So now I'm the bad guy
By foxyfire33
@foxyfire33 (10005)
United States
July 17, 2008 1:16pm CST
Yep, I dared post about someone cheating. I didn't name names and stayed as vague about it as I could. I did agree to PM people on my friends list with the cheater's name. All but one of the responses I've gotten so far were in agreement with me...but my star still dropped a full point overnight.
So what is it about this system that punishes the good users and lets the cheaters get away with it? How is that fair?
No, I'm not mad or ranting. I don't need to be told to calm down. I'm just pointing out the unfairness of it all. I half wondered if my post about the cheater would cause trouble but I did it anyway because it was the right thing to do.
Are you satisfied with doing the right thing even if it means you'll have to make a sacrifice? Or would you rather just play it safe?
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31 responses
@Afallingrock (289)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Well playing it safe does seem like the natural human response, you know saving your own skin. But I beleive in some form of justice in the world and on Mylot if you can help enforce it then you should.
But at far as bringing back old topics go, I'm not against it. It gives people the chance to post there who weren't there when it was created. I'm not saying I do it and I'm not saying I'm for it, but I won't report it.
Lol were you even talking about the thing I was blabbering on about?
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
LOL...I have no clue what you're talking about! But I do agree there's nothing wrong with bring back old discussions. I don't think a person should copy/paste an old discussion and restart it as their own but there are other ways to bring it back.
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@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
17 Jul 08
One way to bring back one of your old discussions is to go in to a response, and leave a comment. It will rotate the discussion up toward the top of the list. If you do that each time responses die down, it could potentially live forever.
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@Afallingrock (289)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Lol well I had a feeling you weren't talking about that.
Oh and I rated you positive so I can help you reach 100/100. I have never seen one but I'd like to.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
17 Jul 08
hi foxyfire I let mylot know about this one cheater who had 8different accounts in his name and was cheating the rest
of us, and if I upset someone or teed off someone thats
too bad because this person had bragged about breaking the
rules and even said he did it just to see if he could. That
was so wrong I had to say something. as for your star dropping a point that I think is just a normal thing. I would not worry about it, now if your star had gone from 10 to an 8 overnight
you would know someone was teed off at you.some troll.
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@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
17 Jul 08
There was a time when I would have gone on a campaign to find and report the violating discussions. I would have been one hunting him down, but I just do not have the energy to do that. I would rather respond to my friends, and find lots of things to rate +. I do rate everything I read. Even when I do not necessarily respond to it.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Oh yeah, the earnings discussions really bugged me. I type out everything I post and try to follow the rules, I've been here for a year and a half, I have a higher star yet he claims to be making twice as much as me. I'm not here for the money but that still bugged me.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Yeah, one point overnight isn't a huge deal. I'm just wondering if it really will be a one time thing or if I'm heading toward a steady decline. I'll be fine either way, it's not worth getting worked up over. We have to do the right thing here even if some don't agree.
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@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I quit worrying about my star a long time ago. It hurt when it first dropped, but not I do not really care. I think you did your discussion well. From what I have observed, others do not like him either. I am not hunting that user down, if he posts to anything I am in and I see it, I will evaluate how I feel at that time. In the past some of my friends and I told someone off, in a nice way, about his posts and he has turned into a good user, and interesting. I will do the right thing as it seems at the time.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I did not hunt him down either. I started the discussion and reported only a few that were a violation. I rated those with a negative but did not even go near his other posts. I'm sure the few negatives I gave him did not affect his star at considering his post count. Once he admitted to me that he didn't know he was wrong, I left him alone completely. If he posts something good I will still give him positives.
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@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I am glad you did the right thing. Cheaters should not be ignored. I used the report function last night. Interesting enough, I got a new friend request in my box today.
It is important to always do the right thing when you can unless it puts you in immediate danger.
PS. I see your beautiful blue star has returned!
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Oh I didn't mean a whole star point! I was at 97/100 right up until I logged out finally last night. When I cam back on today it was a 96/100. I'm glad I did it too...and I also got some new friends out of it.
