their children to become decent adults.
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• United States
7 Jul 08
So, needless to say, I don't think that you did anything wrong. Congrats for being assertive enough to speak up. Just because people don't want to hear it, doesn't mean that it's not the truth.
@akrockz (306)
• India
9 Jul 08
no not at all... you are right...
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@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
10 Jul 08
Thank you for agreeing with me