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@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I don't like to cause trouble, so I guess you could say I play it safe....I had 100/100 for awhile and then it was taken away...There will always be those that have to ruin it for others....
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
19 Jul 08
i am beyond lost on all of this.. i know i was missing for a day so i must have missed this whole thing and from what i am piecing together none of it makes sense 
i put an add for you in since i couldnt pm you to find out what the heck all of this is about.. i wanna make sure what ever happened i dont do so i dont get into trouble.. all i hear is about pasting and so i dunno 
i just keep hearing that whatever it was the (who ever that is) didnt know better so im scared i may make a mistake on here and im still realitively new so... any help on me understanding this would be greatly appreciated but if you are sick of talking about the subject i understand..
i put an add for you in since i couldnt pm you to find out what the heck all of this is about.. i wanna make sure what ever happened i dont do so i dont get into trouble.. all i hear is about pasting and so i dunno i just keep hearing that whatever it was the (who ever that is) didnt know better so im scared i may make a mistake on here and im still realitively new so... any help on me understanding this would be greatly appreciated but if you are sick of talking about the subject i understand.. 4 people like this
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
19 Jul 08
Saying "I didn't know any better." is a weak excuse though when something is clearly in the guidelines. Plus I didn't name him in the discussion, my discussion was not solely focussed on him...I used him as one example of recent cheating. I'm down to a 9 star already...and all because essentially I was telling people to stop cheating and read the rules. Also he has a nasty message on his profile blaming me for him getting banned.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
17 Jul 08
All I will say is that I agree with you it seems that it is not worth reporting People for cheating anymore as it is just causing trouble all around I think it is time that Mylot got a couple of Admins that check Discussions and get them deleted if they are against the rules
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
What they need is a staff of "moderators". People who are here as users around the clock or at least close to it to monitor things...either trusted mylotters or people they hire to do it.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I have written a post about the same thing. There should be room for controversy... discussion... opinions on myLot instead everyone talks about ice cream and photographs because that is "safe".
And how is it that it takes years to get to move up but just one day to move down... I think that is so wrong.
The stars don't give us any extra $$$ right? So why even worry about it? I'd love to see blue beside my name but that is just pride that is all. Play it safe. NEVER! Heh.
Thanks
Zelo
@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
The problem with 'being so close' is that I have been at 95 for over a year! Same exact number. I dropped to 94 after a controversial post I made a couple weeks ago and the next day right back up to 95... it is very frustrating... and if myLot uses 95.x (hence why some 95s are blue and some are red then shouldn't they show the whole score... allow me to see the whole movement if indeed there is any?)
Anyways I am not giving up~!
Thanks
Zelo
Thanks
Zelo2 people like this
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Jul 08
You are really close to blue! I like your attitude so I think you'll make it there. I know I don't do to many edgy discussions, mine are usually all family related...but I think we all should be able to say what we want when we want. I don't get how the star works either. It took me a year to go from 96 to 98...then I dropped to 97 two days later and back to 96 last night.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Your star is back to ten, so someone caught on to the fact that someone had given you some negative without proper reason?
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My star has hovered around nine sense I started MyLotting. I wonder why.
@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
18 Jul 08
No worries. I don't pay mind to ranks cuz they can wobble with the posting of a controversial discussion.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I never lost my 10, I just dropped within it...I guess I didn't really word that right lol!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I don't know if you're referring to the same cheater or not..another person here pointed out that there is a MyLotter that has at least six different accounts here and we've been busy reporting him like crazy...I don't even know if the cheating MyLotter has been banned yet..but yikes...to have six different accounts?? Definitely wrong!
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
No it was different one. Mine and that are are both still here although mine said after the fact that he didn't know he was doing anything wrong. I can accept that and have left him alone. I completely missed the other one somehow and I only know who it is now because he also responded to my cheater discussion and apologized.
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@meggan79 (436)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I was going to bite my tounge..but not much for one doing that (especially when I am writing)...but I keep remember that old saying and it seems to fit..."birds of a feather flock together"...i love old sayins because they usually stand the test of time...but that is a whole different discussion.
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@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
I think maybe you knew there would be repercussions and you went and did it anyway. Surely you anticipated some reactions but just did not anticipate a lot of negative ones. Now that you know what the repercussions are, would you still do it again? I am just asking a hypothetical question and is in no way a dare or a challenge. I cannot say what I would do.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Of course I knew some would get mad..that's why I have the "oh, well" attitude. I did the right thing, I just think it's stupid that those of us who do the right thing have to take the fall and those who do wrong get to sit back and enjoy it all. Of course I'd do it again. I don't mind going down for a good cause...it just highlights the fallicies of the rating system.
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@stagewhisper (901)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I think it's ridiculous that someone would be so petty as to play with your star rating. I mean, was that all they could think of to do? I personally don't give a darn if anyone decides to rate me down, but it's still kind of sad someone did that.
I think that you did well on mentioning a cheater, and I think it's silly that people rated you down for posting a discussion about it (I saw it, but didn't reply).
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
It just seems like to big of a coincidence that I openly reported a cheater and then was down a point a few hours later. I know it's only one point...but still. I don't set out to offend people or do anything to get deleted and this is what I get for it.
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@dianocuz (115)
• United States
18 Jul 08
It isn't you my friend, it is the system. It is about cliques. If you are in, you can do almost anything and get away with it. If yo are not, you are scrutinized for every littly thing. I see it almost everywhere, jobs, churches, even families. The stuff that went on with the Priest molesting little boys was a prime case. So much for good triumping over evil. I am glad t see that someone is wlling to do the right thing, regardless of the consequences. LUCK!
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
18 Jul 08
[b]Yeah,doing the right thing doesn't always come out as good. Sometimes it
it can be overlooked by others. You have to be prepared by the outcome.
In your case you are right in posting about cheating. As expected they
would react. That's the way it always work. Foxy, don't worry were here for you.[/b]
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@steve9737 (918)
• Colombia
18 Jul 08
I am not sure but I think there is a rule about not posting discussion about other user of mylot, maybe you should to contact mylot and say them your problem, I am sure that I saw that rule on the guidelines, maybe you would to give it a look.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Ok, I know what the rules are and I know my discussion was within those guidelines. I did report the cheater to mylot....and that's why I'm dropping now.
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@banadux (630)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I don't know that I would personally start a discussion about a person, but the topic in general was interesting. You should definitely use the ! to report the posts if you think the person is cheating. I've heard that the star ratings don't mean anything and hopefully that is true because I voice my opinion even if it isn't popular.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Jul 08
See the thing is I didn't name names and was only vague on the details...and the 'question' of the discussion was not about a specific cheater even though that is the direction the discuission took to some degree. I did use the ! to report him before I even made the discussion. Stars are not meaningless, it's just that the system is flawed so they aren't always accurate.
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@meggan79 (436)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I think you did a great thing...and I PM'd you my opinion on that. If everyone choose not to do the right thing because of the bad things that would happen to them, nothing good would ever get done. If you don't stand for what you think is right, then your a "cookie cutter" person and those people are just plain boring.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Thank you meggan...I just received your PM. I am glad I did what I did. There is no shame in doing the right thing. I have been here long enough to know the usual outcomes of these situations so i knew going in what I was risking...but it was worth it.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Again foxy, I absolutely as I told you yesterday agree with what
you did and don't think you should be punished. I don't think
anyone here should have to pay the price for someone else
doing the wrong thing. I actually posted a discussion about this myself
this morning. I seem to have lost 2 points on comments when I posted
I went from 92 to 90 with no explanation (see my discussion). So I
don't understand what's going on here either. If you want to talk
pm me.
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@soooobored (1184)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I'm a crusader at heart, I'll always do the right thing (as I see it), even if it puts me in jeopardy. As long as the issue is important to me.
Cheaters, people taking advantage of others, etc. ALWAYS get me, so I might have done the same thing you did. Don't feel bad, you are still a "10" to me! :-)
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